Hi Dave, spot on. Unfortunately, we do have quite a bit of spamming on this Forum, although with all of us here, Mods, we get them So, if they were able to PM, we'd be getting messages left right and centre from the members to ban them. Hense, you have to wait and be a "true" member before you can start PMing, around 33 posts. You can as you did, however, write on the Visitor Messages Page... As, for reading not writing? Na, get going, and write, you'll make alot of friends here and probably like the place even more as a result. Lounge is a good place to start. CW