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Originally Posted by SinisterUrge
Without a maidenhead (aka. hymen) you're not a maiden = Not a virgin. Don't listen to people who tell you 'rape doesn't count' or 'sex with toys doesn't count'. Its really simple, if you have an intact hymen, you're a virgin. If your hymen is broken, even from something non-sexual, you are not a virgin.
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You had to know you were going to catch heck for that statement

When does a man lose his virginity? Or.. wait.. men were never virgins because they don't have an intact hymen... or even a hymen at all.
To say 'you are not a vigin' if x and y and z, while just stating your opinion (not fact by any means) on the definition.. it comes across as demeaning and insensitive.
I lost my hymen way before puberty, by a finger of an abuser. I had no concept of virginity or what that meant. When I had sex years later (with a total jerk that used me but thats neither here nor there, I am just trying to say that I am not picking and chosing the best sexual experience to say yes, that was my first time), it was him I gave my virginity to. The first man I chose to have sex with.
Most men, are evolved enough to realize that virginity status is irrelevent, and a presense of a hymen, even more so irrelevent.