yes, anon. very much so - on every level.

i enjoy the discussion - but i do find that arguing with you is not different from arguing with a 16 year old, except that you are decidedly more articulate than most.

the whole "i can't tell you what to do" ideaology is childish. if you're ok with someone sitting at home watching virtual depictions of infant abuse - and the inevitable danger associated with that kind of behavior isn't compelling to you -

then we have no common ground here.

but, having acknowledged that, this is just for fun:

I never said you used Hitler as an example, but as an analogy, believe it or not I know the difference.

Whilhelm, I can't help but smirk to myself when people draw upon Hitler as an example to prove their point about something.

maybe i misread your two statements here. or maybe you're confused. my bet's on the latter.

You just have to go for the worst, the holocaust, to create that mental link of negativity.

if i would have known this would be such a stumbling block, i would have used something else. like, how about the inquisition? or the salem witch hunts?

truth is nazi, germany is a perfect illustration of how the media (that is, organized communication) can be used to control behavior - which was the subject of my original proposition. better than any other i can think of, but i'm no historian.

we all know that people are a combination of their genes and their upbringing/culture.

i would think so. if we agree on this point, and i also understand you to be opposed to any regulations or impositions that would influence that culture -

i can only conclude that you don't care if the culture that "creates" us is characterized by negative influence.

saying that humanity has always been ridden with rape, murder, and oppression is a cop-out, anon.

the same responsibility you (rightly) lay at the feet of parents also lies at your own feet. we share the responsibilit to, if i can borrow your words - teach our children our code of morality.

advocating for porn that depicts things that are illegal - while advocating for the prosecution of those crimes is an amazing hypocrisy.

not surprising for me, though. i find that hypocrisy is at the heart of anyone's interest in/consumption of porn. i have yet to meet a porn user who wants his/her daughter to do porn.

similarly, let me cry out against the evil of child molestation, demand the swift administration of justice for those who perpetrate sex crimes...

but defend anyone's right to use porn that depicts those crimes.

why not hand me a box of twinkies while i'm on the treadmill & b*tch at me about my weight.

convoluted, at best.

we seem to agree that people are influenced by culture to do bad things. you just don't think we should do anything about it.

that's fine, anon. you've adopted the "don't bother me & i won't bother you" attitude. unfortunately, the guys who get off on watching infants & toddlers being raped don't operate that way.

fortunately, though, there were folks in the history of my country who believed a little differently - otherwise i'd be speaking german today.

I believe in personal freedom to the highest level - to the point of a structured anarchic state (slight oxymoron).

silly. there's no such thing as a slight oxymoron. it is or isn't. structured anarchy is NOT anarchy. you're just revealing more of the hypocrisy. you want anarchy to allow you to move the way you want to - and structure to make sure nobdy moves in a way that hurts you.

as i've told you before - people have sought this for centuries. people like to create their own rules & then call them "reality."

What you are saying is that you favour the christian conditioning over todays sensationalising conditioning, and that is an entirely subjective moral opinion.

when did i bring christianity into this. if you mean to say that i favor a world in which we don't allow people to film rape & glorify it as a masturbatory tool...

then i guess you're right.

did you mean that?