family nudity, sorry this long

**Hopeless Dork** · 10-09-2010 08:56 AM

I don't disagree with that last portion of what you said I know that if people were exposed to what people really look like naked and not just the airbrushed stuff they put in magazines and internet that people WOULD feel better about themselves. I just have a real problem with the idea of children being naked in front of adults that may not have the best intentions for why they signed on to be a 'nudist'. Child porn is illegal, naked pictures of children illegal, but a pedophile can become a nudist and see all the naked children they want... and that just disturbs me that parents will bring their kids to camps let them be naked in front of grown naked men... and that they could be being exploited.

**WildChild** · 10-09-2010 09:33 AM

I can understand that concern. But it is a possiblity anyplace. I manage properties and have dealt with pedophiles in my buildings twice. Both times ended in evictions and in one case I assisted the sherriff in locating the man to make an arrest. Fortunately neither case involved my children or children living on the property.

Parents, all adults actually, have a responsibilty to be constantly aware of who is around children and what is going on. I really like Gavin deBecker's book, Protecting the Gift, for advice on teaching your kids to be safe. He teaches how to let them safely out into the world rather than isolating them to protect them. When they were younger, my rule was that my kids didn't spend time at anyone's house unless I met the parents and had visited their home. I let people know that I was very aware of and connected to my kids.

My kids were good at expressing when they weren't comfortable with a situation. I had a no questions asked policy (still do), they or any of their freinds, can call me any time, day or night, I will go pick them up from where ever they are, if they feel they need to be out of there. There may be some discussion later but the immediate concern is always safety now. More than once there were freinds who were welcome in my house but my kids weren't allowed to go to their house because something there set off my or their alarm bells.

**Texinator** · 10-09-2010 09:37 AM

Someone once shared this interesting guideline with me. Children should NEVER see their parents naked, and siblings should never see each other naked. Parents may see their children naked, but only up to 18 years old if the parent and child are of the same gender or up to 7 if the parent and child are of opposite genders. Anything else is immoral and encourages perverse thoughts and behaviors.

...which I think is a big steaming pile of cow manure.

**Hopeless Dork** · 10-09-2010 10:39 AM

I know that kids are targeted whether they are in nudist families or fully clothed families, I don't think it puts them at any greater risk for being abused physically, I just worry if it puts them at greater risk of being exploited as walking living child porn for perverts. I am not saying that all male nudists that go to family camps want to see naked children... but I'd wager to guess it could be an insentive for a pedophile to join such a group.

Just like women, women get raped wearing sweatpants at as high of a rate of women that dress provocatively and doing so isn't an invitation for an attack by any means. And there are predators out there at supermarkets and that are teachers and clergymen and men from all walks of life that prey on children with their clothes on but although we can't lock our kids up and never let them leave the house, I'd rather have mine with their clothes on as at least some barrier between them and the scum than to have them be paraded nude in front of them.

There are creepo's in every sect, nudists are no different. While some may be on some oh i am spiritual and communining with nature because I am naked kick, there are some there for the voyerism and I just can't see risking putting a child in that situation.

**Thomas Hepburn** · 10-10-2010 02:59 AM

Couldn't agree with Wildchild anymore. Spot on. Hopeless Dork, have you ever been to a nudist venue? Yes there are dangers in any environment but no more in a nudist venue than others. Parents, and all adults, in these venues watch other adults and the slightest indiscretion would get noticed. But that wasn't how the thread started. It was about family nudity at home. Anybody that thinks bathing together at that age is wrong is daft. If we had a society where everyone was always naked (not suggesting it, by the way) nobody would take notice. Kids would grow up learning about bodies in the most natural way when they are naked together. I had to learn about girls in my teens from dirty mags because there was nowhere that I went to where I could see any naturally naked. The wrong way for a boy to learn about girls! We all have ahng-ups about being naked, simply beacause our society(ies) can't deal with nudity properly without involving sex.

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