lol! how is it cheating if they know about it! it is hardly cheating if they have agreed it with each other first!

Now find someone else to argue with their is no point talking to you!

wow.

that's just...

wow.

She's got a point there. <shrug>

If both people subscribe to an open marriage, then c'est la vie.

Willy, you sure can rattle off a lot of porn stars of the top of your head, lol!

it is a point. not a valid one.

but a point.

the issue is ethics - do they actually exist? or do they morph, depending on what mood we might be in?

i would say our attitudes, choices, opinions have no bearing on whether or not something's right or wrong.

many would say i'm wrong on that.

Please go to Dr. Harley's Web Page: **** edit by WH admin - linking to external sites not allowed **** When you arrive at his Web Page at the top, enter in Basic Concepts (menu driven), afterwards, you will view the following two links on the left side of the Basic Concepts Page.

1. "The Policy of Joint Agreement"
2. "The Policy of Radical Honesty"

Dr. Harley also has valuable info. regarding instincts and habits as well as various addictions.

I have been reading and following Dr. Harley's advice for years. A few years ago, I asked my soon to be Ex-husband to read Dr. Harley's literature and to take his valuable advice to try and salvage our marriage. (I asked my husband to please give up the PORN and focus on our marriage, romance, passion, the children etc...) Dr. Harley's advice works immensely if both parties in the marriage agree and therefore abide by the rules. Unfortunately, my ex-husband did not want to follow Dr. Harley's free and fabulous advice!

Perhaps this advice can help others!

G-D Bless
Gia