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    Default Don't you think it's wonderful that women have CHOICES these days?

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    More and more women are coming out and saying they don't care/mind if they ever get married and/or have children, and I find this so incredibly liberating. I am 27, in the 6th year of my relationship and I still don't know if I want either of those things, but it makes me feel good knowing I am far from the only one.

    A lot of people still look at you like you have a hand growing out of your forehead if you say you don't know or you don't want those things, but generally people are very accepting nowadays. I read somewhere that a woman once said "I would rather not want a child and not have one than not want a child and have one". This simple statement really spoke to me!

    How do you feel personally?

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    Yes I LOVE that! Even though I think that at some point I DO want to get married and have/adopt children, I still get a little thrill hearing people say that they don't want those things. Imagine saying that 50 years ago. Freak!

    Apparently studies show that in general couples tend to be happier without children, too. I can see why... less financial and emotional stress. But on the other hand, I know many people who have children say that they are the best thing that have happened to them.

    I wonder why there's a growing trend out there that considers marriage to be a bad thing. Do you know the specifics? Is it just because of the possibility of a difficult divorce?

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    Could be! I have heard stories about couples being together for e.g. 10 years, then they get married and divorce 6 months later! I guess things do change a lot when you get married. You take vows after all. Personally it scares the crapola out of me lol.

    As for the children thing, I don't know how I will feel in the future, but right now I love my life. I love my freedom, financial and otherwise. I love being able to up and leave whenever I want. Some people might call that attitude selfish, but as far as I am concerned it is my life, not theirs. I have seen too many people marry and have kids because that's what they think they should be doing. They end up miserable and resentful. Of course this isn't the case for everyone!

    I have about $20 left at the end of each pay packet lol, and that is just on things for me! (travel pass, precriptions etc). Financially I am not even close.

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    We have a long way to go to have equitible societies but we do have so many more choices than even generation or two ago. I think it's great!
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    I am interested to see how women on here feel about it as individuals. If single/in a bf/gf relationship - do you want to be married? Why? Why not? Do you want kids? Why? Why not?


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    I have 2 kids already so I have no choice about that anymore! Lol. I am divorced, have a boyfriend, and never, ever want to be married ever again. I will explain why.

    I don't see the point at all. Nevermind that statistics say that more than half of all marraiges fail. Signing a certificate and saying vows makes no one any more, committed or faithful in any way. That is a choice, a legal document does not make that happen. Also, it seems ugly to me to make someone commit their life to you no matter what you do and vice versa. The beauty of love to me is that it is a choice, not something you are made to do, and to me, marriage means that you have to in a way. For me, I would rather someone come home to me and be with me every day because they want to, not because they have to or they just don't want a divorce. That's more beautiful to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mes_T View Post
    Yes I LOVE that! Even though I think that at some point I DO want to get married and have/adopt children, I still get a little thrill hearing people say that they don't want those things. Imagine saying that 50 years ago. Freak!

    Apparently studies show that in general couples tend to be happier without children, too. I can see why... less financial and emotional stress. But on the other hand, I know many people who have children say that they are the best thing that have happened to them.

    I wonder why there's a growing trend out there that considers marriage to be a bad thing. Do you know the specifics? Is it just because of the possibility of a difficult divorce?
    My own personal observations,

    First I tend to think that people are finding that love and commitment do not necessarily need to be validated with marriage certificates as much as it did when my parents married or even when I married for the first time. The perception of children being the fruit of a marriage is being replaced by children being the fruit of committed parents. Not that this is a hard and fast rule, just my own observation.

    I wouldn't give up for the world the pleasure I've had being involved in raising 2 fantastic kids. Both have become young adults I'm extremely proud of.

    At the same time, I know I can now live as I want to. They're pretty much on their own (even though they live with their mom) and have their own lives that don't necessarily include me. That's ok.

    As for marriage being a bad thing, I'm starting to think that young adults my kids age (24 & 19) have seen more than their fair share of divorces whether they be amiable or bitter to see that the institution of "marriage" may be more trouble than it's worth.

    Maybe, just maybe, the young adults these days are seeing commitment as more important.

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    I do know that I want to get married someday. Not so much for "validation" or anything like that, I know as much as anyone else that's not necessary to show your love for someone. It's simply the old-fashioned girl in me. I've been with my guy for over a year now and never once have I doubted that he wants the same things, and that he's the one I want them with. BUT at the same time... if he told me for some reason he never wanted to get married, I would be okay with that as long as we're still together and happy. I want to do it, but don't see it as a required thing in life.

    I can certainly understand why people wouldn't want to. In a way, it could seem like a jinx of sorts. I guess. That or the way they were brought up, or seeing it affect someone badly in their life. It's all understandable.

    Now, I know I don't want kids. I've said why a million times, but it's simply that I know myself. And I know I'm not cut out for it. I love kids, but not enough to have my own. That simple. And my boyfriend doesn't either so we're good there.

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