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    I once read from two people who know male doctors personally, and they said that the doctor admitted to them that will often do unnecessary exams on young attractive women and that they can easily justify it. For example, a female patient may complain about a sore throat and end up having a breast exam, or she might complain of chest pain and end up having a pelvic exam. Other women may even be refused the pill unless they submit to a pap smear.

    Has this ever happened to you?

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    Other women may even be refused the pill unless they submit to a pap smear.
    This is a doctor thing not a male doctor thinking a young woman is attractive thing. Doctors can object to providing birth control should a patient not have their pap smear up-to-date or having never had one. Medically it is actually a very good idea to refuse providing the prescription if there is not a relatively recent pap smear as it is used as a preventative procedure which could find far more complicated issues with the patient.

    As for male doctors and attractive female patients I am sure it happens as there are always some bad apples however a patient should not believe this is the norm in practice. Should anything like that be leaked to staff or higher ups that individual could have their license revoked immediately and hence doctors are not in the game to just grope any attractive woman that comes around. Doctors are there to provide medical expertise and yes if a patient has not had a pap smear or recently done so even if they just come in for a check up the doctor can provide said medical procedure right there. Same applies to physical exams if there is medical reason to do so. If a patient is upset about a doctor providing more medical exams or procedures than what they expected to occur then ask questions. And if something is a very uncomfortable situation that a patient does believe there is something not right happening then it can be reported.
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    Why would this be only a male doctor with a female patient? How about a female doctor with a well built male patient? A gay doctor with a male patient? A lesbian doctor with a female patient? It may happen in a very small number of cases, but I believe most doctors act ethically in such situations.

    My primary physician is a lady because my wife and I have the same one and she is more comfortable with a woman. I think that my wife being more comfortable with a woman is probably relatively common amongst women if such a choice is available.
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    A male doctor is still a human male. I'm convinced that most men would watch porn if given a chance. So it don't surprise me that a male doctor would "enjoy" examining a good looking female. I've been checked out down there by male doctors twice. Both times I was so embarrassed that I never went back.

    The GYN I have now is female but I know she's gay, sometimes I get a little embarrassed with her. Because I know she's gay, I would be aware of any of any extra touching. The last thing I would ever do is accuse her of impropriety.

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    Honestly the last thing a doctor wants is a malpractice suit or accusations that can make them lose their license. Becoming a doctor was hard work and they are not about to just willy nilly give it up by feeling up a patient for pleasure whether they are male or female. Sometimes though patients can be embarrassed that they think the touching is inappropriate in general when really it was strictly by the books and properly done. If a patient is uncomfortable such as a woman not wanting a male GYN then all they have to do is ask and a new physician will be used.
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    The question isn't whether or not the doctor would do something to lose his licence, the question is do doctors enjoy examining a beautiful female, and do they sometimes do unnecessary exams if they can get away with it? I've heard this does happen by people who know doctors personally, i.e friends or family members.

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    the question is do doctors enjoy examining a beautiful female, and do they sometimes do unnecessary exams if they can get away with it? I've heard this does happen by people who know doctors personally, i.e friends or family members.
    To answer this you would need to ask every single male practitioner in practice, if you do not then you are left with what you are personally told and left to determine your opinion based on what you know. We cannot answer this because we are not the doctors in question, a patient given an exam is led to believe the exam is a procedure prompted by the doctor for medical reasons and not for pleasure seeking reasons. A patient is not the doctor so they do not know the ins and outs of when to give x exam over y so they must trust the doctor's choice in providing certain exams and not think that the exam is just the doctor trying to get away with something. Asking a group of people if a male doctor is going to enjoy giving a physical to a young attractive female is going to yield the "well probably because he is a male and they tend to like young female bodies" response. If a female physician had Brad Pitt come in you would need to ask her if she enjoyed giving that exam. What matters is the level of professionalism. I could enjoy giving Brad Pitt a physical in the general scheme of it all but there would always be a level of professionalism that would come first.
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    Since when is unethically linking two medical services, a pap smear and birth control, a (medically) "good idea"?
    How is it unethical? When a woman has never had a pap smear or has not had one in a long time a doctor has no idea what state their patient's body is in with regards to the potential of that patient having cancerous growths so the doctor wants to know and hence mentioning that an exam is highly recommended or needed. It really is not uncommon for a doctor to say a patient needs to have a pap smear because it is a precautionary or preemptive strike against such potential cancerous cells. Not all doctors follow this route but they will bring home the point that a pap smear is very highly recommended.

    A pap smear is an awful diagnostic (error rates) that is administered far too frequently (efforts to address false negatives create false positive problem).
    Far too frequently? How else is one supposed to find potentially lethal cancer cells growing in a tissue within the body? A pap smear is a quick and relatively painless procedure that has the hopes of negative results each time. If one lab result says there is a potential issue there is a second or third follow up procedure done to check. The issues of false positives are there with anything but there are steps taken such as multiple follow ups over time.

    And stealing a woman's right to control her reproduction by withholding what should be OTC anyway injures the woman AND her husband.
    A woman has every right to control her reproduction which is why multiple venues of preventing pregnancies are available. Things like a condom, diaphragm, spermicides, sponges, and pulling out (not really recommended).

    If you attempted to coerce my wife into invasive physical exams for less than scientific reasons (what is it about paternalism and the thrill of intimate access to OPP that attracts?), I would have your license, sue you for damages on behalf of me and my wife and turn you over to my insurer and state authorities for wire fraud (unnecessary billing).
    Then it s a good thing that the pap smear itself is based entirely on a scientific backbone. Should a doctor act less than professional then yes they can be sued, I would think many individuals would sue if that happened to them but it really does not happen that often. If someone is terrified of everything and anything about a doctor that patient can request a new physician or have a nurse in the room at the time of the procedure to calm any nerves.

    We are moving to a point where pelvic exams cease, mammograms end clinical breast exams and home hpv DNA testing (done on a 5 year interval takes out pap).
    I am confused. Are you pushing for this movement of, in your opinion, essentially useless exams or do you mean that this movement is already happening? If you are pushing for no exams such as the ones you mentioned please provide the alternative to patients who need to find out if they have cancer or not, an abnormality or not, infections or not, tumors or not and so on. I am quite curious.

    Then maybe we can end the theater that is women's wellness and redirect the billions to medical technology that actually works. Sex organ surgeons providing "wellness" is exactly why cv disease kills more women than all cancers combined. Stick to babies and plumbing problems please.
    I am confused again. Can you please describe what you mean by "theater that is woman's wellness and redirect the billions to medical technology that works". As well as what you mean by sex organ surgeons sticking to babies and plumbing.
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    As a nurse that has seen her share -- of everything -- after a while it just all becomes another patient to look at and determine what the medical issues are.There are protocols and procedures for each type of visit and yes birthcontrol may/should necessitate a gyno exam, complete with pap smear as cancer cells can be exacerbated by the pill. I would suggest this is then a necessary part of the visit.
    And re: men, after a while in the hospital you see it all, the big the small, the thin, erect, not erect etc. etc. It's a job.

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