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    excellent point!!!!! <3

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    I think it's natural by human nature, honestly. Do you know if anyone is stuck in a situation and they have two options, if you pull a coin out say choice A is heads, B is tales, flip it, and tell them the answer -- automatically they've chosen which one they'd prefer even if they couldn't before? I do it all the time with my girlfriends on things as simple as the shirt or shoes to whether or not she should leave her boyfriend or not.

    It isn't that "fate" is going to chose the right side of the coin, it's that inside you really know what you want out of life, even if it's subconsciously.

    One of my last posts here I was looking for advice on if I should date this guy because of how his friends were acting. Reading it, I gave a perfect view of my situation, but once everyone suggested I walk away -- I realized I didn't want to walk away. I wanted to give it a shot. So I do think it has to do with people coming for advice and not really knowing which way to go until they see the ultimatum staring them in the face. The entire time they're on a forked road, and it isn't until someone says GO LEFT that they reconsider everything about the right path.

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    Ahh but, here's the trick, in the back of your mind, ( a person's) there will always, always be, but "I Want" clouded judgement .

    If the situation is ikky, iffy, the advise will be "no"...yet, from reading the "no's" the person is going to say, "yes" I will give it another try.

    Why?

    Because we are pretty much programmed to have fear, fear of the un-known, better the devil you know, what if?

    All those reasons makes people actually ignore the advice and give it another go: )

    No one ever, ever, comes back and says, well I gave it a go and he cheated, you were right, or he left me after a month, or he left me after sex, or, or, or...they just fade away, and never return...
    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little_Miss_Me View Post
    One of my last posts here I was looking for advice on if I should date this guy because of how his friends were acting. Reading it, I gave a perfect view of my situation, but once everyone suggested I walk away -- I realized I didn't want to walk away. I wanted to give it a shot. So I do think it has to do with people coming for advice and not really knowing which way to go until they see the ultimatum staring them in the face. The entire time they're on a forked road, and it isn't until someone says GO LEFT that they reconsider everything about the right path.
    I had much more severe cases in mind when I wrote the OP, I know a lot are unsure when they post... I am talking more so on the ones that post that okay... this guy has cheated on me 12 times, kicks the dog, eats up all the kids fruit loops, wont help around the house or work, ignores and only talks to me to call me a fat cow... and I am about sick of it...

    Then posters come in... yeah, you deserve better... etc...

    Then some come back in and are like you know it wasn't even 12 times, it was only 6, and while he kickedd the dog it wasn't so hard and well, the kids don't care much for fruitloops anyway... and I can stand to lose a few pounds... those of you telling me to leave this guy, well... you just don't know him he's a really good man!

    End scene.
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    Yeah HD I noticed the trend. It's one of a few reasons I haven't been posting much. While I like helping people I get tired of the whining. I deal with it enough IRL. I'm glad people find help here but sometimes I read one of these threads (if I can get through the bad spelling and grammar), roll my eyes and move on. It's better than posting what I really think most of the time .
    "When one door closes, another opens. But we often look so regretfully upon the closed door that we don't see the one that has opened for us."
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    It is an interesting thing to ponder, HD. This thread has given me much thought as to the "why", and "how" it can be changed.

    It is one of the very reasons that domestic violence in the US has grown to the level it has, and why it has been so very difficult to get good laws in place. Ask almost any police officer, they deal with this scenario in real life almost daily. They get that call that a woman has been hit and has called 911. She's hurt, angry, crying, etc. But when she sees the cops come and the reality of the situation sets in, she so often says "I don't want to press charges". Could it be because she knows even if she presses charges he's not going to stay in jail, and therefore may hurt her again? Yes, in some cases that's definitely the case. But it's also the case that she, though KNOWING what he's doing to her is wrong, can't stand the thought of being alone.....so she begins to justify it to herself..."well if I had've just done what he told me instead of talking back"....etc. In 70-80% of intimate partner homicides, no matter which partner was killed, the man physically abused the woman before the murder. Some of these women did leave...and were tracked down stalked and murdered by their ex. But alot of these women didn't leave....they justified the abuse, hoped it would get better, and stayed.

    Obviously those are extreme cases. But I think it all points back to, low self worth, low self esteem, AND the societal pressures to be paired with a mate (domesticated) etc. For some, the idea of being alone is unthinkable. Not only would they be lonely, but then they'd have to explain to all their couple friends why they had no mate. Also, after being a relationship that drags you down, your self esteem is even lower than it was in the beginning, making it even harder for you to fathom starting over. "I'll never be able to find someone again" etc. I think we've all been there....the ones that post about it are the brave ones IMO. I have been guilty at times of NOT posting things before just to save face...because once it's written, I cannot take it back. I've learned that sometimes even when it seems like someone is backtracking and not listening to advice they are given and know to be true.......they do often absorb it, they do hear it, and eventually they make the right decision.

    "Be what you're looking for."

    "The next time you're thinking of kicking someone when they're down, offer them your hand and help them back up instead."



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    Ladies, I really want to commend you for this thread. It is both enlightening and insightful, and not only as it relates to you. There has been many points raised that I can most certainly relate to and for the most part am guilty of myself.
    There will always be boundries, but making love is so different, than having sex, let's face it. CW

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    I was one that came to "vent" about a boyfriend thats done me wrong, and I can say that I have left him. Admittedly it took me a few months of denial but I did break it off with him.

    For me... it was about writing it down, getting it out of my head and seeing it from a unbias point of view. I diffenately got answers I didn't want to hear... and I even said that I knew thats the advice I'd get...

    I'm a pretty firm beleiver that words do not convince anyone... especially in matters of the heart. When it comes to the heart you must decide yourself what you have to do because no one else has or knows the same feelings you live every day.
    I'm grateful for the advice and different points of view, even though that wasn't what made me leave him. I just found my breaking point.

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    It depends on the problem.

    Some times we want others to prove us wrong, and hope they'll say "your situation is so bad, the guy is just awful at the moment, but I've been there too and made it in the end, we're happily married now" and so on (compassion/optimism).

    Other times we just want to vent and expect a "yes, it was stupid of him, but things will get better tomorrow" (understanding/a shoulder to cry on).

    Other times we feel we have all the right in the world to want to break up, but we're not sure if what we feel is "reasonable" to lead us to a break up (acknowledgment/unbiased opinion).

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    That is so so true!! i did this myself..although i admit i didnt exxagerated anything,but the point is,while providing the situation,i might NOt have added minor detials which i know about the guy or the relation and which u guys must know before suggesting anything..
    and i have also noticed,guys are usually less whinning than women are (no offense meant )..

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