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    This morning my wife was going through my 15yr old daughter's cell phone. We had taken the phone away due to some school issues. What my wife found was very disturbing. My daughter has been sending and receiving very explicite text messages. She's even send photos of herself in her under garments. This is all to some boy at school who happens to be her best friend's boyfriend. This is not behavior that we encourage nor condone. We plan to talk with her this weekend when my wife and I can prayerfully figure out what to do, as we are both at a loss. Has anyone else gone through this?

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    Seriously, I could use some help on this. We haven't had to deal with this before. If it were drugs, smoking or alcohol we would have an idea as to what to do. I really don't know where this has come from. We are both attentive and loving, plus what my wife and I do in the bedroom has always stayed there. She hasent been abused or anything. If she were older I'm not so sure it would upset us as much. Just at a loss.

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    This is fairly common behavior. It probably doesn't have anything to do with how loving or attentive you were. I have not been through this as a parent, but I suggest you take away her cell phone privileges (or purchase her a very simple and cheap phone without a camera or texting privileges) until she proves she can be trusted to use them correctly. Photos of her in her underwear could be considered child porn, and she needs to understand that! There are serious consequences to this reckless behavior, no matter how common it is with the current technology.

    You should address with her why she feels she needs to get a boy's attention in this way. Especially one who is not attached to her in any way - instead being attached to someone who is supposed to be her best friend. If she feels it isn't a big deal, remind her about it being child porn, as well as the possibility that this photo could go ANYWHERE after it leaves her phone.

    Best wishes; this is a hard topic.

    EDIT: Just adding that my origin of expertise is that I was a teenager when picture messaging and camera phones became popular.

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    I agree with Little on this.. I would also recommend going through her Computer if she has one. She needs to earn your trust again and realize the Dangers out there.

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    Thank you for the input ladies. Cell phones weren't an issues with my 2 oldest, as the weren't that affordable when they were this age, and I grew up when there were no cell phones. I think I was like 16 when we got our first cordless. My wife was thinking of notifing the school, but was afraid of legal consequences. We also thought of taking her to a clinic and have them explain STD's to her as they don't cover those in school any more. So different from when I was a kid. Just don't know why she feels the need to do this. We have taken the phone away and will probably do so with the computer as well. We have given more to her, not just in things but of ourselves as well, than we did to her siblings. Not out of favoritism though it seems that way. This weekend is going to be hard.

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    Oh Ska ,

    Please don't take them all away from her, she will probably rebel even more and in the Long Run, you will have more trouble than you can Imagine ..

    You should Limit her use. have her Earn them and the Time on them back.
    Sit her down and have a Calm, Family Talk. in a PARENT Voice .

    Explain this is Consequences, Not Punishment. This is the same as if you do this, this will or May happen. You can use School issues, If you do Not Study and follow procedure, you will Fail the class, or get Suspended ( Behavior things ) , You get in a fight, you are Suspended.

    This is what I found , these are the Rules, list what is acceptable behavior for her or anyone in your care, what is Not Acceptable.

    Go over the Dangers, With her, don't just Tell her . Get the Computer ( after doing so yourself with wife to set proper non Porn sites to share with her )

    And sit with her, have her Search in Google or bing or whichever you use.
    " Teen Abductions, Teen Rape, Teens and Predators. What is Child Porn, what can Happen to you if " fill in Blank ".

    Doing this will show her, You are Concerned, You Love her, you are Protecting her . Ask her to read , talk, explain how she see's it .

    But letting her Read for her own, this is what Can happen .. And it's not Just you and Mom, that are saying what has happened or Can.

    She will then be able to focus on the Point, not just the Parents saying NO.
    It may help her make reasonable semi Adult Decisions for herself and also learn responsibility, following rules, which we all have to do.

    I'm sure you will get the " Invading My Privacy " attitude and concern .

    There is a Simple answer to that. " I should never have to even think about trusting your Decisions again, or Should I " ?

    And the very " Legally Responsible " Reply is , I ( we ) are Responsible for You until you turn of legal age, therefore we will do what we feel best and to not endanger your life, while in our Custody, as deemed by Law".

    You can say "After legal age you may be Responsible for yourself, though when in our home, You will Still Follow the Rules for Yours and Our Protection and Contentment as a Family .

    I sometimes wonder how I have an almost 25 year old son and a 21 year old Daughter, Both Virgins, Real and True Virgins and still living at home with me , One employed over 4 years , same and Only Job, other studying for her Graphic Arts and communication degree ?

    I think it was the "Teachings " that were deep seeded from my Gram, meaning the subtle and not so subtle one,s like grounding and earning privileges and also the Realizing that She was Right ( in the Long Run ) lol



    I would Not call or Contact the School, Her Best Friend, Her Best Friends Boyfriend... just yet.

    I would however take her Phone, Text all of her Friends, Notify them .it is Now in Your " Possession " and ask them if it is ok to Contact their Parents with the Photo's and Conversations that are on your Daughters phone ?

    I will bet, that you get no replies back that say Yes .. Go ahead..

    Expect your Daughter to hate you for a Bit. but.. she will Love you Later, for the Care and Love you have now to help her make Wise Choices.



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    Taking things away don't work, I don't believe..It makes a teenager more rebelious and angry and a very un-comfortable home to live in.

    I don't agree this is a very common thing...Why? Because, she is doing this with her best friends boyfriend. The guy isn't available to start with but more importantly, she needs to understand what a "friend" is and how to "treat a friend".

    I would use that as the discussion initially. Talk to her about boundries, reverse the situation with her, for her to imagine and ask her how she would feel..Discuss the trust between "friends" that is needed and real...And, ask her how she could call and claim this girl as a friend...Make her realise and feel bad and wrong for what she is doing, or else she will tread on all "friends" toes and not give a darn as the years go by, sleeping with their boyfriends...

    From there, I would have your wife discuss with her, her crushes when she was a teenager, and the feelings that she had, after all she's 15, that part is normal.. But, to then point out, that he's taken, yet he's okay with getting these racy pictures from her, text messaging... How many guys is he showing those pictures to? You don't accept pictures of someone when you are in a relationship without bragging about them...I bet if he got her to do that, he has his girlfriend doing it too, and he wouldn't be showing his girlfriend's photos to anyone.....Again, let her see visualisation of OMG seriously? Really hone in on it.

    You need to make her think "mmm, yeah I do have more respect, morals and she is my friend what was I doing and mmmm, what a player, he could be showing those photos around or if not WILL at some stage, like when I stop texting him and he gets mad....

    Then let her know that you have to be so careful, sending photos they could end up on you tube, if he gets mad one day, for instance, and it will ruin her reputation....

    You are not going to stop her from doing this...But you may be able to stop her from doing it to boys that will turn it against her or turn them over to the girlfriend...

    I would take the scare tactic approach of what may happen and the moral to friendship approach...that way you are not destroying your own relationship with her, but still guiding her and trying to set her firm on a better future for herself...
    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!

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    Well to ease your fears a little, the removal of phone and computer were actually removal of privilages that she may earn back. She will still have use of a computer while supervised till we can set up controls on hers. I didn't have too much influence on my 2 oldest children due to a personal problem in my life, but I've been the most everyday for my youngest, except when the military took me away. I'm still learning everyday how to be a good father and husband and everyone here has been helpful. Even if its reading everyone else's posts and threads. My own family is not what you'd call a roll model, but more of a study in what not to do. They say knowing what not to do is half the battle. I will tell you, its still not that easy. I always try to come from a position of love and never anger or violence with her. I pray we get through this.

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    How are things going? I'm taking notes for when my kids get older. I can't wait till I get to deal with what technology has in store for my boys. The battle of wills has already started with my 9 year old. I'm thinking by the time he's in his teens, I'll be relying heavily on duct tape.

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    I think that reducing her phone to a basic model is the right approach, with a possibility of her getting her phone back for good behavior. Her computer should have parental controls and maybe you should use a sniffer to monitor all internet access. Have her earn trust again.
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