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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    I don't believe there was anywhere where, it was stated "viewing porn, on-going", even a confident woman, agreed would perhaps start to feel a tad in-secure if it was on-going...

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    I think maybe you need to reread the original post - or even just the title of this thread.

    This is what I'm responding to.

    I would also suggest to you that there are very few men who watch porn but don't do it repeatedly. Men who watch porn do so in an ongoing fashion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awcmon View Post
    I think maybe you need to reread the original post - or even just the title of this thread.

    This is what I'm responding to.

    I would also suggest to you that there are very few men who watch porn but don't do it repeatedly. Men who watch porn do so in an ongoing fashion.
    And, I will state, please be careful in the manner in which you chose to reply to any posters on this site...


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    Quote Originally Posted by awcmon View Post
    Well I'm not sure what either of you mean by moralistic. If you mean that they may morally decide that porn violates their sense of morality - that is, what's right/wrong - then maybe.

    But just so I understand -

    Are you really suggesting that any woman who opposes must be a prude, insecure, or jealous?? Is that really your stance?

    I believe, "as a woman" I have a good understanding on how the majority of women feel, think when it comes to their man.... I am suggesting, that some of those are the issues yes, suggesting and stating some.

    I'd have to say that's extremely judgmental & narrow-minded -

    Well that is your opinion... however, your basing it on 1 paragraph, I could turn around and say is that how you judge people? But, that to me would be judging...

    And Married - sorry to burst this bubble. We can disagree on whether or not we would tolerate porn -

    But men absolutely desire the women they look at in pornography. If they aren't desirable to them - they don't look. There's a reason people look at one picture/video/site over another - because they desire what they find there.


    I'm not sure what you're trying to convince me of here. You do get that I am not suggesting your husband doesn't desire you, right? I haven't said there's anything wrong with you & your husband watching porn.

    Just clarifying that what's okay for you isn't the rule by which all rational women must live.

    The suggestion that all women who oppose porn in their marriages are either prudish, insecure, or jealous is very short-sighted.

    Just to clarify, again..... Married15 did not make that comment.

    And, I believe that I have answered that.

    Perhaps those who are afraid to confront their husband's use of porn & make a clear stance on what they will accept are sheltering some insecurities.

    Have a read at various threads here, seeing as you are new....

    I can't recall one woman whom has not made it very clear, on what she will or won't accept from their S/0 and have confronted them... Certainly, most, that are up-set about porn within a relationship, didn't know upon entering the relationship as the S/0 did not tell them.


    Porn is indeed the problem for couples in which one partner does not want the other to watch it. Until you step outside & recognize that there are women who feel differently than you do, you will have a very limited ability to understand how this issue impacts many women.
    I believe that you may wish to review Married15's comments there as well pertaining to that last statement. She has stated and I highlighted clearly, very clearly that she as a woman understands that "all" feel differently about Porn.

    I also think, as a woman, we, as women have various friends of the same sex, we all talk and therefore, our knowledge is really not limited at all..

    And, as a women, certainly we understand the inpact of "pain and hurt"...


    Hope that clarifies my thoughts on the matter, as "my opinions", relating to what you have specifically asked me.

    I am sure you have some very valid points and it appears you do but as I stated:-

    It is a topic that will be different to all, on how they view.

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    Last edited by CHANDLERS WISH; 02-18-2009 at 01:31 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH View Post
    And, I will state, please be careful in the manner in which you chose to reply to any posters on this site...


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    You think my posts have been inappropriate somehow, I assume?
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    Quote Originally Posted by awcmon View Post
    You think my posts have been inappropriate somehow, I assume?

    What I think? Personally? Some of what you say is my belief, thoughts, so stay with us.

    Some of what you say makes sense, it's interesting, so stay with us.

    Some of what you say is "point blank" at someone almost, which is against rules.

    Keep writing...

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    Wow, okay all I can say now WOW. It truly amazes me that when a confident woman stands up and says "hey guess what I used to be insecure until I realized it was up to ME to change it, not up to my husband to change anything"..Yeah it is up to the individual, no one can make you feel anyway you do not wish to feel! That is a choice, a individual choice!

    As far as if a guy looks at porn once somehow it turns to abuse! Well I say then no one is ever allowed to have a beer after work, or a glass of wine. Cause doing it just once means you will abuse it!

    Geesh! whatever, I have stated my stace and obviously it makes no difference it's always going to be the mans fault! I guess it is up to men to MAKE us women feel good!Wrong!
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    Well, thanks. I never intended to leave.

    Just so I understand the rules completely - where did I give you the impression I was posting something "against" anyone else?

    I have read through this thread - prior to joining & posting. I think this girl has gotten bad advice. There's even someone in here who said she should literally just "get over it."

    All I have done was to offer that her feelings are shared by many women and they are valid.

    I feel as though what you & Married have said is that women who feel like she does are either prudes, jealous, or insecure. I feel like that is offensive.

    You seem to believe I have been offensive, though. I guess I'd like to understand that.

    I wonder what I would think if I was this girl, desperate & hurting over this issue, and I came here for help. And what people said about me was that I must be insecure or jealous, that I lack confidence, and that I should just get over it.

    I think I would leave feeling much worse than when I came - and probably never come back.
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    Perhaps those who are afraid to confront their husband's use of porn & make a clear stance on what they will accept are sheltering some insecurities

    Holy , you can't be serious ...Can You???

    Are you a democrate?
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    So you would rather us sugar coat reality? In order to please the ears...Nope thats not me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Married15 View Post
    Wow, okay all I can say now WOW. It truly amazes me that when a confident woman stands up and says "hey guess what I used to be insecure until I realized it was up to ME to change it, not up to my husband to change anything"..Yeah it is up to the individual, no one can make you feel anyway you do not wish to feel! That is a choice, a individual choice!

    As far as if a guy looks at porn once somehow it turns to abuse! Well I say then no one is ever allowed to have a beer after work, or a glass of wine. Cause doing it just once means you will abuse it!

    Geesh! whatever, I have stated my stace and obviously it makes no difference it's always going to be the mans fault! I guess it is up to men to MAKE us women feel good!Wrong!
    No, you're exactly right about that. But I think women are entitled to have reactions, which include feelings. If my spouse spit in my face, I would feel bad. I own my feelings, but that would be an understandable reaction wouldn't it?

    I guess when I saw this thread & read what the original poster wrote, I didn't understand that her fiance only looked at porn one time. The title suggests he was addicted, which means something very different to me.

    Would it be possible for you & I to say that we feel differently and both of our perspectives are okay, even though they are different?

    I'm sensing a lot of aggression in your posts. You seem to be really angry that anyone would feel the way I do. But I don't mind you feeling the way you do about porn...

    I wonder why we can't just have different opinions and that be okay.

    Strange...
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