Dear A.W.F - Who ever told you that life was meant to have good without any bad, or health without any sickness, or life that was everlasting on earth A.W.F.? God allowed this situation for me to reach out to him, God allowed terminal illnesses in this life - who lives and who dies is not our choice - nor would we as humans and screwed up as we are be able to figure out who should live or die a what time. We all die, it's everyone's fate. The circumstances are merely different for some than others. Who told you God "makes everything happen" anyway? God allows natural outcomes of the harsh aspects of life in everyone's lives. Why some people have larger burdens than other's is something our limited minds wouldn't even begin to fathom I doubt. We all have pain and sorrow in our lives, no one told us any different. Why did my brother drown? Why did my mom get cancer, why did my grandmother die of cancer in my arms, why do I have a mind that has "faulty wiring" where the chemicals affect my moods and behaviors?

Why is not our problem, and you of all people I would think would be an advocate of stop asking why, stop blaming, and that means God also. Life is merely life, a gift, hard or difficult, long or short. In between birth and death is the mystery of who we are and we ourselves do not even know how we were put together or what actually holds this earth and galaxy in place. Your opinion of if God exists, as obviously you I expect are agnostic, or atheist... but whatever your opinion, it does not change the face that we, are human and we all have our human experiences and reactions to both the joys and sorrows of life.

As to the "clutching at straws to make yourself feel better" comment - that is pretty "high and mighty" if you mind the expression People have highs and lows, sickness and health, experiences that we have been through that make us stronger and some of those we pass on to others to encourage them that their pain is not so uncommon and the desire to feel "unalone" in a situation is normal. I dare say you have probably asked for opinion or help or insight here yourself. You ask for help in other's opinions, as i do also, however I also ask for prayer because it is something I believe in and my faith is "my crutch" as so many people like to put it. Crutch - certainly, a crippled person walks with a crutch, someone provides that crutch. God provides my means of "walking on." Believe or not, that is not my concern to convince you anything. But it is my concern that you step back and allow people to heal and ask for help with the help of others who share similar faiths.

I hope you find out the whys of terminal illnesses, pain, suffering, and all the evil destructive things that people do to one another or that can happen due to disease or disaster. You know, maybe people die because God really just wanted to spend time with them, his creation. But you probably wouldn't believe that. I don't have all the answers, but never claimed to, so you not knowing all the answers either, I'd appreciate your not commenting if you just want insult what is obviously my personal faith.

If you are now going to give me the speech about why if I'm such a believer did I become a mistress, do the hurtful things I did, why was I being such a "sinner?" Because that's the point, we're human and we all sin and sin is pleasurable and sin is attractive and I was weak and chose to do what I did. Wrong yes... But the God I believe it loves sinners, otherwise he wouldn't have done what he did so I could still be in relationship with him even when I am human and do wrong and awful things. That's my God, Jesus. Your God, I don't know what you consider your God, perhaps you have decided you are your own God, or there is no point because of whatever.

I do appreciate you viewpoints, but please stop asking questions about why your "God" or the God someone put in your mind "did such and such to you" or others to prove some kind of point that because there is awful pain in this world and because unjust and painful things are in this world THOSE are God's fault. Stop with the fault already, if you want to look for faults, look for your own first. Here was your choice, to treat me nicely and with kindness even if you did disagree with my request for prayer, or just ignore the post, but YOU chose to PURPOSELY create pain in another person and be insulting about it at the same time, simply to stir the tension. So, you seem to be playing that terrible god you ask those questions about - so... why are you so mean - why in your God choice of doing that or not doing that did you choose to hurt another human being when you know how much pain was in me in the first place. Stop playing games with people merely to amuse yourself here. Think what you want to think, but do not insult my request for help, regardless if it was asking for help in a means that you find pathetic. I don't really care if you pray for me or not, I care that you go around making a mockery of what others hold dear simply because you demand proof and defense of why your life or others or this world is the way it is. I needed help and encouragement, not belittlement of my reaching out for other's help to encourage my faith in God during my difficulties. I certainly don't have all the answers, but your comments to me were simply not helpful, and especially under the circumstances quite upsetting on top of an already upsetting situation I find my life in right now. A human situation I got myself into and wanted encouragement to get through things and heal. Obviously I believe God is a source I choose to look toward for life questions and answers and help as well as many others. If you don't believe, work that out on your own but don't tear my faith down to create some kind of debate for your own self satisfaction. That's just selfish in this case, you know i was asking for empathy and needed to feel less alone in my outreach for God and healing. Why stomp on someone's faith just because you can. In my opinion, in this case you liked being your version of your controlling negative God that hurts others just because he can. That's not my God. Please don't contact me if you choose to destroy people with your commentary when they sincerely need empathy and caring.

I said what I said because I wanted you to think about doing something for yourself, instead of relying on the world fixing whatever is wrong on its own. I said it a little bluntly, as I was fairly drunk at the time. The intention of my words was for your own good, not to hurt you. Remember what I said about saying what I think people should hear, not what they want to hear? I believe you agreed.

I would develop a longer and more comprehensive post, but for fear of treading on some toes I'm going to stay silent..

[quote=anonymouswhitefemale;37108]I said what I said because I wanted you to think about doing something for yourself, instead of relying on the world fixing whatever is wrong on its own. I said it a little bluntly, as I was fairly drunk at the time. The intention of my words was for your own good, not to hurt you. Remember what I said about saying what I think people should hear, not what they want to hear? I believe you agreed.

I would develop a longer and more comprehensive post, but for fear of treading on some toes I'm going to stay silent..[/quote

Anon.

You can offer very good advise here, because you have been there, so to speak.

Being drunk, stoned, is not relevant therefore.

And yes, this is you direct, straight to the point, yet there is still a side of you despite you having "fun" that wants to help, in my opinon...

Nothing wrong irrespective of ones believe, i feel, it is not about soemtimes what they need to hear, i believe that that is important without a doubt, but if people also believe in God, then that may guide them as well, as what you have to say, as they are open and listen to both.

You can tread of my toes, if i am one, i will never be offended, i like your ideas, and mindset and direct approach... Truly...

But you know, i'll still stick to that's her believe and i will pray as i asked people to do so for my man, and the only think i don't believe in is this difference between all the ways in which it exists, i mean Tom Cruise? And his? Verses, what ever. Who cares.

Believe or not, or believe in what you want.

In this instance she is right...

It is her belief in the way that she believes and i believe i am just not sure what agrees with me, just a belief..

So if hearts are involved so be it, i think.

I commend you in all respect, and i mean that.

But if she believes then it has nothing to do at all with "remember what i told you", nothing.

What you told her is fact, true and real.

But belief is a belief and each to there own.

Sorry, but that is also a fact.

In again, upmost respect as i do, you hit a different cord and one that should be listened to, but people need to be, well them as well...

Miss Understood, i still love your goals, but one step at a time, will help you achieve them i believe and what ever faith you have. will assist you.

I believe that ANON is correct in as much as, look outside the square as well, and that is a true statement.... He is right.

Add it all and combine it...

CW

Dear C.W. - I appreciate your words and your ability to have outside perspective. I agree with you C.W., and appreciate that you point out that even though you and I may not have the same views on everything, you were wonderful enough just as a person of kindness to realize my need and understood that prayer is something important to my healing process, just knowing others are thinking of me and join me in the hope of things turning around and my gaining a turn for the better in my life. In my original post I did ask specifically people of faith in Jesus simply because that is my faith and did not want to make people of any different faith or view feel they need respond. That being said, your post was extra kind in my opinion becasue you went for the "heart" my my need - someone to come along side me and support me in a way that I hoped to gain support, not that other ways should not be helpful, but you chose to focus on what was important for me to feel supported. I really want to thank you for that.

I don't expect all readers of my post to believe what I believe, I simply wanted to receive prayer and expected those who would be most willing and have a heart to actually do that would be someone who already has a prayer life with Christ. The overwhelming part of your helping me was that you didn't focus on helping me as you saw fit, but in a way I hoped to be helped. I didn't want people to disect my faith or my situation, just "gather with me" in the same way (that being prayer) that I was reaching out to my source of strength who is Jesus. I didn't say prayer alone was the exclusivity of the kind ways I could be helped, but in this case I just wanted some likeminded individuals to reach outside of themselves in a similar way. I certainly am reaching out in other practical ways, like being here on this site, like going to a doctor, like trying to take care of my health and find my inner strenth, rest, remind myself of good things... but this way was special for me which is why I wrote that in my first line in the original post.

You have been above and beyond to be quite the mediator of different views and also saw beyond the forrest for the trees... in that you prayed even if you thought we may or do have differences in faith. So, thank you for your kindness and thank you for your helping me try to see A.W.F. perspective as well. I hope that we'll have peace between all of us A.W.F. Sincerely, Miss U.

One thing we do have in common, is "deep"... You express deeply and so do i, but you are right, we are all different people.

Some say to be honest, i have "foot in mouth decease", oops speak before i think, others, "interferring" - butt out - and then a comment comes up " with heart", as you wrote.

I guess that is me, i can't and don't want to change that side of who i am, i do speak for sure sometimes un-welcomed and i'm glad that on this occasions, it was welcomed.

Thank you for those comments they were un-expected, however you also made me realise something and that is that regardless, keep speaking from the heart even if you are interferring.. because that is me...

And why would i want to be anyone else?

CW

You are blaming God for all the problems of the world. You need to seek spiritual counseling. God does not put illnesses on people. There are many reason why your brother may have gotten an illness. God is a healer - not a killer.

EXACTLY >..well said commonsence!! thank you