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    The same thing happens with childbirth. I refused a certain test that I had researched and determined was more dangerous than what was being tested for and had a high false positive rate and I was denighed care by a group of doctors and med school trained midwives. AND was essentially blackballed by other care givers who wouldn't take me because the first group had refused me further care. I was fortunate to find a midwife who has worked in the peace core and wasn't tied into the others. She was mystified why they had wanted to do this testing in the first place and found no reason for it. (I later learned that office had spent a bundle on special equipment and subjected every pregnant women to these tests to pay for the equipment) Since that time I've spoken with a number of women who had similar experiences and many who gave in because they didn't want to end up like I did, 7 months pregnant and no care provider. I researched and could have delivered myself.
    I completely agree with this. I also used a midwife and had a home delivery, luckily I did not have to deal with a doctor through my entire pregnancy, but did have a real hard time getting a hospital to set me up an emergency backup plan because I did not use a doctor, and they refused to deal with me. So I had to just say, ok, if anything goes wrong we'll just show up and they'll help me. All the research I did on doctor's and hospitals practices on women in pregnancy and labor was mortifying. Most of the things they do they don't even ask permission or notify you it is being done to you. Good for you WC for standing up to them.
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    I heard this on the radio this morning and boy did it have me fired up. I wanted to get your input on this one. There is now a group of mens right's advocates that claim that women have more rights than women when it comes to pregnancies. Women have the right to give the child up for adoption or have an abortion but men do not have the option to give the child up if he does not want or can not support the child. They are arguing that men should have a time frame after finding out a women is pregnant to opt out of financial responsibilty so that the women can then decide on what she would like to do knowing she will not have support. Am I the only one who thinks this is competely ridiculous.

    I truely dont think anyone would allow this but who knows in today's world. I've always been one to believe that everyone knows what can come of sex. If you dont protect yourself than dont be surprised when a baby comes along. I just dont think the child should be the one that suffers. I mean I do understand there are some women out there that want to trap the guy and lies about being on BC but once an innocent life has been created, should one party be able to just back out? I can see the different angles on this topic. At the end of the day for me, I just think that the child was created by 2 people and those 2 people should be responsible.
    If people believe in abortion as it now is, then close to equal rights would allow the male to "abort" the child by severing all ties for a small fee. Of course, he having a relationship with the child after it was born would be like visiting a dead body. Rights have to be asymmetric in such situations, but they should be as equitable as possible. Rights to terminate should be available on both sides if on any side. The asymmetry is just society forcing a contract onto someone who doesn't want one.
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