Why does society frown on those who choose to get plastic surgery?

**GentlemanGhost** · 02-16-2010 11:36 AM

No, I am not about to go pour buckets of money into cosmetics(can't afford that right now even if I wanted to).

However, I have recently observed that a lot of people seem to be against plastic surgery for two reasons:

Artificially giving yourself up a leg up on Natural Selection

Oh please. All the modern medical technology of the day inferiors with natural selection. For Example, glasses interfere with natural selection in the sense that they provide people without perfect eyesight to survive(NOTHING wrong with people who glasses, but you get my point).

Yes, you are hiding what you truley look like by getting plastic surgery. However, anyone here who has any basic biological knowledge of genotypes and phenotypes knows that two regular people can mate and produce a ugly kid.

The money could be spent on someone who REALLY needs it.

LOL. This one truley makes me laugh. Since when do Americans takes ONLY what they need? So, if I am truley going to take only what I need, I should be eating top ramen and be driving a 500 dollar car every day. This is capitalism people, you work hard....you get nice stuff.

**KMonte85** · 02-16-2010 11:48 AM

I've never really heard those two reasons as the main objection people have towards getting plastic surgery. But I do agree that both are ridiculous... we're far beyond a world where "natural selection" even matters.. if that were the case, every person who needs to wear glasses/contacts would be dead because they would starve from not being able to see well enough to hunt successfully. Same goes for the money... sure, I guess it could be better spent elsewhere, but it is a silly concept to believe that people will spend on only what they need to survive. If that were the case, we would all go back to self-sustaining living situations (ie hunt/farm/barter) and that is NOT likely to happen until sometime after modern society were to take a gigantic duece.

My main reason for not liking plastic surgery is because I feel that soooo many people, women especially, do it because of their own insecurity. Of course there are some times where the surgery is to make ourselves feel "normal" again (think breast cancer survivor getting breast implants after a mastectomy, or a rhinoplasty after a nasty car accident that broken your nose).

But those people who look great as they are, and just want to fit some "ideal" are the ones I worry about. No amount of plastic surgery will make you feel good about yourself if your insecurities are ingrained in the mind... your breasts may be bigger and perkier or your butt implants may give you a fantastic JLo booty, but you will then just focus your negative attention on another body part and continue with being unhappy and insecure with yourself. It is about being comfortable in one's own skin that is important. If you don't have that, you might as well through your money out the window as get surgery. No amount will ever make you happy, and you just put yourself in at financial and medical risk for aestheics - when the problem is really much deeper than that.

**Hopeless Dork** · 02-16-2010 12:03 PM

Tatoos, Piericings, Haircuts, Bodyshaving, Tans, Weightlifting, make up, padded bra's/shapewear and more all modify what you are naturally working with... a lot of people have no problems with most of those things... but plastic surgery hits a sore point with a lot of people. Its changing what god gave you! How is that any different than a tattoo? God didn't put the tazmanian devil on your back - You did. Nature didn't make you a brunette with chunky blonde streeks, You did.

The big seperation is that plastic surgery is the only appearance enhancing treatment that can KILL you. Surgery is DANGEROUS. People put their lives on the line for "vanity" and that is what makes some ppl disgusted by it. To think that someone is so into their looks they'd risk so much, pay so much to achieve change.

But its a personal choice. I took the risks into consideration when I had my bewb job. I decided its what I wanted for me. I knew full well something could have went wrong. I knew full well that some guys down the road may be turned off by the fact that I am "fake"... but it I untimately decided that I wanted to do it.

I've had some 'friends' get very upset by what I've done, then turn around months later and tell me they are contimplating doing the same thing. If I was flat, but NORMAL... I would not have done the surgery.

The fact is I lost so much weight that my breasts were empty sacks. Yep. They were not 'normal', they were... hideous. I knew I'd never take my shirt off in that state. No matter how much work I did on my body, there was nothing I could do to refill my breasts.

Now if when I lost the weight they had shrunk up , I'd have been fine with that... but no. My breasts remained, the volume vanished.

Now... My bewbs are hotter looking than when I was 19. I never been as full round and perky and fake or not, I feel good about my body. Me, I do. Thats what matters. I don't give a gosh darn about society, I go to sleep at night with a clear concsious for my decision. I'd do it again tomorrow.

**sperosi** · 02-16-2010 01:12 PM

Originally Posted by Hopeless Dork

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But its a personal choice. I took the risks into consideration when I had my bewb job. I decided its what I wanted for me. I knew full well something could have went wrong. I knew full well that some guys down the road may be turned off by the fact that I am "fake"... but it I untimately decided that I wanted to do it.

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and you look great!

**Disco** · 02-16-2010 01:57 PM

It could be a really primitive thing. People just feel threatened cause someone is getting a second chance at becoming beautiful. Looking likeable and attractive is important in the animal world when it comes to mating. The surgeries are just increasing people's rivalry.

**rcoreyus** · 02-16-2010 05:28 PM

I don't like plastic surgery for a couple of reasons. The biggest problem I have is that the industry is deceptive and takes advantage of people who have self confidence problems. Many of the "improvements" aren't really improvements, just changes to make someone look more typical. I've seen people who ended up looking considerably worse after surgery. It is also considerably more risky than the industry would have you believe - it is surgery and there are sometimes terrible complications.

It also supports the idea that appearance is important. To me it is not. Sure, I wouldn't really want to live with someone who is very ugly, but 80% of the women I see are attractive enough that appearance wouldn't be a problem for me in a relationship. Personality is FAR more important that appearance. Remember, if your relationship works, you hope it will continue when you are both old and wrinkled.

It also creates a bit of an "arms race". (well other body parts actually). As it becomes possible to have "perfect" breasts, face, or whatever, there is pressure for other people to do the same. Aside from the costs and risks, this leads to a world of similar looking barbie-dolls.

I'm surprised they haven't gotten to men as much yet - but they probably will. "What - you only have a 6" penis - we can make it 8" - or 10", or 22" (for a certain poster of long ago)"

Maybe its just me, but if I really like someone, they seem attractive to me, and if I don't like them, no amount of perfect parts will get more than a passing glance.

A smile will do FAR more for your appearance than a new face or breasts.

**SecretlySad** · 02-16-2010 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by rcoreyus

I've seen people who ended up looking considerably worse after surgery.

Heidi Montag - from pretty 23 year old girl to 35 year old Barbie doll.

**Hopeless Dork** · 02-16-2010 09:56 PM

Originally Posted by SecretlySad

Heidi Montag - from pretty 23 year old girl to 35 year old Barbie doll.

Her story is a nightmare, she is the poster child for why people have such anomosity towards people that get plastic surgery. Getting an eyebrow lift at 23? Something that is more routine for women in their 60's and 70's? Having her jaw SHAVED down? She was a perfect 10 pre-surgery... I can't believe someone agreed to do that stuff to her.

**rcoreyus** · 02-16-2010 10:51 PM

Its amazing what people will agree to do in return for large sums of money <ng>

Originally Posted by Hopeless Dork

She was a perfect 10 pre-surgery... I can't believe someone agreed to do that stuff to her.

**newhere808** · 02-17-2010 02:27 AM

rcoreyus touched on a few of my issues with it. I think if a women has a serious self esteem issue that she feels can only be remedied with a lift and size increase, then so be it, but there has to be a line. Your going to age at some point, gravity will win at some point, and yes at some point, faking it will not look good.

Another personal gripe that I have is that people use surgery to become something their not, trying to find self worth in something their not, and that irritates me. Theres enough fake people in the world, it doesn't need to be enforced by a petite women who feel the need to carry around DD that are so obscenely fake it's laughable, I mean if your gonna get some work done, keep it somewhat believeable. Similar things with guys too, i've seen guys on tv get calf implants, butt implants, pectoral implants, GIVE ME A BREAK. It's not real, your taking pride in something that isn't you.