Thread: boyfriend doesn't turn me on

Originally Posted by OhThereYouAre

These symptoms you are reading about are primarily symptoms of women who are newly experiencing a DROP in testosterone production....most likely after child birth or post menopause. Not for someone who has lived with low testosterone their whole life and adjusted accordingly.

From what you are saying, I'm suspecting your testosterone levels have always been on the low side.

The two biggest symtoms for low test are low sex drive and mild to severe depression. If I remember correctly, and I usually do, those were the first two symptoms you posted in this thread.

I disagree with an above poster- in healthy humans your baseline testosterone levels are DIRECTLY correlated to your sex drive. More testosterone = more sex drive. I'm not the only person who disagrees, studies and more studies will prove this. Just do some research.

I've made the distinction before....between your sex drive and your "willingness to have sex/masturbate." They are two very different things. We can be aroused and not want to do anything about it. And we also can be NOT aroused and choose to do something about it....or "get yourself in the mood" as they say here.

You have to distinguish physical pleasure from mental pleasure. Your sex drive are the mental feelings of lust and desire....the feelings that originate in your brain and cause your physical parts to fill with blood and become sensitive. You can manipulate and manipulate your parts until you are blue in the face, but if you don't have the mental URGES and the desires to spur and accompany your actions, you probably won't be able to achieve an orgasm.

I also disagree with the above poster that says there are no prescriptions for women who experience low testosterone. A quick search will show you just the exact opposite. There are creams, patches and injections of pharmaceutical grade testosterone available at any local pharmacy. And they are all legal with prescription. You just need a Dr. who is experienced with this type of thing. I'm guessing our fellow poster isn't him/her.

Like I said before in this post...people are afraid of testosterone supplements because they are classified as steroids. Don't let that bug you.

I do agree with the poster that it is worth a try.

You have nothing to lose....you've tried everything else.

If it is steriods, then that is probably going to cause weight gain. Not sure about that but that is the case, I'm not taking it.

Second thing I'm not sure I want to turn myself into a guinny pig using these drugs with all the side effect.

And the most important one, you say this is something I have had always my life. I have NOT been depressed all my life. I was recent depressed if that is what is was because my very first serious boyfriend crushed my heart into a million pieces and I didn't know how to deal with it. People who go through something like that get depressed or down. Before him I was bubbly and carefree half of the time when I wasn't falling physically apart. When I was with my ex for those four and a half months, I lived on cloud 9 I was so happy. Then he crushed me, catching me completely off guard. So I'm may just be down like I think it was you who said in about page 9. Down in the dumps, not depressed. Having a real hard time because I don't know how to deal with heartbreak.

I don't like half of these side effects. The ones in bold are the side effect that are more common. Change of sex drive is in there but is it really worth it. Not with some of those side effects.

Testosterone

All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Testosterone:

Acne; bitter or strange taste in mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); breast growth or pain; change in the size or shape of the testicles; dark urine or light-colored bowel movements; depression or mood changes; dizziness; gingivitis; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; nausea; painful or prolonged erection; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; urination problems; weight gain; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

Testosterone Cypionate

All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Testosterone Cypionate:

Acne; bitter or strange taste in mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Cypionate:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); breast growth or pain; change in the size or shape of the testicles; dark urine or light-colored bowel movements; depression or mood changes; dizziness; gingivitis; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; nausea; painful or prolonged erection; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; urination problems; weight gain; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

Testosterone Enanthate

All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Testosterone Enanthate:

Acne; bitter or strange taste in mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Enanthate:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); breast growth or pain; change in the size or shape of the testicles; changes in menstrual periods; coughing fit; dark urine or light-colored bowel movements; depression or mood changes; dizziness; facial hair growth; gingivitis; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; nausea; painful or prolonged erection; shortness of breath; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; urination problems; voice changes or hoarseness; weight gain; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

Testosterone Gel

All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Testosterone Gel:

Acne; breast tenderness or enlargement; change in sex drive; headache; skin irritation at the application site.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Gel:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); calf pain, swelling, or redness; change in the size or shape of the testicles; dark urine; excessive daytime sleepiness; frequent, prolonged, or painful erections; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; memory problems; mood or mental changes (eg, anxiety, depression, hostility, suicidal thoughts); nausea; new or worsening trouble urinating (eg, frequent urination, inability to urinate, weak urine stream); pale stools; severe headache; skin discoloration; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; trouble sleeping or other sleep changes; unexplained or unusual weight gain; unusual tiredness or weakness; vomiting; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

Testosterone Patch

All medicines may cause side effects, but many people have no, or minor, side effects. Check with your doctor if any of these most COMMON side effects persist or become bothersome when using Testosterone Patch:

Acne; bitter or strange taste in mouth; change in sex drive; fatigue; gum or mouth irritation; gum pain; gum tenderness or swelling; hair loss; headache.

Seek medical attention right away if any of these SEVERE side effects occur when using Testosterone Patch:

Severe allergic reactions (rash; hives; itching; difficulty breathing; tightness in the chest; swelling of the mouth, face, lips, or tongue); breast growth or pain; change in the size or shape of the testicles; dark urine or light-colored bowel movements; depression or mood changes; dizziness; gingivitis; interrupted breathing while sleeping; loss of appetite; nausea; painful or prolonged erection; stomach pain; swelling of the ankles or legs; urination problems; weight gain; yellowing of the skin or eyes.

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Ok, above might be what guys have to endure. Good luck to you guys. This is what I found specifically for women. It is not even FDA approved. Below is why I hate drugs.

Notice: Solvay Pharmaceuticals, Inc. announced on March 10, 2009, that it would discontinue supplying the marketplace with ESTRATEST® (Esterified Estrogens and Methyltestosterone) Tablets and ESTRATEST® HS (Esterified Estrogens and Methyltestosterone) Tablets. Effective March 31, 2009, the company will no longer accept orders for new product from its customers.

GENERIC NAME: esterified estrogens and methyltestosterone

BRAND NAME: Estratest

DRUG CLASS AND MECHANISM: Esterified estrogens are a mixture of related estrogens. Estrogens, when taken alone or in combination with a progestin, have been shown to reduce the risk for hip fracture due to osteoporosis by 25% as well as the risk of heart attack (myocardial infarction) and stroke by 40-50%. Esterified estrogens are used for numerous medical situations. Estrogens cause growth and development of female sex organs and the maintain sex characteristics, including growth of underarm and pubic hair and shaping of body contours and skeleton. Estrogens also increase secretions from the cervix and growth of the inner lining of the uterus (endometrium). Estrogens reduce LDL-cholesterol ("bad" cholesterol) and increase HDL-cholesterol ("good" cholesterol) concentrations.

Testosterone is the major male sex hormone that is responsible for many male sexual characteristics, but women also produce small amounts of testosterone. Following menopause, a woman's production of testosterone decreases. When testosterone in the form of methyltestosterone is added to estrogens, there may be a further alleviation of the hot flashes seen after menopause, and there also may be an improvement in a woman's sexual function.

GENERIC AVAILABLE: no

PRESCRIPTION: yes

PREPARATIONS: Estratest tablets: esterified estrogens 0.625mg plus methyltestosterone 1.25mg; esterified estrogens 1.25mg plus methyltestosterone 2.5mg. Estratest HS is one-half the strength of Estratest.

STORAGE: Tablets should be stored at 36-86°F (20-30°C).

PRESCRIBED FOR: Estratest is prescribed for the treatment of the common symptoms associated with menopause (e.g., hot flashes, vaginal dryness).

DOSING: Estratest usually is prescribed as 1 or 2 tablets daily for 21 consecutive days followed by 7 days without medication.

DRUG INTERACTIONS: For drug interactions for esterified estrogens, please read the esterified estrogens article.

Methyltestosterone can increase the effects of warfarin (Coumadin), increasing the risk of bleeding. Taking methyltestosterone and imipramine (Tofranil) together has led to paranoia in a few patients. Methyltestosterone can increase blood concentrations of cyclosporine (Sandimmune; Neoral), which can increase the risk of kidney damage.

PREGNANCY: Both methyltestosterone and estrogens should not be used during pregnancy due to an increased risk of fetal abnormalities.

NURSING MOTHERS: Estrogens are secreted in milk and cause unpredictable effects in the infant. They should not be used during breast-feeding.

SIDE EFFECTS: For side effects, please read the esterified estrogens article.

Methyltestosterone can have masculinizing effects in women, the development of acne, growth of facial hair, enlargement of the clitoris, reduction in breast size, and deepening of the voice. If treatment is discontinued when these symptoms first appear, they usually diminish or disappear; however, prolonged treatment can cause irreversible masculinizing effects.


SIDE EFFECTS: For side effects, please read the esterified estrogens article.

GENERIC NAME: esterified estrogens

BRAND NAME: Estratab; Menest

DRUG CLASS AND MECHANISM: Esterified estrogens are a mixture of several estrogens, a type of female hormone. Estrogens cause growth and development of female sex organs and the maintenance of sex characteristics, including growth of underarm and pubic hair and shaping of body contours and skeleton. Estrogens also increase secretions from the cervix and growth of the inner lining of the uterus (endometrium). Estrogens reduce LDL - cholesterol ("bad" cholesterol) and increase HDL - cholesterol ("good" cholesterol) in the blood. Estrogens, when taken alone or in combination with a progestin (another type of female hormone), have been shown to reduce the risk of heart attack (myocardial infarction) and stroke by 40-50%. In addition, their bone-promoting effects reduce the risk for hip fracture from osteoporosis (a bone disease that occurs primarily in women after menopause when the body stops producing its own estrogens) by 25%.

PRESCRIPTION: yes

GENERIC AVAILABLE: yes

PREPARATIONS: Tablets: 0.3mg, 0.625mg, 1.25mg, 2.5mg.

STORAGE: Tablets should be stored between 2° (36°F) and 30°C (86°F).

PRESCRIBED FOR: Esterified estrogens are prescribed for the treatment of the common symptoms associated with menopause (for, example, hot flashes and vaginal dryness), dysfunctional (excessive and painful) uterine bleeding, and prostate cancer, as well as for the prevention of bone fractures associated with osteoporosis, heart attacks, and strokes.

DOSING: Esterified estrogens are generally prescribed once daily.

DRUG INTERACTIONS:

Cyclosporine levels: Estrogens can inhibit the metabolism (destruction) of cyclosporine, resulting in increased cyclosporine blood levels. Such increased blood levels can result in kidney and/or liver damage. If the combination of estrogens and cyclosporine cannot be avoided, cyclosporine concentrations in the blood can be monitored, and the dose of cyclosporine can be adjusted to assure that its blood levels are not elevated.

Liver disease: Estrogens appear to increase the risk of liver disease in patients receiving dantrolene through an unknown mechanism. Women over 35 years of age and those with a history of liver disease are especially at risk.

Reduced effectiveness of anticoagulants: Estrogens increase the liver's ability to manufacture chemicals that are required in order for blood to clot. Therefore, patients receiving warfarin (Coumadin), which anticoagulates ("thins" the blood) by inhibiting the manufacture of the chemicals required for clotting, need to have the ability of their blood to clot monitored if an estrogen is added. If blood clots too easily, the dose of warfarin may need to be increased.

Reduced effectiveness: Rifampin, barbiturates, carbamazepine (Tegretol), griseofulvin, phenytoin (Dilantin) and primidone, can increase the elimination of estrogen by enhancing the liver's ability to metabolize (destroy) it. Use of these drugs may result in a reduction of the beneficial effects of estrogens.

PREGNANCY: Estrogens should not be used during pregnancy because of an increased risk of fetal abnormalities.

NURSING MOTHERS: Estrogens are secreted in milk and cause unpredictable effects in the infant. Therefore, they generally should not be used during breast-feeding.

SIDE EFFECTS: Among the most common endocrine side are breakthrough bleeding or spotting, loss of periods, or excessively prolonged periods, breast pain, breast enlargement, and changes in sexuality (increase or decrease in libido). Estrogens also may cause gallstones, hepatitis, migraine headaches, and fluid retention (swelling of the lower legs). Melasma (tan or brown patches) may develop on the forehead, cheeks, or temples. These may persist even after the estrogen is stopped. Estrogens may cause an increase in the curvature of the cornea, and, therefore, patients with contact lenses may develop intolerance to their lenses.

Blood clots: Blood clots are occasional but serious side effects of estrogen therapy and are dose-related, that is, they occur more frequently with higher doses. Cigarette smokers are at a higher risk than non-smokers. Therefore, patients requiring estrogen therapy are strongly encouraged to quit smoking.

Uterine cancer: Estrogens can promote a build-up of the lining of the uterus or endometrium (endometrial hyperplasia) and increase the risk of endometrial cancer. At diagnosis, endometrial cancers in estrogen users are generally of an earlier stage and a lesser degree of malignancy than in non-users. Survival, therefore, is better. The addition of a progestin to estrogen therapy prevents endometrial cancer from developing.

Breast cancer: Conflicting data exists on the association between estrogen therapy and breast cancer. There may be a small increase in risk. It is not clear if the addition of a progestin during estrogen therapy reduces the risk of breast cancer (as it does for uterine cancer).

ItsASecret, what can you tell me about the medicine that you tried? You said nothing really worked. How long of using these medicines did it take before you finally realized that you were going to get no where.

If some how posting these drug descriptions break any rules, then delete them.