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    Quote Originally Posted by red_berry View Post
    I'm in Canada and couln't find anything besides the Whey protein powders that people take and those have almost all the lactose removed. What I did find finally one night at the drugstore is called "Molkosan concentrated lactofermented whey" saying it contains concentrated (L+)-Lactic Acid. It's in liquid form and all I did was use one of those drugstore droppers and squirt some in 2 nights in a row and it's been gone ever since. I've had sex with my boyfriend since and no problems (would always get BV again the morning after sex). I finally ordered some whey after that's only 70% lactose but it was all I could find so i'm going to try that too, but if you are like me and can't find whey see if you can find the Molkosan, it worked!!

    Thanks SOOOOO much detective Sarah because without you I never would have thought to try any of these things and it feels so great to be so far free of this!

    Red Berry...Are you still BV free from using this liquid whey? This is the only whey I can find too. I'm in the US and I really want to try it if it works. How much of it do you use at once? Thanks in advance for any info.
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    One more question...Does it get rid of the odor and the discharge or just one of the symptoms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angie75 View Post
    Has anyone looked into Lactose milk sugar its made by ( NOW ) products and sold everywhere in the us. It is 100% lactose and really cheap also.
    This says it is almost as sweet is sugar...Will this cause yeast? Just wondering. I wasn't sure if whey is the same as this and the sugar part threw me off. Have you tried it yet?
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    No I have not tried it yet.. I was asking to see if mabey someone else has tried. But after reading about "Molkosan concentrated lactofermented whey" It sounds like It should work good. I did however order the BIO-FEM Instant Active Gel I was waiting on it to get here and then decide what whey product im going to use and start them both at the same time.
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    I Did find this article on lady balance website.

    Continuous administration of lactose to the vagina – possible side effects:

    Lactose is considered a nutrient – the lactic acid bacteria using it as nutrient source for the lactic acid fermentation. Would other microorganisms benefit from the continuous administration of nutrients?

    Yeast infection (Candida albicans and other Candida spp.) is the second widespread vaginal infection in women. How would continuous lactose administration affect yeast?

    Yeast is not controlable by low pH as is Gardnerella vaginalis (major cause of Bacterial Vaginitis). One should not expect a direct positive effect on yeast infection following acidification by lactose administration.

    All pathogenic Candida species are negative for lactose in assimilation and fermentation tests meaning that this particular sugar is not used by the yeast[1].

    All Candida species does assimilate glucose and some galactose , which are the first degradation products of lactose. Though, if lactose is taken up by lactic acid bacteria, these compounds are not released. Presumably there is no lactase activity in the mucosa to support breakdown of the lactose.

    Two years of continuos use of lactose for control of mal-odeur in the vagina did not present aggravated yeast problems. Some times during the period yeast symptoms were observed and treated by use of a clotrimazol cream direct to the affected area.

    This infection rate was considered normal to the trial person. Thereby the conclusion: No positive, but also no negative effects as to the occurrence of yeast infections.
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    Has anyone been prescribed these two treatments together? I am just trying to research anything new I haven't tried and I came across this. I have take metrogel and flagyl but I have never been given them together or at higher than normal doses.

    Recurrent or recalcitrant infections

    If patients are compliant but develop recurrent infections, treatment of their sexual partners should be confirmed.

    Cultures should be performed. In patients with documented persistent infection despite compliance with treatment by the patient and her partner(s), a resistant trichomonad strain may require high dosages of metronidazole (more than 2.5 g/d), often combined with intravaginal metronidazole suppositories prepared by a pharmacist (500 mg once or twice daily) for at least 10 days. Commercial preparations of metronidazole gel are not effective.
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    Sorry for all the posts...I have a question...What do you all think about all those books that promise to have the cure inside their book...Like the BV gone forever one? They are tempting because it seems like I have tried everything to get rid of this but then I think like what is going to be in the book that isn't already on the internet to read about...What do you all think?
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    Quote Originally Posted by angie75 View Post
    Has anyone looked into Lactose milk sugar its made by ( NOW ) products and sold everywhere in the us. It is 100% lactose and really cheap also.
    Angie75,

    As soon as I saw your post, I said that is something worth trying. I ordered it last week and it should arrive either today or tomorrow. I am going to try it and I will let you know if it works.

    Gaby
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    Hey! I haven't read all the posts but I just wanted to share what I know (sorry if its already been said before). I work in the medical field and here is what I know about BV. In the v-tract a balance exists between good bacteria and good yeast. When something throws this balance off you get either an overgrowth of yeast (yeast infxn) or overgrowth of bacteria (BV). Common causes that throw this balance off are acid imbalance, irritation from rough intercourse, harsh soaps (would recommend switching to a soap for sensitive skin--my doctor said that water is even enough to clean down there), douching, tampons even. Unfortunately, the only way to treat BV is through taking antibiotics (either orally or vaginally) because the bacteria gets trapped inside the cells that line the wall of the vagina. My recommendation here would be to make sure that you finish the entire course of antibiotics. If you are getting recurrent infections within a wk or so of stopping antibiotics, then you never got rid of the original infection. Ask your doctor to prescribe you a longer course of antibiotics (probably 14 instead of 7 days). The only other thing you can do is try to prevent infxns by avoiding triggers that would throw off your delicate balance. Also avoid wiping back to front...wipe front to back. Good luck!
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    Default Whey Yes! Drugs No!

    Those of you that like me have been suffering for years with this problem know that the antibiotics our doctors and other people reading a few posts and thinking they have our answer insist will kill this DO NOT work for us. In these cases we SHOULD NOT take antibiotics because all we are doing is increasing our chances of getting certain cancers, ruining our teeth, ruining our ability to fight other bacterial infections that antibiotics are supposed to cure especially after surgery. Antibiotics are neccessary when they are needed!! They DO NOT work for this!

    I've had this for almost 5 years, and at first, like many others on here, I took and took and took all the different combinations of drugs the doctors gave me, and it always came back, I didn't stop taking them before they were finished, I dealt with the side effects because I wanted to be cured, and I wasn't. The only thing that has worked in all this time is consistent taking of the Reuteri probiotics AND the fabulous Detective Sarah WHEY solution!! Other natural cures have worked for a short time.

    For awhile just taking the Reuteri worked, then it stopped working to fix it but would be even worse if I stopped the Reuteri. The vaginal vitamin C worked to fix it every time it came back but then they stopped making the stuff (regular vitamin c inserted does not work) and even if they hadn't it was always just a temporary fix until it came back, I tried every suggestion and product on here like the Hydrogen peroxide and they did not work, I tried this cala-gel which worked for a few weeks then stopped, nothing did (and trust me i've tried every suggestion on this forum-thank you everyone).

    Everything I own and wear is unscented and cotton, I am a clean hygenic person who YES wipes properly and showers regularly, I literally do everything I can, including trust me, anything anyone who doesn't deal with this can come up with! I've spent hundreds of dollars trying to fix this and while some of the things seemed to work for a while I NEVER realized that they didn't ever fix the problem until I tried the Molkosan and the whey, because the way I feel down there right now is something I forgot about long ago: NORMAL. It did come back after my period and using tampons which I think are one of the causes (but not the only one because I did try organic cotton pads only which made the problem less severe but it was still there, then organic cotton tampons only which also helped but did not cure) but I will not give them up if I don't have to because I hate pads, but as soon as I squirted some of the molkosan in there-gone the next day!

    I'll write a second post explaining the molkosan stuff you guys were asking me about
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