You can say all you want, but I refuse to believe that...yet. It wasn't typical, nothing about it was typical. Guys you have a "fling/affair" with don't come and clean your bathroom and spend time with your kids! A typical affair doesn't bring you to meet his extended family in another state and come over for holidays! A typical affair is just about sex and it was never just about sex. I will never just disapear out of his life for good no matter how much his family wants that. We have a child together and he WILL pay for her and spend time with her, he isn't the type of person to abandon his kids, maybe temporarily out of fear or confusion, but not permanently! There is no way anyone can convince me right now that he will actually repair his marriage and things will go back to "normal" for them without me! Even if they do stay together, I don't believe he can stay away from us for long. He loves us too much and we have too much fun being together. He has a lot of going on at his house other than this because of his kids/grandkids and other stuff so things were tough before the secret came out. I certainly don't blame him for being caught up in all of the chaos. I do worry about it taking too long, especially with our and their anniversary coming up, but she must be making his life a living and why would he put up with that and not come back to me? She doesn't lilke being with him, she just likes it cause it is safe and comfortable, he thinks the same thing. He doesn't want to make anybody mad or upset. Ironically it is making all of us crazy and nothing is getting solved right now. Hopefully soon he will call and I can see him and get a face to face answer on where I stand. I will not believe what his kids/wife says because they are just trying to control him right now and he is going along with it until they calm down so he doesn't rock the boat even more. If for some strange reason I am wrong, then I will get a face to face answer first because I will not walk away without it, especially if they plan on seeing my daughter! Call me overly optimistic, crazy, or plain old stupid, but this isn't just denial talking, it is coming straight from my heart and my sister totally agrees. She knows him and knows the situation and she thinks it will just take time for things to settle back down. I have had a horrible day and if I think bad things I will not last. I need to at least think a few happy thoughts since that is the only thing keeping me going. I know you think you have seen it all, but maybe you haven't. Maybe this is different. I sure hope it is, if not I will be crushed.