Are you judging Tiger Woods?

**SecretlySad** · 12-08-2009 09:26 PM

A friend of mine told me recently that he still loves Tiger Woods, that he isn't concerning himself with Tiger's personal life and still thinks he's the greatest golfer in the world. I asked him if instead of having affairs, Tiger was molesting children, would he still not judge him on his personal affairs?

He just repeated that he doesn't pay any attention to his personal life and only sees him as the brilliant golfer he is.

How do you feel about the whole thing?

Personally I can't stand the guy now. I can't believe he would do such horrible things to his wife and family. People like that, clearly with no conscience whatsoever, make me sick.

**KMonte85** · 12-09-2009 06:40 AM

I've always taken a stance that there are three sides to every celebrity...

1. The side you get to see via the media
2. The side of who the really are that only family/close friends will see
3. The side that made them famous in the first place, ie their talent.

So when it comes to Tiger, welll.....

I think via what I hear from the media that he is a huge womanizing pig, BUT do I know what was going on in his household? Maybe his wife is some rancid hag and he stuck in a loveless marriage and was acting out... We'll never ACTUALLY know everything. As for his talent... He is/was/will be one of the world's most talented golfers - A few extramartial affairs won't change that.

**sourpuss** · 12-09-2009 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by SecretlySad

A friend of mine told me recently that he still loves Tiger Woods, that he isn't concerning himself with Tiger's personal life and still thinks he's the greatest golfer in the world. I asked him if instead of having affairs, Tiger was molesting children, would he still not judge him on his personal affairs?

He just repeated that he doesn't pay any attention to his personal life and only sees him as the brilliant golfer he is.

How do you feel about the whole thing?

Personally I can't stand the guy now. I can't believe he would do such horrible things to his wife and family. People like that, clearly with no conscience whatsoever, make me sick.

Whoa, whoa! Having an affair and molesting a kid are two totally different things!!

Personally, I'm not judging him. We don't know what the truth is, we only know what the TV tells us, which can rarely be trusted. (especially in a slow news week)

Of course, what he did was wrong. I'm certainly not defending him. But I am sympathetic to the stresses that come along with not only being a professional athlete but also being ridiclously rich and famous. I'm sure he's got everything coming at him from every direction. And at the end of the day, he's human just like the rest of us.

**WildChild** · 12-09-2009 08:11 AM

Don't know the man. But I've been interviewed in the media before and can tell you that what ends up in the news clip or the article can have nothing to do with what you said - even if they have your face and words on the screen. Just lookat the tabloids; side by side one says couple breaking up the other says romantic holiday.

**pretzel** · 12-09-2009 08:53 AM

You bet I'm judging Tiger.

I'm not judging his skill, determination and dedication to making himself the greatest golfer in history. He's proven that he's well on his way to achieving that. He is the best conditioned, best shotmaker and best under pressure I've ever seen.

I most certainly am judging his character and morality. His celebrity and ability to earn boatloads of money doesn't give him the right to act any differently than anyone of us who visit here. It doesn't give him a free pass because of all his charitable foundations and his other work in the community. And it most certainly doesn't give him free reign to cheat and disrespect his family like he did. I really don't give a rat's behind that this is the talk around both the news and the internet. One affair would be a couple of day news item and then he and his wife could make decisions based on what's best for them behind closed doors. He's had multiple affairs over a period of a couple of years. That's a conscious decision on his part.

**LanaBear** · 12-09-2009 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by pretzel

You bet I'm judging Tiger.

I'm not judging his skill, determination and dedication to making himself the greatest golfer in history. He's proven that he's well on his way to achieving that. He is the best conditioned, best shotmaker and best under pressure I've ever seen.

I most certainly am judging his character and morality. His celebrity and ability to earn boatloads of money doesn't give him the right to act any differently than anyone of us who visit here. It doesn't give him a free pass because of all his charitable foundations and his other work in the community. And it most certainly doesn't give him free reign to cheat and disrespect his family like he did. I really don't give a rat's behind that this is the talk around both the news and the internet. One affair would be a couple of day news item and then he and his wife could make decisions based on what's best for them behind closed doors. He's had multiple affairs over a period of a couple of years. That's a conscious decision on his part.

I agree with you 100%! Sure, he's a great golfer and always will be, you can't deny that.

One affair... Okay... Not saying it is right, but that wouldn't be a blip on the radar these days. Multiple affairs, yeah, not so much. It is still a conscious decision on his part to hurt his family like that. Morally, he lives little to be desired right now.

We all have stress, pain, etc. But I don't believe that gives anybody the right to throw their morals out the window and wave winky at numerous different ladies over the course of a couple of years.

**GlitterAndStuds** · 12-09-2009 09:31 AM

It's true that not knowing all the facts impairs judgement a little.

There could have been problems with his wife/at home.

He could be a sex addict... The fact that it's gone up to what, 7 women now can make that a possibility.

Things like this certainly don't justify what he did. Whatever problems you have, you work through them instead of just running in the other direction until you hit another wall.

Am I judging him? Not necessarily. But does it make me think differently of him because it wasn't something anyone was thinking they'd hear? Oh yes.

**Hopeless Dork** · 12-09-2009 09:47 AM

I think Tiger got caught up in a married too soon ideal. I doubt he was very popular with the ladies prior to his first masters win, but thats neither here nor there... he decided to make a commitment to his wife knowing by that point women were pretty much throwing themselves at him , as happens with pro-athletes... he should have known whether or not he had the conviction to resist temptations.

With all that in mind maybe he chose to marry hoping it would settle him down, maybe he knew he wouldn't but he was selfish (shocker for a pro athlete, I know!) and wanted a beautiful woman by his side and there for him always at home while he could still live like a single guy out of the house.

Many guys without tigers money and fame seek the same luxery of having their cake and eating it too.

I think Elin, however, is a prime example to women everywhere that feel their husband only cheated because they were overweight, getting older, not as attractive... that it happens to everyone , your beauty , as elin had no question... doesn't matter.

So if you have a pig, SO... get in shape and look attractive for yourself to feel good but feeling bad about having a few extra pounds thinking it may cause him to stray ... a faithful man ain't going nowhere.. and unfaithful one will cheat on a supermodel.

**SecretlySad** · 12-09-2009 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by sourpuss

Whoa, whoa! Having an affair and molesting a kid are two totally different things!!

Of course, I wasn't comparing the two at all. The point I was trying to make to my friend was is his judging or not judging of Tiger's personal life selective - does he choose what and what not to judge him on or is it overall?

**CHANDLERS WISH** · 12-09-2009 03:20 PM

On a physcological point of view, they are stating that it's very difficult being a celebrity and having that statis, endorsements, fame and then try to live a normal married life, like everyone else who is out of the spotlife.

It's not the temptation it's the already "living a double life", one of a successful person who is adored by millions and can be who he wants, and often not who he is, and a normal, married man with child who lives behind a picket fence.

His "mentor" whom he turned to for every decision, who guided him was his father, who died in 2006. These affairs are claimed to have started directly after.

He was / is trying to live two lives, one of fantasy, not real as he sees his life and one as a married man with child, the normal life, the real life. He's stuck between two and shouldn't have gotten married, but something clicked that made him want his wife and love her.

Fantasy and love.

Not excusing him either, but I've seen/read this over and over with celebrities and I don't know if I was that rich and famous that I wouldn't have issues mentally trying to be a normal person, whilst living in a fantasy world of endorsements and things that people only dream of...

It's almost like a split personality of two people in one body..

CW