Thread: is there ever an excuse for crime?

In my opinion, NO! Food banks, Share the Harvest, local churches, people all over willing to help a woman with children. Learn how to hunt and fish. Learn basic survival skills in order to make your life better. There are plants and animals that one can catch or trap or, yes Shoot in order to survive. People have been so far disconnected from the source of their food that's it's a crying shame. People need to get back to the basics of life. I see people who claim to be starving or hungry, yet they have a cell phone. They claim to be hungry, yet there is a needle in their arm. They who help themselves get help, those who sit begging get no help. This is just my opinion-

I don't think there are many things in life we can give a concrete, black and white, yes or no set in stone answer. I would like to think that a person would never be in the situation in which there was NO other choice, but reality tells me that could happen. I agree that all other options should be exhausted first. But yeah, if for whatever reason there were no other options, you better believe I'd steal to feed my child or loved ones.

By pure definition, the word Crime is interesting. I also find it interesting that people relate to committing a crime to survive. I guess I think of it in less extreme circumstances. What if someone accosts a loved one? SO? Child? If you strike back by assaulting them (committing a crime) is that okay?

I would do it in a blink of an eye.

So yes, to answer your question, I'd commit a crime in a heartbeat if the right circumstances presented themselves.

Originally Posted by Beautiful Disaster

I don't think there are many things in life we can give a concrete, black and white, yes or no set in stone answer. I would like to think that a person would never be in the situation in which there was NO other choice, but reality tells me that could happen. I agree that all other options should be exhausted first. But yeah, if for whatever reason there were no other options, you better believe I'd steal to feed my child or loved ones.

I see your point, I would kill an animal out of season to feed my family and that is stealing from the citizens of Missouri. So, with that in mind, I guess I would. But fishing is never closed, so I could go that route as well and be within the bounds of the law. It's all in how far one would go I guess. Although fish is pretty dad gum good, baked, fried or right over an open fire.

Originally Posted by Drink You Alive!

Good lord, get real, most women have no idea how to hunt or fish let alone forage for food, what if she lived in manhattan ???? You do what you need to provide for your children....

Maybe so..., but that's why I said people are so disconnected from their food. Every state has a Conservation Dept that's willing to teach everyone the basics of hunting and fishing. Some hold free fishing days for people to get out and try it. Libraries are a wealth of information on survival skills. Google "Survival skills", and there is most info than a peoson can digest. There is a body of water containing fish in Most areas. Some make shift lures or hooks and you are in business. Even a fish trap near a bank of a lake or stream is a great way to provide food. Stealing can't be her/ his only option. What if she/ he gets caught stealing? The Mother/ Father goes to jail, then where do the kids go... foster care. Not saying that it isn't an option, one has to take the consequences of one's actions and accept the outcome.
Cities... catch the bakery tossing out bread and make sure it isn't contaminated and forage dumpsters. I've lived it in Metro Kansas City. Catch supermarkets throwing out things that are still suitable for consuming. It's the smallest of things that will save you. Grasshoppers cooked over an open fire are just like potato chips. There are a whole host of things you can survive on if you prepare for the worst and hope for the best. Educate yourself on edible things before you are thrown into the situation of needing it. I was taught at an early age how to survive, having a Grandmother that was 100% Cherokee has given me the knowledge to help myself. Others can get the same knowledge if they apply themselves.
It may not be the most appetizing things to eat, but the goal is to survive and I will always come out on top in survival situations. Solely my opinions and judging not-

Yes. Frequently. "Crimes" are simply rules our society has put in place to insure that the society "functions" without people killing each other. The simply is no "one size fits all" rule which can determine the right behavior in all circumstances. In law schools they start this discussion with dividing "crimes" into Malum Prohibitum vs. malum in se (things prohibited by authority as opposed to thing which by their very nature are ALWAYS wrong). Start simply... Is Killing a human being ALWAYS wrong? examples are endless..mercy killings, Osama BinLaden? etc. etc. The less "serious" the crime the more leeway people are willing to grant a"violater". Often it is a balancing act of which evil is greater? Stealing food or hungry children? Killing a man or permitting him to kill? MOTHERs can steal to feed their children?...How about FATHERS? or Grandparents...or just someone who sees a hungry child? What if the stealer takes food for theimselves as well as the children? Law School professors used to have a great time with this and if you get close to an "Answer" they change the question.