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    Long story short my older brother is extremely aggressive we're all at our wits end. My brother (other brother) is afraid to move out incase he kills us while he isn't there. He lives with my grandmother *who lives across the road* but always comes over here and starts trouble. He tried to straggle my mum once and has went for me numerous times.
    We don't know what to do anymore we can't go on like this, we had an abusive father I refuse to go through the same thing all over again. His anger is so frightening (btw he's 25) there's no way my grandmother will throw him out and she won't move either even though we know he's making her life a living
    We think the only option is to have him put away (sanctioned ((sp?)) I don't want to it seems so horrible. The doctor immediately put him through to a top phsyciatrist when he told him his symptoms, but I know (we know) for a fact he will not own up to the extent of his aggresion and will not take any meds he is later perscribed. I literally lost it earlier, screaming crying just generally broke down because I'm sick of me and my mother feeling bullied, it's all we've ever known and my other brother having to defend us all the time. Sorry for the long post I'm just so upset and lost right now
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    Sounds like sending him away for treatment is best. Don't feel guilty about it, it's for everyone's safety.
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    Sorry Kerry, this must be extremely frightening and frustrating.

    Can you and your Mother move?

    Have you ever reported the abuse?
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    "Aggressive sociopath" is a likely diagnosis. I'm sorry to inform you that there is no cure.

    And "treatment" of aggressive sociopathy hasn't changed much in the last century: ECT ('electroconvulsive therapy' or 'electrohock'), Lithium and clozapine, operant conditioning, and in rare cases aversion therapy.

    In addition to that your brother is also 20x more likely to commit suicide, and runs a very high risk of developing the following: Schizophrenia, narcotic addiction, paranoia, and is 3x as likely to contract an STD/STI.

    Hate to end on a down note, but there is no upside to this disorder.

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    I've had a similar situation (well, not just one, but many many years) with my sister, she's 28. My mom has metal pins and rods in her ankle because of my sister, that's just one of the many many issues my DB sis has caused. You HAVE to press charges against him whenever he does anything physically. If you don't press charges, there is not much the police can do. If she doesn't want him there, she can look into the laws or talk to an officer about having him physically removed and a restraining order placed against him.

    People like that very rarely change. Not even something like 'tough love' helps, sometimes you just need to completely cut them out of your life.

    AND, just an FYI, my sister can BS her way through a psych eval even though she is completely crazy. After so many years, treatment, money spent, etc., she knows exactly what to say so that everyone ends up saying 'oh, she's fine, nothing wrong with her.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by SinisterUrge View Post
    "Aggressive sociopath" is a likely diagnosis. I'm sorry to inform you that there is no cure.
    Boy oh boy! If that isn't the truth, I don't know what is!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    Sorry Kerry, this must be extremely frightening and frustrating.

    Can you and your Mother move?

    Have you ever reported the abuse?
    It's just that I don't want to move away and my grandmother lives with him alone I'm scared to death for her. I don't want to be bullied out of my home I refuse to let another bully to this to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by LanaBear View Post
    I've had a similar situation (well, not just one, but many many years) with my sister, she's 28. My mom has metal pins and rods in her ankle because of my sister, that's just one of the many many issues my DB sis has caused. You HAVE to press charges against him whenever he does anything physically. If you don't press charges, there is not much the police can do. If she doesn't want him there, she can look into the laws or talk to an officer about having him physically removed and a restraining order placed against him.

    People like that very rarely change. Not even something like 'tough love' helps, sometimes you just need to completely cut them out of your life.

    AND, just an FYI, my sister can BS her way through a psych eval even though she is completely crazy. After so many years, treatment, money spent, etc., she knows exactly what to say so that everyone ends up saying 'oh, she's fine, nothing wrong with her.'

    Good luck!
    It's just to hard to get change in this family! We just let everything fester until the next episode I can't take it anymore I feel like the only way to get some action done is to do something drastic. I wish I was lying but when he went off on another one the other day I swear I just wanted to grab a bunch of pills and neck them with whiskey I feel like unless something like that serious happens then nothing will be done!!!
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    Start calling the cops. Every time. Whether he can be helped or not is not within your capabilities but you can help yourself and the rest of your family by getting him out of your immediate lives and into care. He may be able to keep up a facade for a while but if there is a lengthy legal record of his actions his behavior is more likely to be taken seriously.

    One of my sisters had a BIL like this, her husband had to knock him out with a baseball bat once when he came after her. They can get super human strength, and seemingly feel no pain when they go off and they gat very sly at hiding what they are. You can't wait on this, he's too dangerous. You don't need the stress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LanaBear View Post
    AND, just an FYI, my sister can BS her way through a psych eval even though she is completely crazy. After so many years, treatment, money spent, etc., she knows exactly what to say so that everyone ends up saying 'oh, she's fine, nothing wrong with her.'
    Yes, very good point. Sometimes a psychological illness has no effect on a person's cognitive functions. Sociopaths lie and cheat extremely well because many of the 'tells' that signal when a normal person is lying just don't apply because the sociopath, literally, has no emotion to betray. They can shoot a box full of puppies, have the smoking gun in their hand, and still pass a polygraph test while telling the operator they're a blind French jet pilot who has never even seen a firearm before.

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