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    I don’t really know where to start with this because this is the first time I have had an issue like this with my brother. The reason I’m writing here is because I need advice and to vent. I’m eight months pregnant and am really over stressing myself over this.

    I am the youngest of my five siblings and this brother is about 19 years older than me. He is married, has three step children who are older than me (late 20’s), and five grandchildren. He supports two of his step children along with the five grandchildren. He is the only one in the family that works out of his wife, two step children, and five grandchildren. My brother has a drinking problem and has for some time. I have always pushed it aside and kept my mouth shut however my youngest brother was at one time close to this brother says he can’t have a relationship anymore because his drinking is so bad.

    He divorced about twelve years ago and married this woman. His wife’s children have stolen from him, wrecked his cars, and did drugs within his home (in which they have spent time in prison for). His wife just makes them apologize and my brother just buries himself with his alcohol. He has confined in my husband and I about how his step children abuse the nice things he does for them. His wife however has never been part of our big family. Every family function she has not come to and has been in the family for eleven and half years. I continue to invite her and try to make her welcome however I don’t get any response.

    Last night my brother calls me out of the blue yelling at me. Telling me he is mad that I didn’t give his wife a birthday present but he always gives my husband and children birthday presents. I told him I don’t know anything about her and didn’t know it was her birthday and I was sorry. He then continues his yelling to how I hurt her feelings many years ago and our sister did as well. I than asked what I did to hurt her feelings and he says he doesn’t know because she won’t tell him. Getting really upset by that time I asked him how and why he would call and yell at me when he doesn’t even know what her issue is with me or what I did to hurt her feelings. He then continued in on me about how I spent this previous Thanksgiving around my table with my family talking bad about him, which we didn’t nor did he attend our gathering because he never does. Her family to me is always more important.

    By this point I was very mad because this all came out of left field. I told him all we knew about his family was the bad because we have never been around them (this includes my three other siblings, my husband and my mother), I told him I didn’t think it was good that he has a convicted felon living under his roof and allows her to drink in front of her children. I told him I felt bad for him because he continues to drink himself to death because of the stress this family brings and it makes me very sad.

    After him yelling at me some more I told him I have open arms for his wife and her family but I can only reach so far. I told him I felt like his wife and her children has consumed his life not for the better. I told him my frustration with the fact he was at the birth of all five grandchildren but when his only sister (myself) who is capable of having children has a child he chose to plan his vacation with his step children than come see his only nephew. In fact, he was the only one out of our entire family who didn’t come see my son and he lives not far from the hospital. He didn’t see my son till he was two months old. I told him it really hurt my feelings that his blood is always being pushed aside.

    Then he went as far as telling me I was jealous of his step daughter who I personally believe has nothing going for her till she lays off the drugs (she never graduated high school, lives with him, he supports her children, unemployed, has never had a job in her life, etc.). That hurt even more to hear he would believe his sister would be jealous of someone he complains about all the time. By this point, I had being yelled at because of hurting his wife’s feelings in which he had no idea what I did to hurt her feelings, nor do I. So I hung up on him.

    After calling my other brother to tell him just what happened I was informed he was drunk and had called our mother as well to yell at her for buying his grandchildren Christmas gifts instead of giving them money. My mother later called me crying because she felt like she has gone above and beyond to make his wife and family welcome and has been buying his step grandchildren gifts since they were born, treating them just like she would my son.

    I was in rather shock and very upset emotionally so I tried to get my mind off it and decided to check my email. What a bad idea I had several emails from his wife along with his step daughter basically yelling at me about the same thing and calling my husband and mother bad things. I read them in disbelief not even being able to finish them I get a call from his wife which I didn’t answer she then left me a mean message. Then my brother continued to call me till one a.m. when his first call was at 5 that evening. He kept calling so I turned my phone off. Than this morning I had seven messages from him yelling at me and he calling me names.

    I am so hurt and confused it’s unreal. I have done nothing to him and feel like I have a target on my back. Not only that but I’m confused, I know he has a drinking problem but why would he go as far as to have his wife and step daughter yell at me as well. I am assuming he was drunk when he called but I’m not for sure. I want to cut him out of my life after the horrible things that were said to me and about my husband and son. Being eight months pregnant this has caused me to start having contractions which I’m high risk since I was twenty weeks, he knows this too. I don’t know how to deal…I guess what would you guys do? I have never had an issue with my brother before like this. I keep my mouth shut when he calls me crabbing about his step children for the reason I don’t want to be involved with the drama.

    Is it a wrong move to not want anything to do with him any further? It’s not just me who received a call it was my mother and sister. They just have a higher tolerance with his behavior…I just don’t know how to deal after being told in not so many words that he doesn’t care about his nephew, my son (my son is the only child of all five of my siblings..the rest do not have children other than step).

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    Is it a wrong move to not want anything to do with him any further?
    No...it is not wrong. Blood does not give someone an excuse to treat people rotten. A drinking problem (being an alcoholic) does not give someone an excuse to treat people rotten. You and your husband and children come FIRST. There is NOTHING about his drunken rampages that is worth yours or your baby's health.

    You MUST not take what a drunk says to you personally. I know it's hard. Trust me...I know. But what they say is not about you, it's about them. It is NOT about you.

    It's hurtful to think of cutting your brother out of your life. I know that won't be easy for you. I think he needs to be aware that you will NOT communicate with him in any form when he's been drinking. That you welcome a conversation (after you've had your baby...) in which you both are of sober and clear mind, where you can sit down and talk about the things he wants to talk about. Tell him this. I'd be willing to be he wouldn't want that conversation, because when he's sober, these things aren't a problem for him. It's when he's drunk he becomes irrational because he's clearly VERY unhappy with who he is, and the life he is living. So tell him you're more than willing to have this conversation. The next time he calls you drunk, say "I will not talk to you when you're drinking. Call me when you're sober" and hang up. Then do not answer if he calls back.

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    Once you are over the age of 18, you get to choose your family. They are only family by birth only and once they provide more chaos, anger, frustration and hurt instead of love...sometimes it's time to let go.

    Trust me, I know how hard it is to be in your position. From the bottom of my heart I'm really sorry you are faced with this.

    If you decide to cut them off or say "call me when you are sober", it will be hard at first. I want you to know it gets easier every day and one day you'll wake up and realize how relaxed and unstressed you feel.

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    I have come to the conclusion is the best to cut him out of my life but after talking to my other siblings about it they disagree. They are now all against me on this but again I'm the only one other than one of my brother who has also cut himself out of his life, to do this. My brother who did cut this brother out of his life (same reason because of drinking) now has nothing to do with our family infact I'm the only person in the whole family who speaks to him since they are mad he cut this brother out of his life. I'm really hurt because I didn't deserve to be yelled at him like this.

    Not to mention after I posted this I recieved a ton of emails from his step daughter threating to beat me up and calling me names. To the point I called my brother and told him if I recieved another email or she flooded my inbox again I was calling the cops. Along with more from his wife about how I'm a horrible person for forgetting her birthday. This all started because I forgot her birthday. I don't know her...never been around her because she isolates herself from our family...so I don't think its hard to do...to forget someone's birthday you don't know.

    I'm still an emotional wreck because now I'm not only trying to deal with my sibling treating me this way but the whole family being against me. Its so childish I think for them him to act this way and after speaking with my sister I found out he lost his job. Which I believe contributed to this behavior because he is desperate for money since he supports her whole family. Which I think is a wrong way to approach this situation. He could have asked me nicely to why I forgot her birthday instead of bringing more things into this.

    Having money problems as well my family is tight with money but I would never in my life do this to someone else. I think drinking plays a huge role in this but I don't understand why his wife and step daughter would treat me this way either. I'm just really a mess right now trying to understand how I got turned into the bad guy. With my husband being gone for work I feel like I'm falling into a pit of depression and not having family to support me on this other than my one brother really hurts.

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    You are not the only one who has had to deal with this boorish behavior. Your other brother came to the conclusion to cut this brother out of his life and I think you should follow his example. When you do that, you can strengthen your bond with your other brother.

    If the stepdaughter wants to continue to harass you, get her attention by getting a court ordered restraining order her from harassing you and approaching you. She will know you remember her after that.

    The others that support this boorish behavior are just as bad as the boorish people.

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    I wanted to update everyone what has happened in the last few days.

    I decided to cut my brother out of my life until his step daughter, wife, and himself could come to me and say they were sorry however.... Talking to several family members about my brother's drinking problem and a former teacher who is now a counsler I decided it might not be best that I cut him completely out. Mainly since he doesn't have a support group with his wife and her adult children. His wife's previous husband drank himself to death and I believe that is what is happening to him. I have decided to wait til my child is born before I start talking to him...since I don't want the stress.

    My mother has since cut him out of her will and told him she wants nothing to do with him until he sees how his wife is controlling him. (He had called my mom yelling as well accusing her of doing cocaine which was so funny to me cause my mother would never in her life even take pain killers much less be a person who would use drugs.) I understand alot of where my mom is coming from since their communication skills between my brother and his wife are very poor. He will tell us one thing than turn around and lie about something he said infront of his wife so he doesn't look like a bad guy.

    As for treating his wife like family...I'm having a hard time wanting to have anything to do with her again even if she says she is sorry. I also have a hard time treating someone like family that hasn't made themselve apart of the family. I'm also trying to understand why someone would get mad about not recieving a birthday gift enough to cause all this drama. I still cannot wrap my mind around it.

    Another thing that is really getting to me after speaking to my mother about him (which she is/was closer to him than I was). I found that his wife's children use him for money, booze, and whatever else than can get from him. They are all adult children with children of their own and live under his roof, which they don't pay rent or work. Not only that but the one daughter who was threating me is an convicted felon. My brother whenever he is away from his wife complains non stop about his problems at home, his wife's kids who refuse to work, and money. To me it sounds like he is having a problem with the living situation however whenever she is around he turns it around and says the adult kids are the best kids in the world etc. Do you think he is depressed? I don't understand why he went from no drinking to drinking and viewing his wife around him it seems like she enables his drinking.

    I guess I don't know where else to go with this. I don't want to walk completely out of his life if he does need a support system but I don't think I can have anything to do with how his wife and step children treat him. When it does come time to talking to him, do I address this? Do I wait till he quits drinking or should I help him seek help with his drinking? Also should I believe him when he tells me he hasn't been drinking...since I know alcholics lie about their addiction? How do I address any of this, I have come to the conclusion I do want to cut him out of my life but I don't think that will help him any since he doesn't have a support group. I feel like his wife is trying to divide him from his family to get more for her children and family.

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    Your brother made a choice, albeit a bad one. It's his responisibility to be accountable for those choices.

    You've made it known that if (and that's a big if) and when he's ready for help, you'll be there for him. But your help only extends to him personally, not to the situation as it stands.

    You're not his keeper. You're his sister.
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    Pretzel is right. You can be available to him, when he is behaving. You do not have to be available to his wife and her children. You do not need this in your life and don't have to tollerate it. He doesn't have to stay with this woman, he doesn't have to support her children and grandchildren, that is his choice. If he doesn't like it he can change it.
    You can control the contact. You can tell who is calling on your phone, just don't answer. If it is your brother and he is acting up, just say, "I love you, got to run" and hang up. You don't have to explain or justify anything.

    You don't have to tell your siblings that you are cutting him off. Don't say anything, just do it. What they don't know won't hurt you.
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