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    Okay, where to start? I am completely freaked out, I am 19 years old and started going to the gyn when I was 16 because I wasn't having regular periods. I would have a period for six months in a year for two years straight so the doctor put me on birth control. From my first visit at the gyn I had a pap smear done. I frequently get UTIs and was placed on a medication to help heal my urinary tract. I have been with my boyfriend for the past year and been completely faithful as he has too. I also have a problem with ovarian cyst, my past ovarian cyst was near 7cm engolfing my left ovary. I have had 3 different gyns due to insurance reasons and simply not feeling comfortable with them. I have had 2 of the 3 hpv vaccines but decided not to continue to the third vaccine due to personal reasons. Finally I thought I found a gyn I liked! Well, that was until yesterday. I had a pap smear done with my current gyn in September of this year, the pap came back adnormal. When my abnormal pap came back, the appointment for a retest and a coploscopy was postponed due to my ovarian cyst. My gyn finally did the retest and coploscopy yesterday. I was nervous after the nurse told me what had to be done, I found it very painful as a normal pap is discomforting to some, I have been poked for the past months with the spetcum and ultrasound tool because they were monitoring the cyst. During the exam, she was ensuring me that everything was okay, and that there were slight changes and she just wanted to be sure it was nothing serious. She said that she didn't think anything of it. The first thing that bothered me there was there were slight changes. The pap that came back in Sept was the first pap she has every done on me so how could she tell there were changes. So she finished the exam by taking a sample. By this time I was on the table in tears. When she was completely finished she was saying changes like this in the cervix are caused by HPV. This freaked me out, my mom was in the room and knows everything about me and my sexual life. As soon as the gyn said HPV, she thought she was done, she wasn't going to explain more. As a doctor, how can you tell a patient, young patient, something like that and just be done with the appointment. So my mom stopped her asking questions. The doctor made me sound like a , in all seriousiness. In all honest, I am not a , while many people who may be say they aren't. When we asked the gyn how it is possible to have hpv while I had the 2 of the 3 vaccines, she was saying it was important to finish the vaccine process and kept trying to sale me on the vaccine, as if she was the drug company. The reason I am posting is simply because I am upset. And I have questions.

    I have a family history of ovarian cancer, breast cancer, and cervic cancer does this increase my chances of abnormal paps?

    Does an abnormal pap always mean you have HPV?

    Can my urinary problems be the result of a abnormal reading?

    Can my ovarian cyst problems caused this reading?

    What am I suppose to do in the meantime of worrying about the test results?(Won't hear anything back until Jan.)


    My mother spoke to the office today, luckly the doctor was out of office, I feel if she was there, my mom would have a choice of words. My mom briefly filled in the receptionist who had a abnormal pap and said it was nothing to be too stressed about, she was similar in my age. The nurse my mother talked to advised my mom to have me file a grievance with the office on the doctor for her 'bedside manners'. And told my mom to have me call her if I have any questions or concerns and she will talk and explain anything to me.
    I'm very nervous and worried. Any and all suggestions will greatly be appericated.
    Thanks!
    ~Lynn

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    Hi Lynn, welcome to the Forum.

    Firstly, their job is very clinical and unfortunately, to find a good gyno that also explains things and makes women feel comfortable seems to be very hard to find.. Which is sad all they do in reality is create more anxiety.

    So, try to take a few deep breathes.

    The first thing that bothered me there was there were slight changes. The pap that came back in Sept was the first pap she has every done on me so how could she tell there were changes.
    I believe that they can determine "irregularities also" in ultrasounds and spectrums from your cysts and those records would have been made available to her. Hense her comment to you about wanting to check up, from changes...

    Secondly let's take you through the steps of HPV... I think the main problem is that no one is discussing things with you, just throwing their verdicts at you without explanation. If I was 19, I would freak too at being told "HPV" and thinking all sorts of things about what "they are thinking"

    HPV, has over 100 different strains. Most don't cause Cancer. It is claimed that by the time every current woman reaches 50 years of age, 80% would have acquired some form of strain of the HPV virus. Some lead to abnormal pap smears, most are low risk but they need to be checked and confirmed, due to cervical cancer, which I have had, 2nd degree of, 5 years clear so far

    Pap smears can prevent Cervical Cancer as they detect changes and it's believed to be the only method that can.. Fortunately with constant pap smears and detection they can prevent cancer.

    Pap smears are the only method that can detect HPV... which can only occur from skin to skin contact during sex, but can also include oral sex, and stress can bring it on and allow it to be seen. Many remember are NOT cancerous out of the 100 strains and it is so common it's not funny. Most people carry it for years and never even know they have one or more of the strains. It has nothing to do with being a sexual person with a variety of partners, it only takes one partner that your partners had, from oral sex for instance and he has it, you have it. So please don't think they don't know that, these are facts, they are fully aware of it..

    This is why they asked you to do a second pap smear and colposcopy, from September, they suspected this back then, as I said, Pap smears are the only method of determining HPV. This is what she meant but she said she didn't feel concerned which means you more than likely have a low risk strain, non-cancerous.

    And, I think you see HPV as genital warts etc, that's a different HPV.

    Birth control pills that they gave you help regulate your period but it also stops ovulation which stops functional cysts from forming. I suspect that is why you were put on the pill.

    It's in your favour.

    Colposcopys hurt, our vagina is such a soft tissue, slicing into that off course is painful, I remember it well, in fact I cried... actually I went nuts at the nurses and the Doctor It shouldn't have hurt that much, they should have numbed it more before slicing away. Plus it's our "private parts" so that in itself is un-comfortable.






    I have had 2 of the 3 hpv vaccines but decided not to continue to the third vaccine due to personal reasons.
    Remember, HPV have 100 strains (some are cancerous) which is Cervical Cancer, so yes, an abnormal pap smear means you could have one of the 100 which is cancerous, like I did, which your gyno is not thinking is the case, rather one of the other 100 strains, non cancerous...

    I think they located your cysts, from what you are saying and more than likely you had a sonogram for that... to be located.

    Just wait for your tests to come back..

    To me, it actually sounds she knows what she is doing, but is cold and in-sensitive, I encourage you to again try to find a gyno that can talk openly and explain things to you properly and not make you feel that HPV means you played the game, or your partners did, it's a factual think in humans that 80% obtain from the research I conducted and DOES NOT MEAN GENTIAL WARTS, which is what I think again, you have come to the conclusion of....

    It's great that they detected it, to ensure you don't have cervical cancer and if you do, chances are it's low grade, which means numbing you down there completely and then burning off any cancerous cells, ( I was talking to my gyno) the whole time I didn't realise he had even put a needle down there to numb it more? And, he burnt it all out..

    It sucks being a woman, it sucks not having Medical people share their knowledge, rather, just making statements that we don't understand.

    And, it sucks that they assume a 19 year old understands, their language.

    What ever the outcome, know that it's either low and nothing to worry about other than check ups every year to make sure, or 2nd degree like mine, so they will burn it off which is "nothing" like the colposcopy and doesn't hurt, but you may walk funny for a few days and bleed dark blood whilst it heals okay... but they can get it, irrespective because you are always being tested.

    You'll be perfectly okay.

    Please let me know how you go okay? I was like 40 or something... Your only 19... I can imagine the fear.. but don't... the tests they are doing are correct and they will note from this test exactly any extent and actions they have to take, as I said even if it's just check ups via a Pap Smear only every year for 3, then every 2 years..

    CW
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    you must believe!

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