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    So many threads are about:
    Love
    Cheating
    Being screw over
    What should I do about…….

    What I usually get out of those is that it always revolves around love. So maybe this thread can help others like some other threads might have helped.

    What is love?
    Love to me is a lot of things. Its something that cant be explained to an exact phrase or words. The other person you love is all that matters. No matter how attractive another is, the one you love is always the most attractive to you. It just something you feel. Its how happy one makes you feel as in when you meet someone how often do you think of them? Do you get a feeling inside of you that makes no sense? Do you find that you think of them all the time when your not together, missing them? And most important, you just cant waite to see them again.
    You can tell that not a lot of things make you as mad or upset as the other person next to you. Being silly is fun and you laugh at almost anything. Your conversations just flow on any subject, even if they are about stupid things.

    I have said before that I fell in love 2 times. And actually only 2 people here know some of the story. But I thought I was in love when I was dating them, but knew it after we broken up. I knew this because I find it hard to move forward at times. I think of her a lot, especially when there is some kind of holiday, event or when something comes up and reminds of her, such as something on tv, radio, or maybe even a picture or a place. We all been there and we think of our friends from the past or family. But for some reason we understand about them not being in our life anymore or very little. But when you think of your ex out of the blue for no reason at all, it isn’t that it was a lot time together, its because you actually was in love in them.

    Friends come and go in our life. Some remain and become great ones. Some can be life long friends. But they are just friends and we know at one time or another they will meet someone and start to hang out with the one they date. They may even move away or out of state. And we accept that as that happens. Our parents are usually there for us all the time. They should pass away before we do and we accept that too. But when you love someone and they leave us we usually have a harder time accepting that. It isn’t the fact of being alone, but because we feel for them differently than our friendship or family.

    Cheating / flirting:
    Friends with benefits is one thing. Going out and having a one night stand is one thing. And having a relationship that is open is one thing. But how can one say they love another and cheat? That isn’t love. Cheating is a form of selfishness. It is human to think of another as pretty or handsome. We all dated someone and thought another is very attractive. I think its normal and human to think this. But like I said above, if you love someone, noone else matters. I don’t see it being wrong to say someone else is attractive but I have a saying and I thinkits a fair one, “YOU CAN WINDOW SHOP, JUST DON’T TOUCH THE MERCHANDISE”.
    What I don’t understand is how some people can just ask if what they did was cheating. Come on now, if it contains doing something to another other than your wife/husband/girlfriend/boyfriend, then it is cheating. What I mean by that is if you go to your relatives house and give them a peck on the cheek for hello/goodbye, no big deal right? And we do that with our friends or someone we first meet. But to kiss someone with the tung and touch them where you normally don’t touch people, (gropeing) then you are cheating.
    Think of it this way, are you going to slip you sister the tung or touch her breasts? No! so if you do that to others while dating someone, guess what, you cheated.
    There is a difference between cheating and flirting also. But flirting has to have limits of some sort.

    Being screwed over:
    We all been in that boat before. Hopefully for the one and last time. It’s a shame people are the way they are these days. The morals and values have no meaning anymore. Our parents and grandparents had them. And each generation seems to lose more of it each day. Society has little meaning of values. It has become more acceptable to be in open relationships and stuff like that. Whos to really blame? Some may say tv because the soap operas, movies for excitement. Who knows for sure.
    But we had or are going to get screwed over in our lives. We have to try to be strong. We go to our friends for advice and some of it is great advice and some not. Its what other may do and it might work for them but not everyone. Some dwell more than other, some rebel and are vengeful. But again, we fall. If you fall that saying is true about what doesn’t kill us will only make us stronger. And when we get back up, brush the dirt off our clothes, we actually stand a lot taller than before. And that shows a lot.
    So for all who have been screwed over, start standing upright and be noticed that you are stronger than before.

    What should I do?
    Take advice from those who know you best, know the situation best. If you have to question things then something can point to yourself. But that doesn’t mean it always does. If you have a conscience it usually tells you right from wrong. If you have a heart, it usually tells right from wrong. Your gut feelings is almost correct 99.5% while your second guesses might be correct .05%. the saying trust your gut feeling…….. do just that. Talk to people and get thing off your chest and clear your mind. Possible seek help from professionals. These are just some of the things one can do. But most of all, always be yourself and try to clear your mind of the bad. Your happiness is your life, make it a happy one.
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    The first part of this literally had me in tears. I have loved many people, but but been, "in love" only a few times, it's always ended up a painful experience. Then I resolve that it's better to love than be in love and that it's better to find someone who seems compatible and to have relationship that will have fewer highs (if any) and avoid the lows. It's never worked. My current situation may be the most painful I've had in some ways. I did fall and hard. Somehow I always manage to find a man who can't or won't love me. This one simply chooses not to love, at least not to acknowledge it because he's been hurt before, he is determined it won't happen again. Unfortuately this didn't kick in full force until he had pulled me in and showed me what he could be as a lover and a freind. Then when he realized where he was going he slammed the walls down. He may be protecting himself, but it's tearing me apart.

    The things people will do to each other and themselves over love are astonishing. I know it can be wonderful, it should be, somehow we humans manage to mangle it. I really don't understand why it has to be so complicated and difficult. I've been screwed around on, screwed over, taken to the cleaners, taken down the garden path, used, abused, and misused. Something in me won't let me give up. For some crazy reason I keep trying, keep coming back for more, keep thinking that this time will be different. It's always another kind of hurt.

    I can feel your vision of love JWB, have experienced it, but it's been one sided. They apparently get caught in my emotion and enjoy it for a while but don't share it and it doesn't last, because one person can't sustain it indefinitely. It needs reciprocation to flourish. It needs two loving and nurturing it to keep it going. For myself, when I love, cheating isn't possible, that man so fills my heart and desire that there isn't room to feel desire for another. SO I understand what you are saying about that. Time reduces the intensity and eventually the pain of rejection fades or perhaps numbs is a better term. Taking the leap to trust and open up to loving again is a gamble. How many times do you take the plunge and lose before you quit trying? When you are young, it's painful but you have time on your side. As you get older, it's no less painful but you know you can't afford to wallow in it, you know how quickly time and life can slip by.

    None of this is new, go back and read some of the classics Chaucer, Shakespeare, Balzac, the old myths of the gods and goddesses and all that they suffered for love and in relationships. There aren't really any older and better morals. They just put up a better front, didn't talk about it, splash it across the morning news. There have been periods of history when there was no way out of a loveless or unhappy relationship (well Henry the eighth found a way - I'd prefer to avoid that LOL) people stuck it out because there weren't any legal options. They had different expectations, marriage wasn't about love - it was a political or financial alliance in the power classes and a often the same but on a lower scale for the peons. Are we better off now, coming together for love? The divorce rate may not seem so but if 50% fail then 50% succeed, they find a way to make it work. Some of them are happy and some just seem to have a habit or something.

    I get the feeling that, like myself, you have a vision of what could be, in a good relationship where there is real love and passion. That is what opens us up to be hurt but it is also what keeps us going, isn't it? That desire and vision - knowing what you have the potential for, if you can find the right person to share it. I wish I could offer answers to how, I'm still searching for them myself. It's often easier to see it for others than for yourself. I've watched one of my nephews go through a painful divorce and seen him find the love he wanted and needed and almost leave her. They found a way and I believe he is very happy now, with a loving partner and two beautiful children. It can happen. I believe it will happen for you. You have a good heart.
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    always be yourself and try to clear your mind of the bad. Your happiness is your life, make it a happy one.
    They are powerful words JWB more than many people will ever experience sadly.

    I feel that you explained the word love absolutely perfectly, perhaps adding, " finishing each other's sentences".... that knowing of each other.

    You have been in love twice... that tells me in addition to what you wrote that you totally know how to love, inside and out..

    And, as i have always believed, if you have loved not once but twice, you will again..

    It's those whom can not learn how to love and take, not give that can not find it.

    Well written.

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    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!
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