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    I had to go pick up my son a little while ago. The principle called and said he was sitting down for lunch & another student had his feet on his seat. He asked him to move them & when he didn't, he pushed his feet down. He said the other student tried to push him off his chair & when he couldn't, the kid hit him in the face and started choking him so he couldn't breath. He told me all this while he was crying and that thank God the teachers stopped him. He said he had thought they were friends.

    I was crying with him that this had happened to him. I told him it's never ok for someone to treat another person this way & told him if anything like that ever happens again, it's ok to fight back. I said if he ever sees someone being treated like that, it's ok to help them. This is third grade. No one should be making him fear for his life.

    The principle said she was sorry this had happened & the student had been suspended. Real punishment, he gets off early for summer break. I don't know who to be mad at. They can't control how the students are going to act, but I'm gonna be mad as poop if I find out this has happened before with the same student. I'll wait to decide after I calm down, but I don't want him to go back this year. They only have three days left. I know the last few days will be fun for saying bye to his friends til next year, but he won't miss out on learning anything. Then again, I don't want his last day of school to be the one that one of his "friends" attacked him.

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    I'm in mamma bear mode. I was really wanting to lash out at the principle. She was no where to be found when I got to her office. They had my son finishing his lunch in there & it took every thing I had not to break down when I saw him. I'm so angry that this happened.

    I know fights are going to happen, but hitting and choking someone who's not fighting back is just... Urg! I wish I had been there! I would have dealt out a way better punishment.

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    Have you discussed charging the child with assault? I have no personal experience with this, but it seems the school might "snap to" if they realize there is a real problem here that they have not prevented.
    I also don't know the feasibility of assault charges - though they seem warranted - and that's something I'd like to know for the future, if anyone can give input.
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    No matter the consequences to my son, (age 11), I tell him to never start a fight. But to never back down from one either. I also tell him that if the other kid hits him, KO the other kid. I've taught him to fight because others picked on me in school and I won't stand for him to go through it too. He has my same in your face attitude when pushed around.
    These teachers who ignore the bullies and punish the bullied kids needs an old fashioned tail whipping like their parents had. My wife is a former teacher and she told my son to ignore them, well that approach doesn't work - it creates another situation like Columbine. I teach my son to fight back and don't let up until the other kid knows he could have had the poo beat out of him. We don't play around in this school at all. Had one kid punch my son and my son beat the snot out of him- that solved that problem. Another kid tripped my son on purpose, I saw it happen. My son got up and knocked out a few teeth and that solved that poo eating grin on the other kids face. For some reason the others are afraid to pick on my son, can't figure out why?? And beware the boys that pick on girls, my son gets involved to help out the girls. He hates boys that pick on girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little View Post
    Have you discussed charging the child with assault? I have no personal experience with this, but it seems the school might "snap to" if they realize there is a real problem here that they have not prevented.
    I also don't know the feasibility of assault charges - though they seem warranted - and that's something I'd like to know for the future, if anyone can give input.
    If the kids are charged with assault, nothing gets done. They sit in detention and learn that detention is all fun and games and they get labeled as the tough ones on the block. That just makes the problems worse. The bullied need to fight back, some only learn through pain. Bullies get away with a slap on the wrist and it goes downhill from there, but if they get their tails beat they learn that being a bully hurts like nothing else.
    These schools are going in the wrong direction as usual and later the prisons will be full as usual with bullies. Why am I the only one that sees passive action as the Wrong action? Society is building a world of wimps and bullies. What happened to the good guys that stopped the stupid poo?

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    I called the school back and just got off the phone with them. She said kids can't be charged with assault until they're 10. Like Mark said, I don't know if that would help anything. I told her I knew she couldn't tell me about the other student's record, but wanted to know how they handled reoccurring behavior like this. She said they would call CPS if there were continuous problems. I made sure to tell her that I didn't think an early summer break was proper punishment, but I didn't know what other options the schools had.

    She said she understands that this is upsetting and shouldn't have happened & blah, blah, blah. I want my son to be able to handle himself, but I shouldn't have to worry about him being attacked at school. She said in elementary school, they're still trying to work out what special needs each kid has & make sure that they get the right placement. All I can say is, my son's handling this a lot better than me.

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    I think the site itself is causing the double-posts, as it seems to be happening to a lot of posters lately.

    I certainly don't disagree that kids should fight back - I was probably saved from a lot of physical bullying because I was fought back. But that doesn't help a small or weak child who gets pitted against a larger or stronger child, it doesn't help them when they get over the age of 10 and get charged with assault themselves because they beat the snot out of somebody who pushed them (not saying it's right, but I know it's possible,) and it certainly doesn't help them when the bullies resort to emotional abuse instead.
    Certainly it's upsetting and shouldn't have happened - so what do they plan to do about it in the future? Obviously, nothing. Calling CPS is not a solution.
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    My son's nowhere near the smallest in his class. He has a different temperament than most boys his age. He's rowdy sometimes & will rough house, but he won't purposefully cause someone harm. I hope he learns the difference between fighting and self defense. I don't think I should even have to worry about it when he's at school, but this is the real world & ever class has at least one bully. I'd be more than willing to fight his battles, but I can't always hold his hand. Hopefully he'll see what problems he's up against & learn how to deal with them.

    It broke my heart when he told me who did it & that he thought they were friends. That makes me think this situation is different than a problem with a bully.

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    I was talking to my friend about how I wished I had been there. I was with him yesterday for their track & field day. I asked why it couldn't have happened then. She says it was so I would not go to jail. Lol

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    It is sad and scary as a Mother to hear this, and anger is your friend but it is also not...

    You try to protect as much as possible, but the best protection I think is to send him to Karate lessons and have him learn self defense, if he has a soft nature, he will know how to stop a situation like that again, without killing the kid, but enabling others to see, don't mess with me, in a polite way....and it will also give him the protection in his mind that will help him enjoy his time at school...

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