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    Hi everyone,

    Just a heads up- I'm new here and I'd really appreciate any feedback or advice.

    My name's Erin and I'm a 24 year old from Australia.

    I am currently seeing a psych in person about some anxiety related issues- but my visits to him haven't been occuring lately as much...so things have got me down.

    My problem goes like this:

    Earlier in the year, I was introduced to a new friend by a colleague. I liked this new friend (P) and for the most part, we got on reasonably well.

    Some nights after work, we'd all go out drinking- I was never one to drink to the point of being drunk- I don't like being in that place, but on some occasions- I'd get quite tipsy with both of these friends.

    In these times, P would often tell us about who she liked or who'd she'd slept with- something, after a few drinks, she was quite willing to discuss.

    Anyway, one particular night, my colleague and I met at P's house. She had a friend over- someone who I hadn't met and my colleague and I discovered he was coming with us for our after work drink.

    P acted quite distant from him for the most part- and so I figured they probably weren't seeing eachother. I had no intention of pursueing him- but I just made that observation.
    She actually got cross with him on the evening we met for breaking her camera accidentally.

    I got talking to (T) the guy who had joined us and we discovered we had similar interests and likes and we also became friends.

    Fast forward a couple of weeks: I am having drinks with P and my colleague for my birthday at the local pub.
    All of a sudden P sees T and says "Well, this is awkward" and I can't figure out why. I don't think much more of it. T joins our table and as P and my colleague talk (they usually talk among themselves- I find it easier to listen) I talk to T. We chat for ages about our favourite musicians, biology and a few other things- I realise I do like him somewhat. He eventually asks for my number and later in the week we arrange for coffee, in the form of a date.

    My real problem lies in this next part. I'm sorry for the small essay.

    I was talking to P on the internet about my coffee with T- she had asked so I thought she was genuinely interested and wanting to know the details. She said something along the lines of "You two seemed to have got on well". I said that I do like T and can see something going further with him.
    P began to act strangly online at this point and her responses became short and edgy- she was saying things like "Well, you too have a good relationship" and when I asked if something was wrong, she'd immediately clam up and say no. I began to suspect I'd done something wrong and it seemed I had, as she quickly jumped offline and the next day, deleted me as a friend on facebook.

    Being me, I stewed over this for the next couple of weeks. I worry myself to the point of vomiting.

    I decided to ask my colleague about P's actions, at which she said:
    "T and P had been going out- they'd just broken up just before the day of your birthday drinks". I knew my colleague as an acquaintence if anything, someone I was still getting to know and I knew what her drinking habits were like- I'd seen her get unbelievably drunk and come out with some incredible things. Often rehashes or wrong retellings of various stories. I began to wonder and panic- that in my times of being tipsy- had I not recalled that P had mentioned T? I'd never ever consider going on a date with him if she had. I don't believe in that sort of thing.

    As well as this, T had and I had spoken indepth about our relationships from the past. I had asked him at coffee if had been seeing P at all. He'd said no and I'd trusted him- we had laid it all out on the table.

    After more excessive worrying, I eventually broke down. I was in my car at the time and parked down near the river. I rang T and told him I needed to meet him for the real details. He'd spoken to P- because he'd seen how distressed I was- and she had said there'd been a big misunderstanding with the whole thing. T confirmed he hadn't gone out with P- that they had liked eachother somewhat in the past, (possibly gone out for a short while) but there was no relationship presently.

    Call me paranoid, but P is one of those people who don't talk honestly or will cover things up to 'make things better'....so I don't know if she told him that to make the problem go away.

    I don't know if she liked him and I've 'taken him'...I'm so confused.

    Regardless of it all, I wanted to pursue the relationship with him. I'm in love with T and we've been going out for a month.

    I feel horrid about it all still though- I feel so guilty. I don't know if I have done something wrong or not. I worry that she had spoken about him and I don't remember and I worry that she did like him and I've taken him away.

    I'm not one of those girls who does that sort of thing. I never would be.

    Anyway, after so much worry I decided to contact P again just recently and she replied with this:

    Hey Erin.

    I have no issue with you.
    Hope you are well :-)

    After I'd said: I know it's been a long time coming- and I'm sorry to bother you. I've had a really tough time lately. I just want to know where were at- that's all. I'm so confused about everything.

    Even with this message, I feel she is lying to hide a problem. I still worry even though she has supposedly forgiven me...for whatever happened. I'm so confused.

    She never added me back on facebook and when I did see her in person recently, she scuttled off and hid at another table.

    How do I stop the guilt? Am I a bad person?

    I feel like I've done what I can to fix our friendship and that she has acted childishly in solving the problem/resuming our friendship. Is that a fair call?

    T and I are really in love and I feel like I'm stunting the relationship because of this reoccuring problem.

    Thanks,

    Erin.

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    Hi Erin... what a tangled web this is! The good news is, you're not a bad person, you haven't done wrong, and you went above and beyond the call of friendship to fix whatever misunderstanding took place.

    P sounds like the passive agressive type. She will smile to your face, but be seething inside, and take it out on you by cutting social ties, gossiping, etc... anything other than speak with you directly about her feelings. This is HER problem, not yours. You tried to be an adult and talk to her about what happened. She refused. All in all, you've probably done yourself a favor. People come in and out of our lives all the time for various reasons, and people like P usually end up ruining friendships at one point or another anyhow because of their lack of communication skills and sense of entitlement. This is one "friend" your better off not having anyway. Stay civil to her when you see her, make her acquantance when you bump into her, and don't waste one more thought on her. You have nothing to be guilty about.

    Enjoy your new found love with T and move on, you deserve to be happy! And food for thought: Perhaps P came into your life strictly so that you and T could meet. The world works in mysterious ways, you know...
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    Thank you so much for your prompt reply. Your answer means a lot to me too. It makes sense.

    I've thought about the situation quite deeply as you can see- and I've often thought a similar thing- do I really want such an immature person as a friend? She may be great in other ways- but I don't think our friendship would've continued for much longer anway.

    I'm really lucky to have T. I count my blessings every day since I've met him.

    Your reply has made me feel really positive.

    Thankyou again,

    Erin

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    I agree with KM. I was in a simliar situation with a friend who acted like she did not like this particular guy and spoke quite horribly of him, then our freindship fell apart when she found out we were talking/had been out a couple times. I tried to fix things because I never would have approached him had I known she had feelings for him, but she was too busy acting like she didn't care. Either way...you didn't know. I hope things work out. Just go with it and don't let P rain on your parade. She could have been open up front and she wasn't.
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    You've done nothing wrong, so what is there to feel guilty about?

    Do you know how many people would give their left arm to be in love? You have that, and you're letting some jealousy of another female overshadow it! Ask yourself, even if she secretely hates you, is she REALLY worth it?

    "Be what you're looking for."

    "The next time you're thinking of kicking someone when they're down, offer them your hand and help them back up instead."



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    I know it's been a while coming, but I just wanted to say thankyou to you both- kygirl and Beautiful Disaster. Your words both meant a lot to me. I've decided to abandon any friendship with P- I don't feel it's worth it. She isn't worth it.
    Thanks again guys, your replies have made me feel a lot better.

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