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    Hi, my gf and I have been together for a little over a year. Just recently the skeletons of her closet have fallen out and I feel as though I may be buried in the cemetery. I’ll start by saying this is the first woman that I have truly cared for and I have had intentions of marrying her and having a family with her one day.

    Well the issues start with one day she said that her sex life with a past bf was ‘amazing’ to allegedly just to make me jealous. From that moment on I got very jealous. She then said that she only said that to get me mad and jealous but the thought never left my mind. Her past seemed to bother her so we talked about it and it seemed at the time that they were things she did not want to do, was not into, and regretted.

    She said she had self esteem issues and let guys take advantage of her and would drink let guys do what they wanted to her. Recently she told me that a lot of the things that she told me before were lies. Throughout this whole relationship I have felt that I was being lied to and I was she repeatedly lied about essentially everything regarding her past going as far as saying that she wouldn’t even kiss guys, move when on top, and only performed certain acts once with one person. She went as far as saying that she never felt a second of pleasure and felt totally numb when things happened in her past and she seemed traumatized by it.

    The lies completely ate at her and essentially at our relationship. One day I decided to contact her ex and ask him things because I felt as though I had enough of the lies and I wanted to hear the truth because her stories would change all the time. That same day she decided to tell me things herself. After a couple of more varying stories filled with lies on 3 separate occasions I told her to take a polygraph about things she says because I am tired of hearing a thousand stories with everything. Then the truth came out within a week I am where I stand now she wanted to come clean. So now I know that she at one point had Chlamydia which she never told me about even when I asked her if she had ever had anything. She had unprotected sex with 4 out of the 5 guys she was with when she previously told me only one. She used to kiss guys and tongue them when she said she didn’t. She said that she performed oral sex on 4 guys when before she said she only did it once to one guy. She said she wouldn’t move but now she says that she would ride guys and etc.

    When I spoke to her ex he said that she was very sexual, a freak. That she would perform oral sex on him often and that she would move a lot during. That she would always initiate sexual acts and was drunk only once when they did things. She told me that she performed oral sex on him once and that what he said was untrue. I still don’t believe that she felt no pleasure ever from another guy it just doesn’t make sense but she sticks to it. Is that even possible?

    She completely messed up my head and I don’t know what to think about anything. I feel like I have spent my whole relationship with a fraud and everything that we have shared means nothing because all the things that were ‘special’ to her were actually been there done that ordeals. And now I don’t know what to believe because she is a compulsive liar. I need help, advice, and therapy lol please help. How can I believe anything that comes out of her mouth? How can I move on from this I still love her but this was too much to handle.
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    Her past is past and nothing she can do will change it. Many people have things in their pasts that they would rather forget. She should be open about what her life is like now - as should you. But I think she has a right to keep private things that happened earlier in her life. If there are things she wants you to know, she will tell you when she is ready.

    I'm afraid I find your post worrysome. You are asking about details of her sexual behavior, you talk about a polygraph test. You've contacted her ex's. If I were her, and my SO treated my like that I would leave. There are things in my past that on one has a right to know.

    You ask for advice. Mine is - stop asking, stop being suspicious. If you love her, then accept that there may be ugly things in her past - and that you may never know all of them. If you can't love someone under those conditions, find someone with less of a past.
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    At least you have a slight bit of humor going on there. lol.

    Well, I think that my problem with this story is that she stated "I've had better" presumably to make you jealous.

    But, the whole time she's played the innocent girl.

    I would have understood if she had played innocent all the way through and then cried and blurted out that she didn't want you to know, because it is you she loves and she made mistakes.

    But, she seems to tell part truths, then follows through with lies, and then tells lies, and follows through with truths.

    Compulsive lier.


    Has in her admissions, she ever stated why she lied? ie) she was embarrased at being so stup1d with her body before you?

    I just don't feel comforatable with the " I've had better than you" that's disrespect full stop and you deserver better than that.

    People speak the truth when hurt or angry, what comes out is what they mean.

    Not putting you down at all, you probably are the first person whom actually loved her and cared for her, instead of using her for sex only.

    I would also, not being rude, go and get a blood test to ensure that you do not have anything to worry about... as I said not being rude but she has already un-fortunately fallen for one STD, you need to make sure you are ok.

    I think that she is not aware that she has someone worthwhile in her life, based only on little you have told us.

    And, I think you deserve someone whom loves you un-conditionally can discuss their past openly and be accepted for what they did, if they are a different person now.

    We can't change our past, but we can work with our present and our future.

    Only, you know wether she can stop the lying now or if she can't help herself and therefore, you have to be strong and walk away.

    However, i also agree with the above poster, her past is her past... As I said, we can't change it.

    And, whilst you are trying to establish the truth a polygram is way over the top, if you can't get the truth out of someone openly, then there is no relationship and yes, it is distrubing that you did.


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    To clear it up the reason that I wanted to polygraph or something like that is because she has told me 5 different stories herself and I heard another story from someone else so I pretty much have no idea what to believe.
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    Exclamation additional info.

    Also adding on, the whole polygraph thing was just brought up a few days ago. That as only after lies throughout the relationship about various things. Some of her stories when she thought it was over were that she wanted to, and liked engaging in acts with others which completely contradicts things she said so this leaves me in the twilight zone. Thanks for the first 2 replies, and I have been tested since I met her in December and everything was fine.
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    Absoultely, understand, it's called frustration.

    But, if a person tells you 5 different "truths" you know the truth. That, is that she is not telling it.

    No point going down any further path really.

    And, what we both meant via "not on" is exactly that. If a guy asked me to do that it's like interigation and well, if i was honest, i would simply walk out on him.

    No point having "non-trust" in a relationship.

    You dont, it does not appear that she has told you the truth over and over again, therefore, you deserve better.

    But, that method is not really the way to go is all we are saying.

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    "I don't care what the truth is, but if you tell me something other than the truth from now no, I'm moving on"

    It's very hard to do, but believe it from someone who went through something very similar, if she lies about this, she'll lie about _____ (fill in the blanks)
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    I also understand she may be ashamed of what shes done in the past, or uncomfortable with it or whatever. but if she cant feel comfortable enough telling you the truth, then there's no use continuing on...
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    I'm not sure I agree with that. Imagine someone who worked as a prostitute - then got their life cleaned up. I could see how they might never want to tell someone about that history, and if it was just history, I don't see why they should (assuming they have had themselves checked for diseases that is).


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    I also understand she may be ashamed of what shes done in the past, or uncomfortable with it or whatever. but if she cant feel comfortable enough telling you the truth, then there's no use continuing on...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcoreyus View Post
    I'm not sure I agree with that. Imagine someone who worked as a prostitute - then got their life cleaned up. I could see how they might never want to tell someone about that history, and if it was just history, I don't see why they should (assuming they have had themselves checked for diseases that is).

    Mmmm... we're going to dispute there rcoreyus

    Part of me agrees as I always say past is past.

    But, communication is highly important in a long term relationship and you should be able to say "anything" to the person you expect to spend the rest of your life with and know that you will have their "understanding" no matter how bad it is.

    Firstly, imagine keeping that to yourself all your life.

    Secondly, imagine that he develops a new friend and then introduces that friend to his now "wife" And, then the "new friend" blurts it all out to him a little bit further down the track?

    I think long term relationships should be built around honesty, trust and no skeletons in the closet.

    I believe that for the initial term, where there is no real indication of marriage at that stage, you have a right to keep past, in the past, but not if that person is going to be in your life for the rest of your life.

    Not in the situation you are explaining:- "Prostitution"... It's a small world..

    Hard call but that's why we are all different.

    And, therefore, think differently.

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