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    Im 26 and Ive been clucky on and off for years, and i know its too early to want this with my new partner (6 months) but it just keeps getting worse and worse. I know theres nothing glamourous about it (im the eldest of 6 and remember the births of three, helped raise 3 at different stages, sometimes on my own) my best friend has a four year old that shes had on her own from day one, and ive seen how hard it can be but i swear to god im going bonkers!!! makes it all the worse that my partner has alot of friends with very young children (he's 31) and he's amazing with them, especially his god sons (three different families have made him a godfather--hes a good friend and awesome with kids)

    i havent told him how clucky i am (like i said waaay too early) but he's hinted in conversation that its not something he wants/is ready for. what if i have to wait til im 30!!! i dont think i could wait that long!!!

    i want to be with someone who wants the same things, when do i broach this subject with him? dont give a toss about being married, its fanciful but not important to me.
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    There is no set timeline to life. Ladies that get themselves caught up in "I need to be married by age XX and have my first baby by age XX" are setting themselves up for failure. If you KNOW it's way too early, then insist that your good judgment override societal pressures. No one is ever as ready as they think they are.

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    He's still married to somebody else. This is an AWFUL time to get pregnant - at least with his child. People need space and time on their own during and after a divorce. You would hate that as a pregnant woman!

    What about foster care? I don't know much about the foster care system in Australia, but it may help assuage your maternal instincts. Or volunteering at a children's organization in your free time. Certainly this wouldn't make up for not having the baby you want, but it may help for a while.

    As a last note, listen carefully when your partner speaks honestly about whether or when he wants children. People tend to sugarcoat these thoughts because they know they're a dealbreaker. Listen hard, and if he doesn't want what you want, get out! The biological clock is a real thing, and he might be getting it ticking in all the wrong ways.

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    If you want children, be with a bf who is enthusiastic about having them. Then all you have to do is to determine when to have them. Don't invest your time in someone and expect to change them. Having helped take care of my little sister and my little brother, I understand where you are coming from as to wanting children of your own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful Disaster View Post
    There is no set timeline to life. Ladies that get themselves caught up in "I need to be married by age XX and have my first baby by age XX" are setting themselves up for failure. If you KNOW it's way too early, then insist that your good judgment override societal pressures. No one is ever as ready as they think they are.
    nothing societal about this, this is chemical! (i dont exactly look like someone who goes by what society says is normal-im head to toe in tattoos of naked women, ive studied and worked in 4 different careers including the funeral industry, and 4 years in and out of the sex industry i dont particularly give a flying ... about society lol ---- i know its too early for him (he might not ever want them) its myself im listening to and my own body. like i said im not interested in getting married, i spoke to my friend last night and she said its a part of who i am and that i shouldnt be made to feel silly or embarassed about it being a priority in my life. (i mentioned to her that in the conversation we had about it that i pretty much pretended i wasnt interested in having kids anytime soon as i felt embarassed and silly that it was a priority of mine) she said just tell him openly its a priority and that i want kids within the next five years etc. still seems too long for me lol but its a non pushy guide to have a conversation around.

    your right jns if he doesnt want them flat out i have to move on, i dont believe in changing people, or expecting them to put up with stuff

    i know little, im not talking right now god it would be awful

    i called my friend last night and said im clucky u need to talk me down (she has a 4 year old) she said why? kids are great, have heaps lol but then we got talking about his ex and the situation and it seemed to put me off it pretty quick, with him anyway.

    foster care in Aus ive looked into it before but there are alot of rules regarding space, i live in a one bedroom apartment etc.

    just wanting that next part of my life to begin i guess, and i think i thought it was happening sooner. when i met my bf he moved things along very quickly for a man that had only been single a year. it was very unusual and i thought wow heres a guy that doesnt go by timelines that society dictates, he even said he didnt believe in structures like that and if u love someone u love someone etc. we were inseperable and he would talk about asking me to move in infront of his friends (after two months) but when i brought it up at 5 months once i was ready for the possibility he said he wasnt ready. he would also talk about kids alot (actually showed me a furry jumpsuit with ears that he STILL had in the cupord from a prospective child with his ex)....wow im writing this and cringing. he had considered kids with the dragon ex but not me, even though he is constantly telling me how much better things are with me.

    this has turned and is totally off topic, i think i need to suggest a break til he figures out what he wants (insert every imagineary expletive under the sun now)
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    You know, if YOU want a baby and YOU are ready, you don't necessarily have to wait for somebody else to help you do it. I understand your ticking biological clock (though I've never heard the term "clucky," I'll have to put that one into my vocabulary. I like it.) and the stresses of cultivating a relationship with somebody you really hope wants kids. Though I won't knock the difficulty of being a single parent, you'd be no worse off than any woman who didn't plan to raise a child alone.

    Would you consider having a child by sperm donor to be a single mom? Of course, this would complicate your relationship with your current boyfriend, but I'm talking just in general, is this something you'd do?

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    i think whenever a woman decides she want to be a mother she has to consider if she could do it on her own. ive always thought about it this way, my mum has been a single mum most of her life and so were many of her friends so its not a downfall in my eyes. we're all reasonably well ajusted and intelligent. i have alot of issues stemming from my stepmother (who partly raised me when i went to live with my dad, my mum moved north with another partner and kids at the time) she was and still is a very destructive person and i have alot of anger because of things she did and conditions i was raised it (continuous conflict, violence (not from my father he just did nothing) but thats a different story

    sperm donorship is very expensive and they'll only consider you after alot of rigmarol, by that time i may have found a willing partner and could use the money for the child etc

    my mum has said when u want a child u just go out and get one (obviously not caring whether the father wants to be around) but shes hardcore feminist and thinks u dont need men to have babies with if u dont want them (aside from the actual sperm)
    my best friend has a child (accident...she wasnt "shopping" as my mum would say, or wanting a kid at 20 and single) and decided not to tell the guy, i think he was a casual partner, no one knew about him shes very private etc not the sort of girl that tells her friends about her bf's and love life etc. still to this day not even her mum knows who the little girsl dad is and my friend is ok with that i think. the child is happy and smart and my friend works and is studying to be a teacher, rents an apartment etc.

    i dont think my bf would be happy if i did this lol and im sure he would view donorship as cheating all the same, or just weird. problem is he says i want to be with you forever, helped me buy a car, introduced me to family and friends in the first week etc and then it just changed. im so sick of being with men and having everything be on their terms. its when theyre ready and we either have to wait or move on. and to what? another man with baggage who wont commit or doesnt want kids.
    if i didnt enjoy his company so much and feel as though i need to put in another six months, i would leave and go find a baby donor lol. maybe a gay friend would be the way to go? lol

    clucky is a common term heer (ever owned chickens? ba-kirk! lol)

    what really gets to me is i was in a long term relationship with a 40 year old man who was ready for marriage and babies and i ended it, (he was a drinker and i couldnt handle it) and now im with a seperated guy who claims to want me, but i think he assumed that me being younger he would have all the time in the world to decide what he wanted, but i can only wait so long.

    im sooo angry and upset. i feel like i went into a relationship with a completely different person than the one im with now. i wish he'd get it through his head. im a 26 year old, non career obsessed female who values having kids. the only reason he considered having kids with the ex was it seemed like it was the next thing to do (after obtaining a good career, buying house getting married etc, hes told me this)

    now hes sweet cos he has a different mindset, younger gf with tattoos, different to his ex etc etc. i feel like i was judged and then taken in, but why the crazy sentiment at the start???
    If I knew where I was going I would already be there
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    If you meet the right man, you will be talking about having children in a short amount of time. Maybe a somewhat older guy, like your 40 year old ex. Someone who has everything stable in life and is also looking forward to the challenge. But such a guy is also going to want to know he will be able to be in his children's lives for the long haul.
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    im happy to have a father around for the "long haul" as long as he's treating me right. my bf is 31, owns a business, owns a house. if he's not ready at 31 i dont think he will ever be. we both may as well be 40.
    If I knew where I was going I would already be there
    I wish I had more time. Judicious, beautiful, augmented, whatever.
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    "I would go out tonight, but i havent got a stitch to wear!" Morissey

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    Yeah I don't think it has much to do with age. I think there are a lot more 20-something guys out there who want kids NOW than we may think.

    I don't like how you keep comparing yourself to his ex. I'm not sure where I'm going with this comment, but I just wanted to put that out there all the same. I don't know if he's making you feel like you're some kind of replacement or "newer model" or whatever? It just seems a little weird to me.

    Anyway it sounds like you're pretty convinced your boyfriend doesn't want kids. No shame in leaving an otherwise great relationship over this matter, as, let's face it... this is one of THE biggest deal-breakers out there.

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