A question for single mothers

**petrongalba** · 12-27-2009 06:57 AM

I hope its okay to post this thread in this forum since its technically about parenting, but anyways its about male genetalia too, so bear with me.

I have an idea for a reality show or webcast and I was wanting single mothers opinions on it, though anyones opinions would be appreciated too. I am something of a veteran entreprenuer, so this isn't just a pipe dream, if I get good enough feedback I fully intend to see this to fruition

So basically the concept of the show would be this. Deadbeat dads, meaning dads who don't pay child support, left their babymomma while she was pregnant, etc etc....would get offered a generous sum of money to come on the show and let their babymommas give them one good kick in the testicles. I'm talking, the guy is held down, legs spread for maximum aim. Before the actual kicking though, I'd have a segment where we talk to the babymomma, find out the backstory, what exactly happened with their relationship, how it went wrong, how many kids they have, how he sucks as a dad and so on.

I know that sounds a little brutal, but lets face it, most americans i think would watch a show like this. One, the deadbeat dad is consenting and is being compensated handsomely for his discomfort. Two, the babymomma is getting a type of revenge that I think most mothers who have been screwed over by their babydaddy's, would love to have. Thirdly, I think something like this would actually improve fatherhood after a while, as many men would see the show and realize that being a good, attentive, involved father is the best way to be (guys shouldn't really need a reality show to teach them that, but you know what i mean! lol) And lastly, just judging by what I see in movies and tv, america loves to see a good nut-shot, even guys find it hilarious.

So single mothers, is this something you'd be willing to consider doing yourself (being a participant) or at least be interested in watching as entertainment? I haven't spoken to too many single mothers about this yet, so I need to know there would actually be a fanbase for this sort of idea before I invest any sort of time or money in it.

Also, would there be any sort of legal ramifiications for something like this? I know some of the shows in Japan and whatnot are somewhat more extreme, but here in America I know there is a different attitude. I figure since all the adults are consenting there shouldn't really be any sort of legal issues though right? Never been strong at the legal aspect of business.

**petrongalba** · 12-27-2009 08:08 AM

Why in the world was this moved to Mental Health? This has nothing to do with Mental Health.

**WildChild** · 12-27-2009 08:09 AM

I considered banning you as a troll but have given the benefit of the doubt.

You must harbor a great deal of anger and have some trouble with appropriate response to inappropriate behavior. Let me ask you this; there are many women who are poor mothers and spouses and are really rather nasty people, would you watch a program where a man tells all the things she has done and then gets to beat her while she is restrained? Or maybe tied, spread eagle, kicks her in the groin?

Violence is not a solution to anything. The kind of people who would watch this sort of thing shouldn't be encouraged. We have many forms of birth control available or alternatively you can just say no. There is no reason to have children with men you aren't really certain of and if one turns out to be a creitan you can deal with him legally. The fact that some percentace of the population is mindless enough to watch the garbage on TV does not justify creating any more of it.

I'm a single mother, with an ex who is a nut case - to put it mildly. Most of us want the man as far removed from ourselves and our children as possible and are not looking for an opportunity to really tick him off or push him over the edge.

You might consider getting some counseling. anger management might be a good idea. How about creating a program on communication skills and learning appropriate problem solving skills?

**petrongalba** · 12-27-2009 09:05 AM

Though I am grateful that you didn't excuse me as a troll, I am equally insulted that you are so quick to label someone as maladjusted because their views happen to be different then yours.

Did I not say the man would be paid handsomely? He would never even be on the show unless he agreed to do it, which would obviously mean he wanted the money, and since he's a big boy, it would be his choice.

On a show like mine, the contestant wouldn't have an injury any worse than contestants get on Wipeout, American Gladiator, Fear Factor or any of those other shows. So I guess the people who make those shows are all screwed up in the head, and everyone who enjoys watching those shows are also screwed up in the head, by your very narrow idea of what is 'normal', right?

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I question the wisdom of (edit). I mean, dang, I had only posted ONCE. ONCE! And you railed off on me about how I should seek therapy.
I wasn't bothering anyone and I didn't say anything obscene in my first post. I was polite and kept it as clean as I could. I didn't even break any of the posting rules, yet you admitted that you considered banning me anyway. I really think I am owed an apology.

**WildChild** · 12-27-2009 09:41 AM

I am very sorry that you think that such behavior or a program promoting and broadcasting it, would be a desirable thing to do.

**Goodgirl93** · 12-27-2009 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by petrongalba

Though I am grateful that you didn't excuse me as a troll, I am equally insulted that you are so quick to label someone as maladjusted because their views happen to be different then yours.

Did I not say the man would be paid handsomely? He would never even be on the show unless he agreed to do it, which would obviously mean he wanted the money, and since he's a big boy, it would be his choice.

On a show like mine, the contestant wouldn't have an injury any worse than contestants get on Wipeout, American Gladiator, Fear Factor or any of those other shows. So I guess the people who make those shows are all screwed up in the head, and everyone who enjoys watching those shows are also screwed up in the head, by your very narrow idea of what is 'normal', right?

I'm sorry, I don't mean to be rude, but I question the wisdom of whoever made you a moderator, when you are so quick to judge people. I mean, dang, I had only posted ONCE. ONCE! And you railed off on me about how I should seek therapy.
I wasn't bothering anyone and I didn't say anything obscene in my first post. I was polite and kept it as clean as I could. I didn't even break any of the posting rules, yet you admitted that you considered banning me anyway. I really think I am owed an apology.

I proudly stick up for WildChild when I say she is an amazing Moderator.She moved your thread because it was not in the appropriate category,And she does have a point about violence.Its not the solution.If you come here with a negative attitude,expect to get some negative responses.

As for anger management,I am NOT judging,but I do agree with WC that it may be a good idea to consider.You obviously have a lot of built up emotions and it seems as if your trying to go the wrong way about letting it out.

Best of luck.

**petrongalba** · 12-27-2009 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by Goodgirl93

I proudly stick up for WildChild when I say she is an amazing Moderator.She moved your thread because it was not in the appropriate category,And she does have a point about violence.Its not the solution.If you come here with a negative attitude,expect to get some negative responses.

As for anger management,I am NOT judging,but I do agree with WC that it may be a good idea to consider.You obviously have a lot of built up emotions and it seems as if your trying to go the wrong way about letting it out.

Best of luck.

I am not insulted that my thread was relocated. That part I understand. If as moderator, she found it to be in the wrong category, then that is fine. However, she moved it to Mental Health, which it has absolutely nothing to do with the contents of my original post, at all.

Going even further than the implications involved in moving someones first post to a Mental Health forum, she then encouraged me to seek therapy and insinuated I have anger management issues.

How did she come to the conclusion I needed anger management? My original post wasn't an angry one by any means. And I think, given the kind of judgmental treatment I have recieved here so far, I have been very civlized and polite. I haven't called anyone names, made rude suggestions or anything else that someone with 'anger managment' issues would surely do.

And now you imply that I came here with a negative attitude. May I ask how my attitude was negative? Your answer must of course be based off of my first post only, as you said I would get negative responses with my negative attitude.
In my original post I wasn't negative in the least. At least I don't think I was. In what way was I negative? I really want to know. I don't recall insulting anyone, or speaking in a degrading way of any particular lifestyle or relgion or sexual preference. I came on this board and addressed everyone just as cordially as I would expect to be adderessed in their place.

And right off the bat I get insulted by someone telling me I need therapy etc etc etc...And somehow I am the one who is wrong?

If you have ever enjoyed a football game a hockey game, a boxing match or anything like that, then you need therapy just as much as you think I do, for violence and entertainment have always gone hand in hand.

**petrongalba** · 12-27-2009 10:46 AM

I have just reread Wild Child's initial post to me and have just a few more remarks to make, as I think I also may have responded in an imperfect way to her original statements.

Wild Child, if you think my proposed idea for a show is in poor taste, then why not just say that it wouldn't be your cup of tea, and leave it at that?

As for pushing an absent father 'even further over the edge' obviously a single mother with a nut case for a babyfather would not desire to be a participant and would never contact the show.

However, I'm sure there are lots and lots of single mothers out there, whos babyfather is NOT a nut-case, but who just happens to be lazy, uninspired and irresponsible. Deadbeat dads such as these are usually almost always broke and would probably jump at the chance to earn a few hundred dollars for having to do nothing more than be kicked in the testicles. Fathers like these are not 'on edge' and would not come after the mothers as they would be happy receiving the money in the contract and going on their merry way.

thanks for your time.

**Goodgirl93** · 12-27-2009 11:05 AM

You are correct about a moderators duties,But I believe she wasn't be judgemental.Its just tough love.In wich I think think you took the wrong way.She does have the right to post her opinions,as well as you,me,and everyone else here.I didn't get the adivce I hoped for when I first joined.In fact,some of the posters,were in fact,brutal,but truthful.I believe WC was one of the posters come to think of it.

All I can say,is expect comments that you will not take lightly.I assume you realize that some women will not agree with your post? That's where tough love comes in the picture.

I do in fact enjoy watching football and all that,but I believe its on a much different 'violence and entertainment' level.We never said directly "You seriously need to look into counseling or anger management" We simply threw the idea out there.If you come here for advice,I do believe that you have already been given some.It was just a suggestion,and I didn't mean for you to be insulted.I apologize.

I cannot speak for WC.If she so chooses to apologize,then so be it,but I can only speak for myself in that matter.

I dont think you came off as rude in your original post,although it does seem like you have a lot of built up anger.This is just my opinion,but I don't think a 'broadcast' would be the best way to solve your problems.I'm sure that since I'm not in the situation of being a single parent,that some women will strongly disagree with me.And that fine with me.

**WildChild** · 12-27-2009 11:30 AM

Moderators are also participants on the board and as such we are free to express ourselves as posters. Your thread did not belong on the sex page, it does not deal with sex or sexuality. Nor is it related to resolving a dating question, it is not something regarding a husband or fiancee, it doesn't address directly any questions of motherhood, it really isn't about family.

On one level it's about a possible business idea which would put it in the lounge since we don't really have any other page related to that. But essentially what this is about is a vindictive revenge or retribution based behavior. No doubt it might appeal to a segment of the population, such as those who watch programs like Jerry Springer. It does read very much like some of the trolls we get, designed to elicit negative responses due to shock or repugnance, that isn't just a matter of language choice but of the concept. We ban trolls and spammers immediately because of the disruption they cause to the forum and yes, that is often based on one post, over time we get pretty good at identifying them quickly. "Morality" or moral judgements have little to do with it.

I moved it to Mental Health because it just didn't seem to fit anywhere else and seemed related to an emotionally based response to a life situation. You are right, we know nothing about you at this point, other than what this thread contains. You didn't come on and introduce yourself, tell us anything about yourself, your sitution, you haven't posted responses to any other threads to allow our regular posters a chance to get a "feel" for who you are. You just started a thread about broadcasting a program involving recrimination, accusation and then physically restraining someone so they can be physically abused or attacked.

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