Gabby, let me ask you this?
Why do YOU think , that YOU think of that?
Tell us your thoughts over why you feel this and what you think the outcome would be?
Sounds Morbid but there is a reason to the question.............
CW
is it normal to always be thinking about suicide and death?
Ive never talked to a shrink about it before as i was prewarned that
if i do then they will put me in an institution, and i don't want that
i was just wondering if its normal ive thought about it since i was 7 off and on
and tried to commite suicde three times but it never works out and ive always kept things like that from everyone friends and family as they would freak out. anyone have any imput?
Gabby
Gabby, let me ask you this?
Why do YOU think , that YOU think of that?
Tell us your thoughts over why you feel this and what you think the outcome would be?
Sounds Morbid but there is a reason to the question.............
CW
Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
It doesn't happen over night
if truth were to be told.
Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
you must believe!
first of all i have add so my mind never stops thinkin sometimes i cant sleep cuz my mind wont stop thinking , and no i dont take medicine for that or my ocd of hand washing.
There are a million reason's i'm sure as to why im always thinking things like that and yes im sure it does sound morbid. i see things all day long in life or on tv ..ect about things that are morbid or depressing , these ppl got killed or this person killed themself or this animal got beaten to death or this girl was raped. for one thing
or i see the things in the world as they are millions off ppl have millions while others suffer from nothing and die needlessly i find the ppl with millions are undeserving
or all the other millions of other "bad" things that happends in the world gets to much
but there are other things like wondering whats death like likes try it or depression lets just end it then i can 'escape the world the family the life the pressure the thoughts emotions the torture or to worrie about what will happen in my life that has not happend yet lets end it then those things that have not yet happend cant then i wont have to 'deal with them"
the first time i tried i was almost 8 but had been being molested in secred for 5 months and it makes me terbly sad to think i was 7 and was so depressed did not even want to get out of bed but would rather die , what 7 year old thinks like that ?? so i started cutting what 8 year old has even heard of that let a lone be so in need of help that they actualy do that to themself talk about morbid..
the second time my grand father had died and i did not want to live withought him in my life i had no real idea of how life worked but was defastated to say the least
i dont count the third as i was on drugs and my father drinks and has always been abusive to me and each member of my family was in there own world yeah its hard to explaine i guess im not sure ..
i probly dont make any sence and i wont blame ya'll if u just refer me to a shrink
Maybe im just to sensative for this world.
Gabby
No what you are describing is that, no one was ever there for you.
You had no where to turn...
You had no one to talk to but you were close yes? To your Grandfather and so that devistasted you.
The third time was you trying to escape, drugs etc, I understand that....
I am very happy that you replied, thank you, that was very hard for you yet, in my eyes, reading what you wrote? Very easy, it is like you want to speak to be heard.
The TV shows? The News? Don't watch them, don't read them.
Who in your life NOW, right NOW can you turn to , talk to?
There must be someone....
I understand what you are saying with your parents, been here for a while now and get the gist.
One thing you have and truly have here Gabby is people that are like mind, been through abuse or non love or both...
Or people whom truly understand...
Can you feel that you can answer the above question as well ?
I will reply tomorrow, no doubt others too.
Let's all look at this together...
You are normal but you have been through more pain than those whom have gone through a divorce, or separation, those people need to actually read this and realise that their pain is nothing, they can find again, you have a lot of healing to do but we will help you find all that you need to do so.
How old are you now?
Have you stopped drugs?
You seem like a smart girl you understand the third reason for self harming, you have a good sense about things, you seem to know why but not how to control.
Lets work on that.
CW
What you are also describing is very sad, without a doubt, pain, confussion and no one to talk to.
Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
It doesn't happen over night
if truth were to be told.
Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
you must believe!
Well let me see what i can say here i dont mind if ya'll ask me anything u would like im honest and open i dont lie theres no point and i dont get bothered by answering questions on here as even though ya'll are strangers im not ashamed or ne thing here is a place were we can be ourselves and not be judged we are here to help one another out i like to help others as i stated im sensative i know that i feel for others want to help them listen and talk with them be there for them ive been through it all so i feel i can share with them that they are not alone in there experiences its easier to say i know what u feel cuz i have actualy dont that or been there .. ect
and its true how u said all my life ive lived were i had nobody to talk to in my broken family it was keep quiet do as ur told dont get emotinal. so i had nobody let me start in the very begining.
my mother being young was raped by her step dad and that produced my oldest (half) brother then she got to gether with my father and had after 6 years had a nother child my older brother so it goes after almost 6 years later had me it was not planned nor wanted and my mom was sick when she had me and had complications in childbirth had to spend extra time at the hospital my moms mom watched my brother and my cousins watched my older half brother i was a new born and my father gave me to my neighbors to take care of me as they had 2 older kids and she was pregnent again . i feel sometimes that is one reason he hates me maybe he felt like it was my fault she was in the hospital or something she said it was not that bad and she was not at risk of dying or anything.
but after she got out they wanted to try to be a family so they got me and brothers back and moved across from those neighbors.
now my mother after i was older 4 i do belive started working nights father u will understand that he was a drinker and he and his buddys drank and gambled and rode there motercycles around and had partys at my house every night
once i can remember i was 5 and mother was at work brothers at school i was all alone with father and he burnt my little finger with his cigarret and then laughed when i cried he told everyone it was an accident but was it realy i'l never know for sure.
then when i was 7 the neighbor's middle child of 17 at the time started molesting me it was not wanted i had no idea what he wanted to do with me i was scared and all alone i cried at night cuz i new he would be there waiting for me it was my fault as i never told anyone never asked them to make him go away or to stop and he never threatened me never to tell but i was powerless i felt so ashamed and fearfull i had heard on the school bus the older kids talking about how they would cut themselves with razors and one night i had just to see what it was like and to escape the thoughts of what he had done that day , it was also when my fathers friends found it 'cute to let me drink beer and as i said my mother worked nights so she was not there to say hey dont let a 7 year old drink. and for about 6 months he tortured me till one day my father happend to find us to gether he being half naked of course. he freaked out ran over and started yelling told the guy to go home then chased me down i was so afraid that he would do the same things to me and he grabed me and forced me up stairs to my room yelling at me how could i and i new beter and what was i thinking and swering things i did not understand and through me on the bed smaked me around for a second then graped me up i and we went out he marched me over to there house he was yelling tell me i was goin to go and tell them we no longer was going to see one another we got there no body new what was going on i was crying and he wanted me to tell everyone (his family) what we had been doing .. i did not know what to do but i did not want to describe what had gone on after a while of waiting he got fed up and hauled me back and back to my bed i was glad he left me did not beat me no more but he did not let my mom talk to me about it told her he had handled it and the next day everyone acted like nothing happend i was left to deal with all that had gone in my self
ive talked to a lot of women or girls that have had that happen to them so i know im not alone, i know also its not like he had said its not my fault i was 7 and powerless.
i heard on tv once they did a study that ppl who are molested ether become molesters and try to hurt others or they become molester haters. i dont want to hurt others as i have been hurt im to sensative for that i want ppl to be happy in ther lives. i would not want to trade my past put all that had gone on and put it on someone els what if those other ppl could not have handled it as well (if u can call it well) as i did ..
now i have had a cousin who hanged himself ( and did not leave a note so nobody no's why) and things like that so im not limited in my experience of losses.
*note, i have gotten help secretly as my family did not know about my abuse, with the help of my b/f that i have now i have stoped drinking, smoking, drugs, and even though i still think of doing it sometimes i dont cut anymore.
but still cant handle the depresion somedays or the thoughts of death.
no im not crazy like my cousin whos' schitzophrenic i dont hear voices in my head..ect
to answer ur question i dont have anyone other than my b/f to talk to i tried to start opening up to my sister-in-law and it back fired so we are just friends but not the type were i can talk to her, i had a new friend move in 2 years ago and i started talking with her openly but she and her husband got a divorce and she moved back so i dont talk with her ne more. my b/f does love me for me and we plan on getting married and moving to a nother state to get away from my family and be closer to his . we were friends and he was there helping me through everything including the ugly stuff like drug rehab or wen i was in the hospital for falling or getting surgery for my migrains and cancer checks....ect
he is a honest open sensative christian man who i love
i know there are a lot of things i need to do to be happy and it will take a life time to 'heal, im just not sure were to start other than start by talking on here
you say im smart im not book smart i hardly went to school but i did graduate and someday would like to try college. i see the world differently as im sensative
i dont want the world and everything in it i dont want to be rich or famouse i dont want to be a burden i would like to just be happy have a family help others animals included when i see the situation i veiw it differntly , one thing my b/f said he loves about me is that fact that im "uniqe , in how i think about things and tells me im smarter than i give myself credit for and ive been told by a few other ppl (online) that even though im only 24 im more (mature) than most adults in how i handle myself , i dont ask for things nor want pidy or a hand out
one lady after explaining my Godly experiences said i was "wize beyond years i have no idea what that means but im sure its a good thing.
i wont go out of my way to 'get u back or hurt u on purpose or make fun or judge
(aslo as i told b/f in the begining of our relationship (3) years ago that i was not like other girls i dont ask for much i dont tease or make altumatums i dont get jelous and im very understanding and want an open (lets talk about anything even if its hurtfull or embarresting and if ive hurt u or your feelings TALK it out as im not doing it on purpose and ive probaly dont realizie i have done so)
and i told him i loved him so much that i want him to be happy even if that means its not with me. (and yes my b/f is such the guy who even cryes in front of u if nessasary he's not ashamed or does not hid when we pray before going on a plane ride)..ect
i can keep rambling on im not sure if anyone is listening but as i was told its best to talk about things than keep them inside gee now you tell me not to keep it all inside that is how i was raised not to be seen or heard..
ttyl
Gabby
Hey Gabby...
It seems like your boyfriend is really nice, caring and loving.
I am glad that he is working towards you both moving closer to his family, it is probably a good change for you to have in your life don't you think?
I imagine you know that you can't blame yourself for any of what happened, and if we don't speak, then no one knows the truth, and people assume.
I am really glad that you don't cut yourself any more, are of drugs and alcohol and have happiness in your life.
So, you ask this question, about suicide and death but it seems to me that you are getting past all that.
I want to thank you for sharing all that you did and yes, it is good to get it all out for sure.
You will have ups and downs but keep yourself busy, do things that you love doing, and smile like you did when you mentioned your boyfriend, all the time.
"wize beyond years i have no idea what that means but im sure its a good thing.
I liken wise beyond years, as very muture way past your age, or in a spiritual way, "an old soul", been here before....
You have a very good way of looking at things, i am also glad that you are getting some help outside, even if your family do not know of it...
There is an old saying, " we can't choose our family, but we can choose our friends"...
Hope you keep writing, this is a good place to let things go, and express, as you said, no one knows you.
If something really, really bothers you on-going, why not write it down on a piece of paper, then burn it, saying i let you go.....you no longer need to be in my mind .......
and toss the paper to the wind.
Bit like afirmations... like i said regarding the clown...
Take care and hope to read more about how well your going.
CW
Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
It doesn't happen over night
if truth were to be told.
Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
you must believe!
hi gaby ...
i will not try to give advice but reading through your posts I would say that you are well on your way to healing .... firstly is that you have recognised that something is wrong and second you are here in this forum that means you are reaching out ...
you might think that you are alone at times ... but there are angels around us (normal people included) that lift our spirits and give us a bit of a cheer when we're down ....
hopefully you will get past this .... no no ... surely u will get past this
lotsaluv![]()
Derek: Are you sure you're ready?
Meredith: I'm leaning into the fear to get a happy ending.
Derek: I don't even know what that means...
~Grey's Anatomy~
Sweetie I don't know who told you that if you went to a counselor they would lock you up, if you were hysterical or suicidal at the time they might hold you but it's very unlikely otherwise. People who have been abused are more likely to become abusers but they don't have to and often don't. I was abused, my children have not been. It takes awareness and some coping skills, one is to give yourself a timeout. When you start feeling too stressed you have to remove yourself and take some time to calm down - meditation can be a big help, so can exersize.
You have to let go of all this, it doesn't have to be complicated or difficult. Know that all that happened to you was because of who they were, not because of who you are. Those people are long gone, they may never think of what they did but everytime you think of it you are revictimizing yourself. You are carrying it around with you like a heavy back pack. You've carried it a long time, letting go can feel uncomfortable and that's why you need some help, to break the habit. Just like quitting smoking, thinking about it is a habit or addiction you need to break.
The complusive thinking is not unusual for someone with your background, again it's a habit and you can learn new ways to cope. Meditation is one since it helps you learn to control your mind. Another thing that can help is writing. Pour it out on paper, then burn the paper, let it go up in smoke. Certain compulsive behaviors are a common reaction when you've had a lot of your life violently taken control of. We all have some things we are compulsive about so don't lable yourself and lock yourself in to that. You can let go of that behavior as well. After I was raped I got really hyper organized, books had to be alphabetical by author, everything in my room had to be clean and in a certain place, when I realized what I was doing and why, I was able to let go of the more extreme end of it. If you saw my house now you'd see I've really let go of it! (LOL) The first step is realizing where the behaviors come from, that they are a reaction, an attempt to cope with something that isn't happening anymore.
You can get past this and find joy and happiness. Take it a step at a time, be good to yourself.
Well then i must share that i was an atheist all my life as i had all the wrong childish ideas about God how he must be a terble God if he is real and he could not love us as his children as we suffer each day but in 2005 my friend died in front of me but my guardian angel saved me from seeing the hole accident i seen the 'angel' later the next morning in a dream and i relized how wrong i was and how everything aboug God was as all the christians tried to convince me and all that so i let go and acepted Christ as my Lord and savior i got babtized all that and tired to turn my life around in every way possable and it seem to be working (its not a quick turn around by no means but)
that is one reason i asked the initual question as i know the real turth about life now but i still have all that thought about dying and death and suicide i dont want that anymore i know that having a healthy understanding and respect for the dying and death procese but i dont think i should be thinking about it as i still do ?
again im not sure if i make any sence
Gabby~
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