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    Background: I am 25 weeks pregnant with our first child, and I will admit I have not had much of a sex drive while pregnant. Before getting pregnant, sex for me and my husband had decreased in frequency because I had 2 cone biopsies and a LEEP procedure, so I couldn't have sex for weeks at a time. At several points while DH and I were dating, I found porn sites in his browsing history and was actually asleep in the next room one night while he masturbated in front of the computer. Why couldn't he come in and see if I was interested?

    Anyways, I've always considered myself to be open about sex/porn with whomever I'm in a relationship. I can tell that my husband is not as comfortable talking about sexual issues. When I brought up his internet porn history, I told him to just delete it so I wouldn't see it and I would appreciate him not masturbating 12 hours or less after we had sex. Fine, he started clearing his browsing history. I eventually bought some videos for us to watch together and he eventually shared his video clip collection for us to enjoy together. Videos which he claimed were acquired during college and all free clips.

    A few months before I got pregnant, I realized he was making a habit of getting up early so he could watch porn and masturbate in front of the computer. I called him on it, very nicely I might add, and he said that he did it because we weren't having sex as often and that the porn wasn't important to him and he would stop. However, he also said that I was sending him mixed signals by buying porn videos for us. I said it's one thing for us to enjoy together, it's something else for him to sneak off while he thinks I'm asleep to watch God knows what and again sometimes the morning after we had sex.

    Well, I ordered some Skin So Soft oil a few days ago and found a bunch of oil spots around his computer--gees I wonder why. Not only that, but when he got up in the morning, I heard him open up one of our porn DVD cases that we keep in the bedroom before heading downstairs. I found the disk hidden in another disc sleeve at his desk. WTH?? I put the disk back in its case, so this morning he reached for his trusty hard drive which I explored--there are hundreds of video clips and there was even a receipt. Free clips huh? I've actually felt a little friskier this week and I have been very physically affectionate with him as well. He knows I'm usually friskiest in the morning, yet that's the time he never tries--he just heads straight down to his computer.

    I'm getting so tired of bringing this up with him. I deleted some of his videos because I was so MAD. Anytime I do bring it up, I don't feel like he's being honest with me. I don't feel like he is capable of completely relaxing when we have sex, only when he uses porn to masturbate. There have been times in our history when he couldn't climax through sex and had to finish himself off and even then had a hard time. I truly think it's because he can only feel sexually comfortable with the computer. I fear that me constantly having to bring this up is only going to distance us, yet knowing what he's sneaking off to do might cause me to distance myself from him anyways. I guess my biggest issue is that no matter what we do in the bedroom or how often we do it, or how open I am about porn/toys, etc., he can't stay away from the computer. I don't know what to do anymore.
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    It sounds like he's desensitized himself enough that it's hard for him to climax without the friction of his (or your) hand.

    If you told him to at least delete the history so you don't have to see it, that's not telling him not to do it. Setting an hour rule of "no masturbation within 12 hours of sex with me". Why? What's that rule for? Seems like one made to be broken.

    I think you need to have a heart to heart with him. You're pregnant, you're going to be feeling all sorts of things and you need his support. He needs to understand how this is making you feel. But you first need to decide how you feel about it. You can't tell him one minute, you don't care but just to delete the history of it so you don't see it (no one makes you check the history though right? , and then the next minute be angry with him for doing it.

    Me? Personally? I'd be highly offended if my husband routinely chose that over me. BUT, if he knew you had been feeling cruddy, and you're not initiating it with him, I can see where he'd think "Eh..I'm just not gonna bother her..".

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    When I told him to delete his browsing history, we were just dating, and I wasn't checking it--everytime I opened a new tab in IE, it would show his most frequently visited/recently visited sites. Since then, I have had multiple heart to hearts with him about his making a morning habit of it, and he says he'll stop but he just keeps going back. I told him that I already felt insecure because of the cervical procedures I had, and it just made me feel worse about myself when he turns to the porn. Why can't he just do it in the shower? Why does he have to watch the videos without me? I never set a "rule" of 12 hours--I merely told him that his masturbating the morning after we had sex the night before made me feel like the sex wasn't good enough for him.

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    I never set a "rule" of 12 hours--I merely told him that his masturbating the morning after we had sex the night before made me feel like the sex wasn't good enough for him.
    Ahh, I see. That makes more sense. I can understand that perspective. I just didn't get the "12 hour" thing.

    and it just made me feel worse about myself when he turns to the porn
    I can also understand that. I think many women here can relate to that.

    I have mixed feelings about porn. But I do know that deep down in my heart if the man I loved was turning to that instead of me, or treating it as some sort of addiction or sneaky habit, I'd be devastated. I'd also be devastated if he jumped out of the bed in the mornings to go partake in that, rather than sharing that time with me. I'm pretty sure I'd be disgusted by it actually.

    So if you feel like you've exhausted your efforts talking to him, then there's not a lot you can do. Maybe try a different way of communicating. Maybe type up something on a word document, expressing your feelings of hurt, betrayal, low self esteem, etc etc as a result of this behavior and leave it pulled up on the screen so in the morning when he goes to do his thing, it's the first thing he'll see. Sometimes when "talking" doesn't do the trick, you have to communicate in a different way. I just think there's a chance he see's this as more you "nagging" or trying to control him, and he needs to realize to what extent this is affecting you. This time should be such a happy time for you, being pregnant and all.....

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    When your partner gets out of bed to masturbate in secret and he does so repeatedly, after you've told him you want more sex with him, it's disgusting indeed. It's not porn that's disgusting or masturbation, but the whole act together. Being sneaky, but not sneaky enough, lying, saying one thing today another thing the next day... it can make one crazy.

    You've talked to him. He knows you know what he does. It hasn't stopped him from doing the same. Playing cat and mouse won't solve it either.

    It is possible that during the time you couldn't have sex due to health issues he returned to porn and now he's stuck with it again. It probably also has to do with the time when he couldn't finish without his hand, as it can make him feel anxious to perform every time, even if years have passed since then.

    My advice, as someone who's lived with such a person (I wouldn't call such a person 'a man') for nearly 3 years: Stop looking for proof. You don't need it anymore and he won't stop because you find proof of this. At best he'll learn to hide it better, but he won't stop just like that.

    You can show him articles about masturbation and how it affects a man's sex life. You can write him a letter. You can have a serious talk outside, not at home. But these options have low chances of success. What would help him more is if a third party told him about this, a doctor for example. Usually, the more you talk to him the more he'll keep his thoughts to himself and even avoid sex all together because "you've figured him out" and that makes him even more embarrassed to discuss sex, because he feels he's not good enough so he might as well skip sex.

    However, what I'd like to learn more about your case, which you haven't mentioned much, is how was sex before your pregnancy and after dating? Did you have sex often, did he enjoy it, did he ever say anything that could hint he wanted to do something different? If you don't have sex as often as he'd like you to then he can only turn to masturbation and it should not bother you as much because he doesn't have another choice.

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    Update: Friday night we had sex--as I mentioned earlier, I'm finally at the stage of my pregnancy where I'm feeling sexier, friskier, etc. It was ok, but I couldn't help but picture him in front of his computer for most of the time. Saturday morning before getting out of bed, I tried to stimulate him manually, and lo and behold, he had to finish himself. I pretty much lost it and told him we had a problem. He insisted it was only difficult because we had sex the night before, sometimes he has a hard time in the morning, I don't do that very often (because I've never been able to make him climax manually). One excuse after another, which I told him was not consistent with what he's told me before and is most definitely not consistent with his morning computer ritual.

    He said he understood how I felt, but I said I didn't want to hear any more excuses because I've heard them before and nothing changed. I said I needed him to show me that he understands and to respect my feelings. He did make a couple of comments about how we haven't had much sex the last 12 months, so he had to take care of himself. First of all, excuse me for getting a Pap smear and trying to prevent myself from getting cervical cancer!! Second of all, I completely understand his need to take care of himself if I can't do it for him, BUT why does it have to happen the way it does...sneaking downstairs in the morning to watch videos in front of his computer? He can't do it in the shower? Plus, the baby's coming soon so we're going to have another rough patch and I want to know he's not going to handle it the same way because with all the distance we've had between us so far, I'm afraid if he continues, we won't be able to get back to a healthy place.

    He doesn't want to be compared to other guys I've dated, but I've never had this problem before and I've certainly never had a problem stimulating a man with my hand. I told him that I want us to be open about our sex life and to explore new things, videos or whatever, together. But if he's constantly sneaking off, it feels to me like he has his own secret little sex life that he doesn't want me to be a part of. Is it weird for me to feel that way?

    stressed: Before the issues with my cervix, we had great sex very frequently! He would still masturbate sometimes because he said his libido was geared up, which I understood, but he didn't always use videos and he was open with me about it for the most part. He certainly didn't have a problem with climaxing more than once in a day, as was his excuse for Sat morning. Anytime he has a problem, I notice it's usually associated with one of his computer romps. Also, before we started dating, he went through about a 2 year dry spell, so he probably developed this very bad habit during that time.

    He did say something about him masturbating since he was a teenager, so I should be mad at his 14 year old self, to which I replied "I didn't marry 14 year old you"! I honestly don't know if anything will come of our conversation. I never asked him to get rid of his videos because I figured we could watch them together, but I feel like I might have to ask him to get rid of his private stash if things don't change. I know, he's always got the internet.

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    I have never orgasmed from a woman masturbating me. From the experiences I have had in the past, if some of them were to milk a cow as roughly, the cow would have surely kicked them. Some other guy could have felt pleasure, but not I. You need to work with him and listen to what he is saying to get him to a point you can manually bring him to orgasm. Why did you lose it when you couldn't manually bring him to orgasm when it had never worked in the past? Have you told him about your past abilities with your hand? Generally you should not bring up past relationships, but if you do, only say how this one is superior.

    What accommodations have you made for his masturbation other than wanting him to do it in the shower? What about the showers would get him going (some guys may like them, but for the most part I think that they interfere more than help - standing, with water hitting you, with your feet cold)? Is the shower where the two of you always had sex? Guys like pictures or at least some peeks. Have you done anything to stimulate him visually with visions of you?

    How often did you two have sex before you got married, how often after, how often before the biopsies, how often after, how often after pregnancy and how often now? He has said that he wants more sex per your description, several times. It sounds like porn and masturbation has become old reliable for him in your relationship as it probably was during his single days.

    If he was totally honest with you about porn, could the two of you rationally talk it out to a point where he would buy into the limits imposed. Would they be his limits, too, or would they be your limits that he assented to, but not really?
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    It sounds like you do want more sex with him, but it also sounds like there's been quite some time when you weren't like this too (there were health issues, times when you couldn't, it's understandable). He mentioned he would have liked to have sex more often the last 12 months, that means that he didn't lose interest, but you did.

    When his excuses change it's because he can't tell you the truth, either because he doesn't want to hurt you or because he doesn't feel comfortable admitting the truth. Not all men climax with a handjob, that is true. If his hand works is because he's used to it and he knows what feels good for him. He could show you and guide you as to what feels good when you do it, but this will also require patience and a lot of trial and error to happen. It's not your fault and it would take a lot of work for him to make it happen with your hand, if it can ever happen (it just doesn't work for everyone).

    You don't want him sneaking downstairs and the only option you've suggested so far has been the shower. The shower doesn't work for everyone either, many men say they can't do it in the shower. You seem to mind porn more than him masturbating and the way your relationship has been it could be a result of low self-confidence (because I don't see what other choices he had when he wanted more sex and you couldn't give that to him). Yes, you're different now, you want more sex, you want to experiment, but I see that this relationship has had problems on the subject and he must have not had his needs satisfied for a while, which led him to porn, then porn became a habit, and now this habit hard to quit.

    You don't need to tell him you had it better in any way with an ex, because when you say so you're looking for reassurance due to your own doubts, you don't help him. It doesn't help. You know it's not your problem, he knows that too. He doesn't need to confirm that you're a good lover by your past experiences. It's this relationship that matters.

    You don't like "the way" it happens, but at this pace it will happen anyway and the "way" doesn't really matter. If you don't have a stable sex life and if you don't communicate and listen to each other things like that are bound to happen. It could have been the other way around, it's not a "male thing" only. Listen to him more, offer more suggestions than the shower and try not to get mad at him during any sexual act. It's always better to discuss it the next day or so, never while it's happening.

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    Well as for you husband sneeking off, it could be that he's embarrassed. For most people masterbation is a private thing. As for him using porn to masterbate, for most men it is a stimulant just as a vibrator for a woman. It seems that he still desires you, but the porn has become some what of a habit. As your availibility for sex increases and he becomes more involved with you, his use of porn may decline. It does seem that you both may benifite from some communication tho. There are books and classes available to help with this that are not sexual in nature, but help to teach skills used in all communication. Those skills are universal to all subjects and conflic resolution. The benifit of them not being sexual specific is it would be easier to get him to go as an enhancement to your relationship without putting pressure on him.

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    Oh and congratulations on your pregnacy. As for my wife and I it drove me nuts when she was pregnant. She became preclamsic and couldn't really have sex very often and to me she looked sooo beautiful. It drove me nuts that sex was off, but we learned a lot about intamcy with out sex. Once again though communication is key.

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