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    Quote Originally Posted by rayner View Post
    millions of women have part time jobs. millions of women are on the minimum wage. women have child care problems
    Ridiculous.
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    why is it ridiculous sourpuss ?

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    It's not ridiculous, it's true, as far as i know there are more women than men in the US, and they are still treated as second class citizens...

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    In the US over half of households are headed by a single female, 2/3 of all minimum wage workers are female, and we are far more likely than men to depend on the government for health care and to have social security as our only retirement income. We still have the hyper religious trying to legislate control over our sexuality and reproductive activities.

    According to the US Department of Justice, while women are less likely than men to be victims of violent crimes overall, women are 5 to 8 times more likely than men to be victimized by an intimate partner. Females accounted for 39% of the hospital emergency department visits for violence-related injuries in 1994 but 84% of the persons treated for injuries inflicted by intimates.
    31,260 women were murdered by an intimate from 1976-1996.
    Annually, compared to males, females experienced over 10 times as many incidents of violence by an intimate. On average each year, women experienced 572,032 violent victimizations at the hands of an intimate, compared to 48,983 incidents committed against men.
    Almost 6 times as many women victimized by intimates (18%) as those victimized by strangers (3%) did not report their violent victimization to police because they feared reprisal from the offender

    Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives.

    It is estimated that 503,485 women are stalked by an intimate partner each year in the United States. Source: National Institute of Justice, July 2000

    About 75% of the calls to law enforcement for intervention and assistance in domestic violence occur after separation from batterers. One study revealed that half of the homicides of female spouses and partners were committed by men after separation from batterers

    Each year, medical expenses from domestic violence total at least $3 to $5 billion. Businesses forfeit another $100 million in lost wages, sick leave, absenteeism and non-productivity. Source: Domestic Violence for Health Care Providers, 3rd Edition, Colorado Domestic Violence Coalition, 1991.

    Studies by the Surgeon General's office reveal that domestic violence is the leading cause of injury to women between the ages of 15 and 44, more common than automobile accidents, muggings, and cancer deaths combined. Other research has found that half of all women will experience some form of violence from their partners during marriage, and that more than one-third are battered repeatedly every year.

    It is estimated that 25% of workplace problems such as absenteeism, lower productivity, turnover and excessive use of medical benefits are due to family violence. (Employee Assistance Providers/MN)

    In 92% of all domestic violence incidents, crimes are committed by men against women. Source: "Violence Against Women", Bureau of Justice Statistics, U.S. Department of Justice

    A child exposed to the father abusing the mother is at the strongest risk for transmitting violent behavior from one generation to the next. Source: "Report of the American Psychological Association Presidential Task Force on Violence and the Family

    One in five female high school students reports being physically or sexually abused by a dating partner. Source: Massachusetts Youth Risk Behavior Survey (YRBS), August 2001.


    Only about half of domestic violence incidents are reported to police. African-American women are more likely than others to report their victimization to police

    The FBI estimates that only 37% of all rapes are reported to the police. U.S. Justice Department statistics are even lower, with only 26% of all rapes or attempted rapes being reported to law enforcement officials.

    In the National Violence Against Women Survey, approximately 25% of women and 8% of men said they were raped and/or physically assaulted by a current or former spouse, cohabiting partner, or date in their lifetimes. The survey estimates that more than 300,000 intimate partner rapes occur each year against women 18 and older. (Full Report of the Prevalence, Incidence, and Consequences of Violence Against Women, Findings from the National Violence Against Women Survey, November, 2000)

    The National College Women Sexual Victimization Study estimated that between 1 in 4 and 1 in 5 college women experience completed or attempted rape during their college years (Fisher 2000).

    Factoring in unreported rapes, about 5% - one out of twenty - of rapists will ever spend a day in jail. 19 out of 20 will walk free. (Probability statistics based on US Department of Justice Statistics)

    Rape victims often experience anxiety, guilt, nervousness, phobias, substance abuse, sleep disturbances, depression, alienation, sexual dysfunction, and aggression. They often distrust others and replay the assault in their minds, and they are at increased risk of future victimization (DeLahunta 1997).

    A number of long-lasting symptoms and illnesses have been associated with sexual victimization including chronic pelvic pain; premenstrual syndrome; gastrointestinal disorders; and a variety of chronic pain disorders, including headache, back pain, and facial pain

    Almost two-thirds of all rapes are committed by someone who is known to the victim. 73% of sexual assaults were perpetrated by a non-stranger (— 38% of perpetrators were a friend or acquaintance of the victim, 28% were an intimate and 7% were another relative.) (National Crime Victimization Survey, 2005)

    Domestic violence occurs in approximately 25-33% of same-sex relationships.

    Following the Supreme Court's decision in 2000 to strike down the civil-rights provision of the Federal Violence Against Women Act (ruling that only states could enact such legislation), only two states in the country (Illinois and California) have defined gender-based violence, such as rape and domestic violence, as sex discrimination, and created specific laws that survivors can use to sue their perpetrators in civil court. (Kaethe Morris Hoffer, 2004).

    Globally, at least one in three women and girls is beaten or sexually abused in her lifetime. (UN Commission on the Status of Women, 2/28/00)

    4 million women and girls are trafficked annually. (United Nations)

    The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan reported that 2002 saw a 25% increase in “honor killings” of women, with 461 women murdered by family members in 2002, in 2 provinces (Sindh and Punjab) alone. (Pakistan Human Rights Commission, 2002)

    More than 90 million African women and girls are victims of female circumcision or other forms of genital mutilation. And as many as 80% of women in the middle east.
    In eastern and souther Africa, 17 to 22% of girls aged 15 to 19 are HIV-positive, compared to 3 to 7% of boys of similar age. This pattern—seen in many other regions of the world—is evidence that girls are being infected with HIV by a much older cohort of men. (UNICEF/UNAIDS 2007)

    A 2005 study reported that 7% of partnered Canadian women experienced violence at the hands of a spouse between 1999 and 2004. Of these battered women, nearly one-quarter (23%) reported being beaten, choked, or threatened with a knife or gun.

    a study in Zaria, Nigeria found that 16 percent of hospital patients treated for sexually transmitted infections were younger than 5. (UNFPA)

    The World Economic Forum's Gender Gap Report shows a strong correlation between gender equality and a country's prosperity and economic competitiveness.

    Leading companies are failing to capitalize on the talents of women in the workforce, according to the World Economic Forum’s Corporate Gender Gap Report 2010. It is the first study to cover the world’s largest employers in 20 countries and benchmark them against the gender equality policies that most companies should have in place but are in fact widely missing.

    The findings of the report are an alarm bell that the corporate world is not doing enough to achieve gender equality. While a certain set of companies in Scandinavia, the US and the UK are indeed leaders in integrating women, the idea that most corporations have become gender-balanced or women-friendly is still a myth. Saadia Zahidi, Co-author of the report and head of the Forum’s Women Leaders and Gender Parity Programme


    The ratio of women’s and men’s median annual earnings, was 77.0 for full-time, year-round workers in 2009, essentially unchanged from 77.1 in 2008.


    An alternative measure of the wage gap, the ratio of women’s to men’s median weekly earnings for full-time workers – was 80.2 in 2009, which is essentially flat since the historical high of 81.0 in 2005.


    Both earnings ratios (for weekly full-time workers and for year-round full-time workers) reflect gender differences in both hourly wages and the number of hours worked each year (above the definition of full-time). If part-time and part-year workers are included, the ratios would be much lower, as women are more likely than men to work reduced schedules in order to manage childrearing and other caregiving work. Nonetheless, the recession has forced 4.5 million men and 1.3 million women into part-time or part-year employment, dragging down the median annual earnings of all men by 4.1 percent since 2007, and dropping women’s annual earnings by 2.8 percent over the same time period.
    Progress in closing the gender earnings gap has slowed considerably since the early 1990s, as measured by both data series. While the gender earnings ratio for full-time employees increased by 12.9 percentage points from 1980 to 1993, it grew by only 3.1 percentage points over the next 16 years. For full-time, full-year workers, the figure increased by 11.3 percentage points during the first period and by only 5.5 percentage points in the second period.

    Women in the United States still earn only 78 cents on the dollar compared to men more than 45 years after the passage of the Equal Pay Act in 1963

    The AFL-CIO and the Institute for Women’s Policy Research found that if women were paid fairly, family incomes would rise and poverty levels would fall.
    17 percent: The additional amount that single mothers would take home in income if they were paid fairly. This would lead to a 50 percent reduction in poverty for these women, from 25.3 percent to 12.6 percent.
    13.4 percent: The additional amount that single women would receive in income if they were paid fairly. This would lead to an 84 percent reduction in poverty for these women, from 6.3 percent to 1 percent.
    6 percent: The additional amount that married women would earn if they were paid fairly. This would lead to a 62 percent reduction in poverty for these women, from 2.1 percent to 0.8 percent.

    Women workers earn less than men at every stage of life, but the wage gap widens as women get older and continues into retirement.
    $4,572: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 25 to 34.
    $11,191: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 35 to 44.
    $13,519: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 45 to 54.
    $14,116: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 55 to 64.
    $8,000: The gap between the average retirement income that men and women receive annually. Two-thirds of this disparity can be attributed to the pay gap and occupational segregation

    Women at all education levels lose significant amounts of income due to the career wage gap, but women with the most education lose the most in earnings.
    $713,000: The career wage gap for women with a Bachelor’s degree or higher.
    $452,000: The career wage gap for women with some college education.
    $392,000: The career wage gap for women with a high school education.
    $270,000: The career wage gap for women with less than a high school education.

    We sure as heck need some thing!
    You think men are going to create it for us?
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    So what is there to be done? Protest outside buildings to gain peoples attention? Maybe hold a rally? Maybe print books? What method would work cause a lot of already been tried?
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    Well we have to look at what we do and how we do it.

    Some things we can control. Women are more likely to attend college but also more likely to study something that just doesn't pay - we need to stop doing that.

    As a society we don't place a value on some of the things women do that downgrade their earning levels, such as taking time from work during childbirth or the children's early years or time to care for ill or aging family members. These things are vital to our society but result in women being less likely to get promotions and reduce women's retirement funds. In many couples the man has the retirement account and they have decided or defaulted to thinking that she doesn't need one - until he buys a sports car and takes off with that cute young thing from the office.

    The stats on divorce tell their own story, most women's income/standard of living (and typically the children's with her) drop by 40% and unless she remarries, stays there. Within a couple years of divorce, men's rise. Women need to quit thinking that marrying and having children is some sort of cure all in life.

    Women have trouble, like society, with devaluing themselves, they don't negotiate well on salary, perks or life situations. We give away the farm and then bend over to get screwed. However studies have found repeatedly that there is a definite prejudist against women who are tough negotiators or who are leaders. In carefully scripted and rehearsed group leadership situations where men and women were trained to use specific words, gestures and actions to lead groups, so that as near as possible every group was given an identical experience, the women were consistantly rated by participants more negatively than the men. We accept and expect men to be in control, to be in charge and to be aholes, we don't expect or accept it from women. So women will generally get stuck either way on this, might as well become a strong negotiator and be seen as a betch with more money and perks, than a sap without.

    We need to quit dissapating our resources on carp and get healthy mentally, physically and intellectually. I love what Susan Jane Gilman says, we need to quit sleeping with the enemy. Don't give men who abuse us in any way, who fight against our interests, who support legislation or attitudes that undermine our right to make our own decisions about conception control, pregnancy, personal safety,or economic parity, our money, our bodies, our sex, our intellect or our supportive energy.

    We need to quit picking each other apart and start really being supportive of other women. A rising tide lifts all boats. Yes, women have it better how than they have had in thousands of years, but when you are climbing out of a pit you can't stop just because the little ledge you are perched on half way up is more light than the bottom of the pit. You are still in the pit, we need to climb the rest of the way out on to firm ground where we can't just slip right back down. There are a lot of very scared people telling us that a diety wants women to be under men's feet, that things were better when they were deeper down. They are wrong but what is familiar can seem safer and easier than what is new.

    It isn't just about women. It's about people, the planet, all of life. It isn't just little girls who suffer in poverty with a underpaid single mother. Men may be the abusers to the tune of what, 98%? They can't be happy. Happy people don't fly into rages and beat other people. 1 out of every 8 men have been sexually molested, they will benefit too from ending this behavior. Good men who find themselves regarded with fear and distrust by women will benefit from having these negatives corrected. Men who get all weirded out by strange family or societal expectations that they should be emotionless, loveless, joyless, control freaks who can solve all of life's problems for weak dependant women - or if that doesn't work, hit the weak and dependant, could lighten up and act like real people who have real feelings other than anger.

    I haven't been big fan of saying I am a feminist so much as I am a life rights advocate. It isn't just about women, it isn't just about people, its about balance, its about our attitude toward life - all life. Accepting abuse in any area moves us into accepting more abuse in all areas. But we have to be balanced, nothing is going to be completely, 100% 'fair' to everyone's perception. Life feeds off other life and we are all part of a food chain and I could take this in a completely different direction. Lets just say that we all have to learn to give and take, to be responsible as much as possible for ourselves and the results of what we do to ourselves and each other.
    We can only learn to love by loving. - Iris Mudoch, British writer

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