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    Quote Originally Posted by baja View Post
    CW, all I can add is that a woman must pay close attention without letting her heart override her brain. Men who are interested more in the woman than the person can be detected rather quickly as long as judgment isn't clouded.

    Look for what they reward -- First is to lose the mentality as if men are out to get you! Second is that he will naturally put you off if you sense he is into you just for sex. Im sure every women here has got the uneasy feeling from a mans advances.
    There can be exceptions, where the physical can lead to an expansion of the relationship into the other two areas but as long as a relationship is grounded in only one, then the days are numbered.

    Baja, why do i feel i've crossed paths with you? Another Forum perhaps...

    Your advise is always deep.. Thought out and as if you have 100 female girlfriends who confide in you, maybe you do.
    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

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    Ive made women hate me and still get there number ie using jealousy as an emotional trigger
    For those who don't know LLL, a comment like above, sound egotistical but he has validation in what he says but I can assure you 12 months of his threads,and our communication........... he always treats a woman with upmost respect somehow at the same time, it's his up-most belief. It's important, so he has taken the thread in reverse how to pick up a woman but hasn't followed through with how he would treat her and not use. Etc..

    Ahh another thread or blog I reckon,

    Thanks again all.

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    It doesn't happen over night
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    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    For those who don't know LLL, a comment like above, sound egotistical but he has validation in what he says but I can assure you 12 months of his threads,and our communication........... he always treats a woman with upmost respect somehow at the same time, it's his up-most belief. It's important, so he has taken the thread in reverse how to pick up a woman but hasn't followed through with how he would treat her and not use. Etc..

    Ahh another thread or blog I reckon,

    Thanks again all.

    CW
    Thanks kitten, Its true I LOVE WOMEN, there heart, there soul, even the idea of a women, even when they go crazy haha


    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    These, young friends, sure their hormones are jumping around and they love sex, but they question me, "why can't I find someone who wants me?".. In-other-words, they give it up and then get dumped.

    So, sure, we can say, keep your legs closed longer.
    She can keep her legs closed, open, stand on one leg, or do a handstand none of it will help! haha

    There is a chronological order of courtship.

    Attraction--->Comfort--->Connection--->Seduction--->Foreplay--->SEX

    HER PROBLEM IS!!! She is skipping the connection part, and She is using sex as a way to build that connection. Which will never work!

    You cant use one stage to fix the other. Unless there is a sufficient amount already there. She doesn't need to stop sleeping with men, what she has to do is make the man invest his time and emotion on her before having sex. She does this by being an interesting girl making the guy QUALIFY himself to her!

    "give me 3 things that seperates you from all the other men in here"
    "What was the most exciting thing ever happen to yourself"
    What was the worst thing that ever happen to you"

    Make him talk about emotional experiences. Like I said before her body will make a man interested in her it wont make him stick around.

    She cant use her body to make a man stick around anymore a women can use her mind to make a man thinks she is sexy.

    THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

    Sex is a way to expand on an existing emotional bond. ITS NOT A WAY TO CREATE IT. Hence, why one night stands exist.

    Hope this helps
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    For those who don't know LLL, a comment like above, sound egotistical but he has validation in what he says but I can assure you 12 months of his threads,and our communication........... he always treats a woman with upmost respect somehow at the same time, it's his up-most belief. It's important, so he has taken the thread in reverse how to pick up a woman
    Im very ego-centric. haha But I never use it to hurt others! Neither do I think Im better then others. I just love me to the core. Whatever that means. Its 100% acceptance.

    As far as how I treat women. I tease then please. Im romantic when it needs to be and Im a cowboy when she thinks Im a romantic.

    Which is why Im such a bad-mamma-jamma

    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    but hasn't followed through with how he would treat her and not use. Etc..

    Ahh another thread or blog I reckon,

    Thanks again all.

    CW
    Was that sufficient?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThereYouAre View Post
    I'm just curious as to what "persuasion" I've been pegged to.
    That's the thing about Tired Posting... sometimes you don't use the most appropriate word.

    Please keep in mind that what I'm about to say is no means intended to be derogatory; just the perception I have based off of your posts. Age difference noted.

    LLL would say your methods are that of an "AFC" (average frustrated chump). I prefer to say "Nice Guy" as it takes the negative connotation out of it. Wine & Dine, and Romance & Chivalry seem to be your thing. And that's fine. Nothing wrong with Chivalry. I still open doors . You also seem to believe that Man should not approach Woman purely for sexual reasons. That's why I have you pegged as the "Nice Guy."

    And that is where I disagree. Sex can be a very beautiful thing. As long as nobody is hurt in this process, then I don't see what the problem is. I also don't see why a date has to be Le Restaurant and Romantic Comedy where I pay for it all. Why not Shots and Billiards and we split the check or pay for our own?

    There are many ways to treat a woman like a lady without doing it like our parents did it.

    Quote Originally Posted by CW
    I am talking about 20 - 28 year old "friends" girlfriends not guys, I do appreciate and understand that I acutally have alot of male guys trying to pick this cougar up... lol... as well.
    You're an Aussie. That makes you a kangaroo. The younger ones are wallabies.

    Spat coffee, giggled like a teenager, then read it again!!!!!!!!!
    I speak the truth.

    That's actually a great key right there, okay hold on a second I was married for 7 and a half.. pfttt. And, a workaholic....

    And, I don't LIKE HARRY POTTER.!
    That's it! You and I are SOOOOO breaking up! You can keep the furry handcuffs and the DVDs, but I want my CDs and my shirts back!

    Everything else you said, I'm ready, you?
    But of course.

    Point being, i actually did read that twice, and see, that's a case of getting sucked in, except i am 34 lol,
    34? Really? You just got downgraded from Kangaroo status to Wallaby. =)

    so i am mature enough to read it as it's worth right to the end, and in that light? Yep.. We would, whoever we were, cause that is what maturity is about. Younger, that is a line and that would make her surcum... in 1st date... which is what I am trying to teach her, them, "NOT TO", lol.
    Then give them my Skype information. I'll be happy to answer any and all questions your gal pals have. It's different for every woman and I tailor my services to the individual because, face it, one size does not fit all.

    Quote Originally Posted by L Cubed
    She can keep her legs closed, open, stand on one leg, or do a handstand none of it will help! haha
    Unless you drug her, it's her choice to keep her legs closed. What you just said right there is that a woman has no choice or control over her sex life. Watch what you say.

    There is a chronological order of courtship.
    Attraction--->Comfort--->Connection--->Seduction--->Foreplay--->SEX
    Who says courtship is linear? That model you put up can make sense, but why not:

    Hello ----> Hotel ----> Good Morning

    After all, your model explains one of many processes out there that can lead to sex. It makes sense, though. Don't get me wrong. But in the time that you take building that sequence, I've already done that, and then some!, and have gone back for more.

    HER PROBLEM IS!!! She is skipping the connection part, and She is using sex as a way to build that connection. Which will never work!
    But aren't guys doing the same effin' thing? "If I can get her to sleep with me then I can make her my girlfriend." It's the same on the other side as well.

    You cant use one stage to fix the other. Unless there is a sufficient amount already there.
    Care to expand on that one?

    She doesn't need to stop sleeping with men, what she has to do is make the man invest his time and emotion on her before having sex. She does this by being an interesting girl making the guy QUALIFY himself to her!
    QFT

    Sex is a way to expand on an existing emotional bond. ITS NOT A WAY TO CREATE IT. Hence, why one night stands exist.
    I'm going to disagree here. Sex can be what's missing in a new relationship. Orgasm releases oxytocin in to the system. It's known as the "Bonding Hormone." When you orgasm with somebody, that hormone gets released in to your blood stream, drawing the two of you closer together. That's part of the reason why I like to get sex out of the way sooner rather than later. Make that incredible connection we already have even stronger and then see what will happen. Spending 10 hours with a woman just to sleep with her is a bad policy and a beautiful thing could be flushed down the drain before it had the chance to blossom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    Unless you drug her, it's her choice to keep her legs closed. What you just said right there is that a woman has no choice or control over her sex life. Watch what you say.
    It was a joke. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with a womens sex life.

    Just talking about women doing gymnastics. haha It was that simple

    I hate when I have to explain my jokes!

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    Who says courtship is linear?
    ME! haha Thefore it reality and shall not be tested!

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    That model you put up can make sense, but why not:

    Hello ----> Hotel ----> Good Morning

    After all, your model explains one of many processes out there that can lead to sex. It makes sense, though. Don't get me wrong. But in the time that you take building that sequence, I've already done that, and then some!, and have gone back for more.
    The time frame between stages can be anything sometimes instantaneously. The stages can also murge. They have to be addressed, and the more time spent on a stage the stronger it gets. There is an exception where if your stuck in a stage too long it begins to backfire.

    Its called emotional momentum.

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    But aren't guys doing the same effin' thing? "If I can get her to sleep with me then I can make her my girlfriend." It's the same on the other side as well.
    I didn't say it was only one side. Men often go about it by either using status/wealth as a indication of "boyfriend material" or by being a provider. Doing things for her without some sort of payment in return.

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    Care to expand on that one?
    NO! haha


    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    QFT
    Now your getting the hang of it!

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post

    I'm going to disagree here. Sex can be what's missing in a new relationship. Orgasm releases oxytocin in to the system. It's known as the "Bonding Hormone."
    True

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    When you orgasm with somebody, that hormone gets released in to your blood stream, drawing the two of you closer together.
    Wrong!

    The person with the connection will feel closer. The other person will just say Great job. Howabout tommorrow afternoon.

    Its just sex to one while the other is becoming more infatuated.

    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    That's part of the reason why I like to get sex out of the way sooner rather than later. Make that incredible connection we already have even stronger and then see what will happen. Spending 10 hours with a woman just to sleep with her is a bad policy and a beautiful thing could be flushed down the drain before it had the chance to blossom.

    OG
    Yes but you have a connection with her as does She with you. Afterall you are OG haha

    The connection has to be there.

    Hope this helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG612 View Post
    LLL would say your methods are that of an "AFC" (average frustrated chump). I prefer to say "Nice Guy" as it takes the negative connotation out of it. Wine & Dine, and Romance & Chivalry seem to be your thing. And that's fine. Nothing wrong with Chivalry. I still open doors . You also seem to believe that Man should not approach Woman purely for sexual reasons. That's why I have you pegged as the "Nice Guy."

    And that is where I disagree. Sex can be a very beautiful thing. As long as nobody is hurt in this process, then I don't see what the problem is. I also don't see why a date has to be Le Restaurant and Romantic Comedy where I pay for it all. Why not Shots and Billiards and we split the check or pay for our own?

    There are many ways to treat a woman like a lady without doing it like our parents did it.
    OG

    A man after my own heart. My bachelor heart.

    I played that game for 14 years. When I look back it was neither average nor frustrating for me. I was playing the field because I chose to. What I do see is all the misery that I caused. Yea they can play like casual sex isn't a big deal, but no matter how carnal, independent and confident - every woman deep down wants a relationship.

    I'm engaged now. I'm not with someone because I have to be or because I was looking for it. I'm with someone because I want to be. I could have had most anything I wanted when it came to selecting a mate.

    No offense taken. This average frustrated chump wouldn't trade places with anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThereYouAre View Post
    A man after my own heart. My bachelor heart.

    I played that game for 14 years. When I look back it was neither average nor frustrating for me. I was playing the field because I chose to. What I do see is all the misery that I caused. Yea they can play like casual sex isn't a big deal, but no matter how carnal, independent and confident - every woman deep down wants a relationship.

    I'm engaged now. I'm not with someone because I have to be or because I was looking for it. I'm with someone because I want to be. I could have had most anything I wanted when it came to selecting a mate.

    No offense taken. This average frustrated chump wouldn't trade places with anyone.
    Good for you! Being of the age that qualifies me for the title of crone (becoming a wise women) I will affirm that with a few exceptions, this is true. Some men never gain enough maturity of thought and emotion to see it. (some women never do either)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livelaughlove View Post
    It was a joke. Nothing more. It has nothing to do with a womens sex life.

    Just talking about women doing gymnastics. haha It was that simple

    I hate when I have to explain my jokes!
    I got that it was a joke from the start. But when you say "She can keep her legs closed, open, stand on one leg, or do a handstand none of it will help! haha" while discussing things a woman can do to help prevent herself from being taken advantage of, it comes across wrong. That's why I said "watch what you say."

    I didn't say it was only one side. Men often go about it by either using status/wealth as a indication of "boyfriend material" or by being a provider. Doing things for her without some sort of payment in return.
    In other words, they come from a place of supplication instead of appreciation.

    Wrong! The person with the connection will feel closer. The other person will just say Great job. How about tommorrow afternoon. Its just sex to one while the other is becoming more infatuated.
    That's why you have to be clear with your intentions. If you miscommunicate, or even don't communicate, then you end up getting off and leaving her begging for more... or vice versa. Unless you slept with someone you weren't initially attracted to, thought the sex was less than you thought it would be, or just desensitized to sex with women, then the bonding chemicals come on in force during orgasm while in coitus.

    Yes but you have a connection with her as does She with you. Afterall you are OG haha
    That's not the only reason why I'm "OG." I'm not some dog. If I have designs on sleeping with her, I'm going to make our first time together something she'll never forget. I'm not in to the one night stand. If it happens, so be it. But if sleep with her, and it was great sex all the way around, I plan on keeping her around. That's another lesson the PUA community doesn't teach.

    OTYA... good to see we have an understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Livelaughlove View Post
    Thanks kitten, Its true I LOVE WOMEN, there heart, there soul, even the idea of a women, even when they go crazy haha




    She can keep her legs closed, open, stand on one leg, or do a handstand none of it will help! haha

    There is a chronological order of courtship.

    Attraction--->Comfort--->Connection--->Seduction--->Foreplay--->SEX

    HER PROBLEM IS!!! She is skipping the connection part, and She is using sex as a way to build that connection. Which will never work!

    You cant use one stage to fix the other. Unless there is a sufficient amount already there. She doesn't need to stop sleeping with men, what she has to do is make the man invest his time and emotion on her before having sex. She does this by being an interesting girl making the guy QUALIFY himself to her!

    "give me 3 things that seperates you from all the other men in here"
    "What was the most exciting thing ever happen to yourself"
    What was the worst thing that ever happen to you"

    Make him talk about emotional experiences. Like I said before her body will make a man interested in her it wont make him stick around.

    She cant use her body to make a man stick around anymore a women can use her mind to make a man thinks she is sexy.

    THAT IS THE PROBLEM.

    Sex is a way to expand on an existing emotional bond. ITS NOT A WAY TO CREATE IT. Hence, why one night stands exist.

    Hope this helps
    Live laugh and love

    It's funny - as a woman - we just say "you have to keep your legs closed".. In fact, I even put a time limit on it, haha, 1 month.. Which is stupid, I know, I know, it's not a limit of time, but a time of connection first.

    What you wrote here, "copied/pasted", emailed, sent..

    That's probably the most astute way of getting my point across, thanks LLL..
    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!

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