chronic bacterial vaginosis - Page 49

**Angelhalo052010** · 07-01-2009, 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gibsonsnod1

I was one of the special cases where the drugs wouldn't work anymore. I lived with the odor constantly for four straight years, and it would show up in the tests, except for the wiff test, that I had no infection. There wouldn't even be clue cells. I was just a "stinky girl" and no one, not even Johns Hopkins had answers.

I tried it all: pro-biotics, homeopathy, flagyl, cleocin, clyndomycin, metrogel, some weird stuff from india that looked like syrup, rephresh, vitamins, those green pills that give you diarrhea, douching (big no no, I know), I tried it ALL.

You know what's working? In total I've had recurring BV for ten years and you know what's working? It irritates me that something so simple could work and doctor's aren't telling us:

A light layer of Neosporin applied with the finger three times a day. NO ODOR. NONE. ALL OF THE MONEY THAT I'VE THROWN AT THIS AND THIS IS WHAT WORKS AND I HAD TO FIND OUT FOR MYSELF....I'm beyond irritated and relieved.

I hope that it works for you.

CAUTION: You have to use polyisoprene condoms with this, because latex condoms will break.

Get back to your life and try this, it's working for me.

I have never heard of using Neosporin before...Is it safe to use down there? I think I will try it because I can't stand being a "stinky girl" anymore. The doctors have also done tests on me too and they didn't show clue cells.

**Angelhalo052010** · 07-01-2009, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixling

Hi Angelhalo,

May I know is there any specific boric acid powder that only can be used?
It would be very helpful if you can give me the url link. This is because I doubt I can find it in my country.

Thanks a lot!

I ordered my boric acid from amazon.com..Maybe just google "boric acid powder" or go to your pharmacy to see if they sale it there.

**Angelhalo052010** · 07-01-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajohnstone

Hello Ladies,

I am 25 have been a sufferer of BV for a while now, almost on going for about 2 years.
I have finally booted that thing, and this is how i did it....

Recently i have got a new boyfriend, i am not sure whether this has anything to do with it! He does ejaculate inside me, and it dosent make any difference, we dont need to wear condoms.

I tried every single thing they had under the books, drinking apple cider vinegar, tried all the antibiotics, tried detoxing, tried going to naturopaths and changing my diet to lactose free, no dairy etc etc, changed my diet all in all, no sugar, no refined carbs etc. I tried acidpholous pills, i tried buying that femanol online, 6 months supply and getting it sent from america...i tried honestly everything, eating yoghurt, having garlic tablets, buying good bacteria suppositries, using condoms, changing contraceptive pills, showering before and after sex, even refusing to read the blogs on the web because it would bring me down...etc etc. EVERYTHING!

I have found 3 things that keep my BV away....
- 1 cup of apple cider vinegar to a bath (do not put alot of water in, just enough to be able to cover yourself) the more water you put in the more it halves the effectiveness of the vinegar. I do this once a week. Closer to my period i tend to do it twice a week.
- I take two goldenseal tablets a day (natural antibiotic instead of chemical stuff)
- I take two cranberry tablets a day (help to make the environment more acidic)
I have also changed my pill, i have done research and it appears that high estrogen pills show that alot of women on them have BV, i was on the yasmin contraceptive pill, now im on a low estrogen pill microgynon 20ED.
I am also trying to stay positive, with my new partner, i still get worried that dreadful smell or discharge is going to come back, but i have been with him almost 3 months now, and havent got it back, i used to get it to the point where after clearing it up, my partner and me would only have to have sex once for me to get it back. I dont douche, i only open myself up to clean myself out when i have that apple cider bath. Apart from that i dont touch!!!!
I also avoid sugar as much as i can, i LOVE lollies and sweets, and also bread, i try to eat bread only once a week now....i find the discharge comes back a little if i eat lots of sugar.

I hope this has helped ladies, like i said, im not sure if it was the change in partner, or the change in pill, or the change of not taking anymore acidopholous etc....but its working...i get the discharge a tiny bit, when it comes close to menstrual time...but apart from that, IM GREAT!

Hope i help you out, i thought after 3 months id get on here and let you all know, as i know exactly what it was like to go through what we all have!

BEST OF LUCK xx

How long did it take you to get rid of the smell and discharge while doing this regimen?

gibsonsnod1 · 07-01-2009, 07:21 PM

Well, I've been using it for five days now and have had no bad side effects. If you are hesitant ask your doctor first. I personally don't see how it could be any different than cleocin or any other mineral oil/petroleum based antibiotic, but who knows.

I have decided to attack my problem like a doctor would though, and bought a generic yeast cream kit with an applicator so I can put it in twice a day with more neosporin. I'm going to try ten days for starters and see what happens.

If I use it every day I might end up resistant to the antibiotics just like the other stuff. I guess that I'm saying moderation is my approach at this point. When I was doing the light layer, around hour six I would have mild symptoms. It just wasn't enough medicine. So, I think this new approach might bring some resolution to this. I'll keep you posted.

If it turns into a maintenance thing I'm ok with that too. It's a quality of life issue for me at this point.

gibsonsnod1 · 07-02-2009, 12:24 AM

Until tonight I was applying the neosporin with my finger, but bought the applicators today. Even though I had success with a thicker double application with my finger I thought that it would be more "clinical" to buy the applicators.

Well there was an extra step that I skipped tonight while using the applicator (one that I was doing before I added the Neosporin for odor control). I guess that I was trying to simplify this and say it was all the neosporin helping. Well, was spraying the neosporin on my finger with liquid crystal minerals that I bought from a wholefood store. I skipped that tonight. Well, this was an important step I found out.

The extra Neosporin in combination with the scraping of the plastic applicator and spreading it around caused some mild irritation. I thought, oh no, I was warned about this when I did research (rash/irritation). I was afraid that I would have to stop. Well then it hit me. This hasn't bothered me one bit for the past five days and all of a sudden it burns. I sprayed my finger a few times with the crystal minerals and mixed it around in there, and in five minutes I was fine.

So it's not just the Neosporin that's important. It's the combination of the two products that are working for me.

I know you're thinking...who is this crazy chick willing to wipe out all of her good bacteria and will end up with a chronic condition...blah blah blah...

WELL...I plan to follow up with a pro-biotic regime when I'm done. So, don't worry your pretty little head. I'm also paying close attention to my hearing levels and pain in my kidney area. I read somewhere that this can happen with internal neosporin use, but primarily with injections which is just a flat out no no. Well, I also did research about taking the ingredients orally that are in neosporin, and it can be done. The only thing that can't be done is injection with some of them.

The way I see it, is if you can use Neosporin on weeping bloody wounds, a mucous membrane isn't that different even though it does absorb quickly. I don't believe the levels that reach the bloodstream will be that different from a bad wound. Also, all of the active ingredients except for Bacitracin were approved in 2008 for a bladder irrigation solution. After further Bacitracin research I put my mind to rest.

Thanks for bringing it to my attention that I might hurt myself, but after six hours of research I feel confident and I've had no odor for two days now. I haven't had two consecutive days of no odor for four years. I feel like a new person.

YAY ME!

caramel504 · 07-03-2009, 07:58 PM

OK, so I'm on my last day of treatment. The odor is gone, the thick creamy discharge is gone. The discharge is now mucus-like, earlier this morning it was a very light green and now it's clear. Is this what it's like when it's clearing up from ya'll's experience? I wonder how I'll know when it's completely clear. I'm just hoping I don't develop a yeast infection from the antibiotics, b/c I fear the treatment from that will throw off the pH and I'll have to do all this all over again.

gibsonsnod1 · 07-07-2009, 04:36 PM

a green discharge is usually Trichomoniasis and is not Bacterial VAginosis. Metronidazole can be used to clear this infection however. This might be something entirely different for you so I'm not going to give you advice directly.

If I have a bacterial infection I have to be on antibiotics until I'm symptom free for three full days: meaning no odor. If I have the odor for any days less than three on the antibiotics it comes right back.

This however doesn't even apply anymore because I required such extended doses of Metronidazole and literally had to beg my doctor for extra medication when I moved and changed doctors. They low balled me for so long and so many times with not enough medication, that the bacteria became resistant. Thank you doctor, I'm glad that you took the fax from my previous doctor so seriously and permanently screwed up my life.

ajohnstone · 07-08-2009, 02:32 AM

Hi Angelhalo,

Well i split up with my ex and wasnt sexually active for about a month, so my body may have thanked me for the time to calm down a little.
Ummm i think with taking the goldenseal, apple cider baths, detox, and the month break...it was within the 4 weeks that it cleared up.
Goldenseal and the cider baths to be honest i think are what keeps it away. I can still enjoy a nice diet with sugar and stuff, not over the top like i used to....but this goldenseal is a natural antibiotic.
I guess our bodies have been overriden with this bacteria, it takes a little time for the body to heal and adjust, it wont happen over night.....
Ive been taking goldenseal and doing the baths ever since...i will not stop taking goldenseal, it works wonders. i take two capsules a day.

caramel504 · 07-08-2009, 10:09 AM

Well, yes, now I have the ever so lovely yeast infection, even after eating yogart and taking AZO yeast all through my Flagyl treatment. The discharge is like little tiny pieces of wet toilet paper. I saw my doctor yesterday and she said that I'm at the very start of the yeast infection, so she prescribed me Terazol.

Also, she prescribed me this product called AVC cream. She said it's a vitamin to help restore everything in my vagina. After reading all the posts I didn't see anyone talk about this, so many it's something we should look into. She said it's an old school remedy, the pharmacies didn't even have this medicine in stock. I'm going to try this, b/c she said it will heal me. Hopefully it works.

ErIya · 07-09-2009, 03:22 AM

Hi Caramel!
I'm so sorry to hear that, I know for me and a lot of other ladies that is a common side effect of those treatments. those harsh treatments combined with just all the stress of the whole ordeal can do it to you. But I have read some really encouraging things about people using AVC cream to prevent bv, be careful though because it is an antibiotic i think, is it the 30 day prescription? the stuff if supposed to work really well so im sure bv is not going to come back

do you have a kit to measure your pH at home? it might be a good way to track how you're doing... Relax and let yourself heal, and be sure to post how the AVC works!

07-01-2009, 07:21 PM	#484
gibsonsnod1 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4	My plan of action and answers about safety (Neosporin) Well, I've been using it for five days now and have had no bad side effects. If you are hesitant ask your doctor first. I personally don't see how it could be any different than cleocin or any other mineral oil/petroleum based antibiotic, but who knows. I have decided to attack my problem like a doctor would though, and bought a generic yeast cream kit with an applicator so I can put it in twice a day with more neosporin. I'm going to try ten days for starters and see what happens. If I use it every day I might end up resistant to the antibiotics just like the other stuff. I guess that I'm saying moderation is my approach at this point. When I was doing the light layer, around hour six I would have mild symptoms. It just wasn't enough medicine. So, I think this new approach might bring some resolution to this. I'll keep you posted. If it turns into a maintenance thing I'm ok with that too. It's a quality of life issue for me at this point.

07-02-2009, 12:24 AM	#485
gibsonsnod1 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4	Something more to add Until tonight I was applying the neosporin with my finger, but bought the applicators today. Even though I had success with a thicker double application with my finger I thought that it would be more "clinical" to buy the applicators. Well there was an extra step that I skipped tonight while using the applicator (one that I was doing before I added the Neosporin for odor control). I guess that I was trying to simplify this and say it was all the neosporin helping. Well, was spraying the neosporin on my finger with liquid crystal minerals that I bought from a wholefood store. I skipped that tonight. Well, this was an important step I found out. The extra Neosporin in combination with the scraping of the plastic applicator and spreading it around caused some mild irritation. I thought, oh no, I was warned about this when I did research (rash/irritation). I was afraid that I would have to stop. Well then it hit me. This hasn't bothered me one bit for the past five days and all of a sudden it burns. I sprayed my finger a few times with the crystal minerals and mixed it around in there, and in five minutes I was fine. So it's not just the Neosporin that's important. It's the combination of the two products that are working for me. I know you're thinking...who is this crazy chick willing to wipe out all of her good bacteria and will end up with a chronic condition...blah blah blah... WELL...I plan to follow up with a pro-biotic regime when I'm done. So, don't worry your pretty little head. I'm also paying close attention to my hearing levels and pain in my kidney area. I read somewhere that this can happen with internal neosporin use, but primarily with injections which is just a flat out no no. Well, I also did research about taking the ingredients orally that are in neosporin, and it can be done. The only thing that can't be done is injection with some of them. The way I see it, is if you can use Neosporin on weeping bloody wounds, a mucous membrane isn't that different even though it does absorb quickly. I don't believe the levels that reach the bloodstream will be that different from a bad wound. Also, all of the active ingredients except for Bacitracin were approved in 2008 for a bladder irrigation solution. After further Bacitracin research I put my mind to rest. Thanks for bringing it to my attention that I might hurt myself, but after six hours of research I feel confident and I've had no odor for two days now. I haven't had two consecutive days of no odor for four years. I feel like a new person. YAY ME!

07-07-2009, 04:36 PM	#487
gibsonsnod1 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 4	How I can tell the infection is gone a green discharge is usually Trichomoniasis and is not Bacterial VAginosis. Metronidazole can be used to clear this infection however. This might be something entirely different for you so I'm not going to give you advice directly. If I have a bacterial infection I have to be on antibiotics until I'm symptom free for three full days: meaning no odor. If I have the odor for any days less than three on the antibiotics it comes right back. This however doesn't even apply anymore because I required such extended doses of Metronidazole and literally had to beg my doctor for extra medication when I moved and changed doctors. They low balled me for so long and so many times with not enough medication, that the bacteria became resistant. Thank you doctor, I'm glad that you took the fax from my previous doctor so seriously and permanently screwed up my life.

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07-03-2009, 07:58 PM	#486
caramel504 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 9	OK, so I'm on my last day of treatment. The odor is gone, the thick creamy discharge is gone. The discharge is now mucus-like, earlier this morning it was a very light green and now it's clear. Is this what it's like when it's clearing up from ya'll's experience? I wonder how I'll know when it's completely clear. I'm just hoping I don't develop a yeast infection from the antibiotics, b/c I fear the treatment from that will throw off the pH and I'll have to do all this all over again.

07-08-2009, 02:32 AM	#488
ajohnstone Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3	Hi Angelhalo, Well i split up with my ex and wasnt sexually active for about a month, so my body may have thanked me for the time to calm down a little. Ummm i think with taking the goldenseal, apple cider baths, detox, and the month break...it was within the 4 weeks that it cleared up. Goldenseal and the cider baths to be honest i think are what keeps it away. I can still enjoy a nice diet with sugar and stuff, not over the top like i used to....but this goldenseal is a natural antibiotic. I guess our bodies have been overriden with this bacteria, it takes a little time for the body to heal and adjust, it wont happen over night..... Ive been taking goldenseal and doing the baths ever since...i will not stop taking goldenseal, it works wonders. i take two capsules a day.

07-08-2009, 10:09 AM	#489
caramel504 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 9	Well, yes, now I have the ever so lovely yeast infection, even after eating yogart and taking AZO yeast all through my Flagyl treatment. The discharge is like little tiny pieces of wet toilet paper. I saw my doctor yesterday and she said that I'm at the very start of the yeast infection, so she prescribed me Terazol. Also, she prescribed me this product called AVC cream. She said it's a vitamin to help restore everything in my vagina. After reading all the posts I didn't see anyone talk about this, so many it's something we should look into. She said it's an old school remedy, the pharmacies didn't even have this medicine in stock. I'm going to try this, b/c she said it will heal me. Hopefully it works.

07-09-2009, 03:22 AM	#490
ErIya Junior Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 11	Hi Caramel! I'm so sorry to hear that, I know for me and a lot of other ladies that is a common side effect of those treatments. those harsh treatments combined with just all the stress of the whole ordeal can do it to you. But I have read some really encouraging things about people using AVC cream to prevent bv, be careful though because it is an antibiotic i think, is it the 30 day prescription? the stuff if supposed to work really well so im sure bv is not going to come back do you have a kit to measure your pH at home? it might be a good way to track how you're doing... Relax and let yourself heal, and be sure to post how the AVC works!