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    Default My girlfriend doesn't masturbate.

    Hi ladies, I just read a thread about a guy with a girlfriend that masturbates even though they have sex about 5 times a week. I have the opposite problem and need some advice.

    Here's my story. I'm 28, my girl is 23, and we've been together for three years. I love her more than anything and want to spend the rest of my life with her, but our sex life is lacking. She thinks everything is just fine, and is apparently satisfied, but I'm not. I don't tell her this, but I've had a much more satisfying sex life with past girlfriends. The biggest problem for me is that the sex is very inconsistant and we only do it about 2 - 3 times per week (about half what I prefer). Since the beginning, she has always wanted it less than me, and because I love her I've adapted, though I've always hoped that she would start to want it more (hasn't happened). On top of this, she is by far the most difficult woman to please that I've ever been with. I'd say my success rate is about 50/50. And of course this kills my ego and crushes my confidence. This sucks because she is also by far the most gorgeous woman I've ever been with and I absolutely love being sexual with her. What's confusing to me is that sometimes she comes within the first 5 - 10 minutes, and then other times she doesn't even seem to get close. I try to do all the things that are recommended to get your lady in the mood (I also do these thing because I love her). I cook, clean, rub her back, massage her feet, give her lots of love, buy her little gifts, hold her hand, cuddle, tell her daily that she is drop dead gorgeous, light a candle in the bedroom, go down on her, etc. There is no lack of effort on my part, but if you think there is still something more I can do let me know.

    I understand that a girl can enjoy sex even if she doesn't climax, but it bothers me that she doesn't always get hers because I know she won't give herself one. My girlfriend NEVER masturbates! I know some of you will say or at least think that she does but won't admit to it, but I'm telling you she honestly does not ever masturbate. I've tried to talk to her about it but she gets EXTREMELY upset. She does not want to masturbate, and I can't figure out why. I think that she needs to learn to masturbate so she can more fully understand her sexuality and what pleases her. Sometimes when we are fooling around, I can tell she's not super turned on, so I'll ask what I can do. But she never has an answer for me. I think this is because she doesn't know how to pleasure herself. So in the end the only person responsible for getting her off is me! Honestly, that is a burden that I do not want and I think its unfair. I've tried to talk to her about masturbating and exploring, so we can have a more open sex life, but she shuts me down every time. Is it normal for a woman to object this strongly to masturbating? I'm worried that maybe there was some kind of sexual abuse when she was younger, but I can't ask that. Should we see a sex therapist?

    Help! Thanks!

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    With sex be it men or women. "Trying" and worrying about orgasm always makes it harder to reach. Try some time to climax RIGHT NOW! You will probably find it isin't easy. Women have the same problem perhapes a little worse.

    What you do in bed also has a big impact on how often she reaches orgasm. I don't know about her but if all we did was intercourse I would probably never have an orgasm. Oral sex works for me and for many years our "routine" was for him to get me to climax that way and then we finished with intercourse so he could climax.

    We saw a very good educational sex video where the couple put a Hitachi Magic Wand vibe between them while they did intercourse. All I can say is RUN to the store and get one. If you want her to more easily climax? This will help. She may have to put a towel between it and her but wow... It so works for us and is the normal way we have intercourse.

    Try not to "obsess" about whats going on with her orgasm wise. Taking off the pressure and NOT being annoying and asking every time "Did you come?" is a good start. I can't tell you how unbearable old being asked if I came can be. If she has a problem that she wants you to deal with let her tell you. ok?

    Good luck.
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    thanks for the feedback, but it didn't really answer my question. I don't ask her every time whether or not she came, because I know when she doesn't, and I've read enough magazines to know that girls hate to be asked that question. I do my best, and if she doesn't come then she doesn't come. We don't always just have sex and we try new things. I'm very very open to oral and love giving it to her, but she doesn't always want it. I can try the magic wand, but in general she is opposed to using toys during sex and this seems to be related to her opposition to masturbation as well. She won't talk to me if there is a problem because she doesn't recognize that there is a problem. Of course this means that its only my opinion that there is one, which sucks. I don't think that there is anything wrong with her, and I don't want her to think that either. I'm just trying to expand her sexuality. I'm ok with her not always being turned on by me but what about her fantasizing about somebody else? Isn't that what women do when masturbating? Is it not healthy for woman to masturbate?? If you're wondering why I care so much its because when the girl I'm with doesn't reach orgasm neither do I! Yes I ejaculate, but I don't orgasm. So really, neither of us get off and in my view it shouldn't be like this.

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    zeos I think you might be obsessing too much about her sexual response. Does she complain about it to you? If not I would back up and just enjoy what you have. I'm not super keen on masturbation myself but when we put the vibe between us I don't see it as masturbation but more as a simple enhancement to our sex lives.

    Good luck!
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    If a woman had never experienced a mind blowing orgasm and didn't know that they exited would she ever complain? no, of course not. If my girlfriend thinks that everything is fine then she's not going to complain either. But I know from experience that the sex and the sexual energy that two people share can be stronger than what I'm experiencing. And the girls I've been with that had the most intense orgasms (which also translated into more intense ones for me) were very open to sex, fantasies, and masturbation. so in my mind I read this as girls who masturbate have more intense orgasms. But I'm not sure how true this is. I don't want to back up and just enjoy what I have because I know that it can be better. My girlfriend seems to have a fundamental objection to masturbation that I don't understand.

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    Now that I've read your other thread, it seems you just have differing opinions on sex and it's not something you'll be able to change in her. She isn't defective, she's just not a very sexual person.
    If she's happy like she is, why would you want to change her? There are many women in the world with higher sex drives and a higher regard for sex in general with whom it seems you would be much happier. Really, your choices are:
    1. Continue to suffer (as it seems you're doing) with your girlfriend's low sex drive that is unlikely to change
    2. Accept that low sex drive and move on from the issue. After all, there are many mismatched couples, even on this board, in which one member would give anything for 2-3 times a week.
    3. End the relationship. You both have a right to be happy, and if you're not, it's bound to rub off on the relationship as a whole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little View Post
    Now that I've read your other thread, it seems you just have differing opinions on sex and it's not something you'll be able to change in her. She isn't defective, she's just not a very sexual person.
    If she's happy like she is, why would you want to change her? There are many women in the world with higher sex drives and a higher regard for sex in general with whom it seems you would be much happier. Really, your choices are:
    1. Continue to suffer (as it seems you're doing) with your girlfriend's low sex drive that is unlikely to change
    2. Accept that low sex drive and move on from the issue. After all, there are many mismatched couples, even on this board, in which one member would give anything for 2-3 times a week.
    3. End the relationship. You both have a right to be happy, and if you're not, it's bound to rub off on the relationship as a whole.
    So in your opinion my options are to suffer, accept it, or end it? That's a very defeatist attitude and has never been part of my personality. Maybe getting her to masturbate isn't the answer, but there must be a way to further encourage her sexuality. I don't care if she maturbates or not, but I was looking for a girls opinion as to whether in general girls that masturbate enjoy sex more or have higher sex drives. The causal relationship is unclear to me. Do girls with high sex drive masturbate more, or do girls that masturbate have a higher sex drive? I don't know. For me, and I'm a guy, the more I masturbate, the more I think about sex, and the more I want it. So effectively it Increases my sex drive. I have much faith in my girlfriends sexuality. She is not completely sexually inept. We frequently have increadible sex and she has an amazing body. But she is young, 23, and I don't think she has fully blossomed sexually. I understand it will happen with time, but some things don't happen if you don't explore. She argues that none of her friends that are in relationships maturbate. Maybe this is generally true for woman. I don't know.

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    Women aren't quite like men. I've always had a high sex drive but didn't masterbate much when I was younger - probably because I got a lot more sex, far more often. Everyone is different. Waking her sexually first requires that she has an awareness and desire to go there. How about some erotic reading? Anis Nin comes to mind as a real woman who's diaries are interesting. The Story of O - that's edgier, there is ton of stuff, look for things by women. There is a lot of good erotica written by men but it has a different feel. Your GF needs to connect to the sensual desire that women hold in feeling pleasure right now, later she could come to connect to the added intensity of a man's pleasure blended with hers. What the Bleep? Has a wonderful segment of female sensuality when she uses an eye pencil to draw elaborate designs all over her body. Self pleasure doesn't have ot be just masterbation.
    Get a copy of Extended Massive Orgasm, it deals almost entirely with women's orgasm by hand. You can learn ways of helping her relax into it and experience a higher level of responsiveness. Once she gets more into her body, other things will become more natural to her.
    You can't make her, she has to want it. You can help her discover what she's been missing, but just as men can suffer from performance anxiety so can women! Spend some time making just about her, massage, candles, finger foods, work on mood and her arrousal without expectation, just gently and lovingly pleasuring her. Have you seen 40 Days and 40 Nights where she comes as he carresses her body with a branch of orchids? It's an amazingly erotic scene. He doesn't do anything "sexual" but she is still arroused to orgasm - woman can do that, it's as much mind as body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    Women aren't quite like men. I've always had a high sex drive but didn't masterbate much when I was younger - probably because I got a lot more sex, far more often. Everyone is different. Waking her sexually first requires that she has an awareness and desire to go there. How about some erotic reading? Anis Nin comes to mind as a real woman who's diaries are interesting. The Story of O - that's edgier, there is ton of stuff, look for things by women. There is a lot of good erotica written by men but it has a different feel. Your GF needs to connect to the sensual desire that women hold in feeling pleasure right now, later she could come to connect to the added intensity of a man's pleasure blended with hers. What the Bleep? Has a wonderful segment of female sensuality when she uses an eye pencil to draw elaborate designs all over her body. Self pleasure doesn't have ot be just masterbation.
    Get a copy of Extended Massive Orgasm, it deals almost entirely with women's orgasm by hand. You can learn ways of helping her relax into it and experience a higher level of responsiveness. Once she gets more into her body, other things will become more natural to her.
    You can't make her, she has to want it. You can help her discover what she's been missing, but just as men can suffer from performance anxiety so can women! Spend some time making just about her, massage, candles, finger foods, work on mood and her arrousal without expectation, just gently and lovingly pleasuring her. Have you seen 40 Days and 40 Nights where she comes as he carresses her body with a branch of orchids? It's an amazingly erotic scene. He doesn't do anything "sexual" but she is still arroused to orgasm - woman can do that, it's as much mind as body.

    Thanks! That was helpful

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    zeos
    . So in the end the only person responsible for getting her off is me! Honestly, that is a burden that I do not want and I think its unfair.
    zeos
    So in your opinion my options are to suffer, accept it, or end it? That's a very defeatist attitude and has never been part of my personality.
    So it's un-fair that you chose a partner, whom maybe was bought up in a way, fashion that masterbation, and orgasms, are not part of sex and therefore, she is not "open" to that discussion nor wanting to be that way. She may feel it's tarty to do so, some women do.

    So you think that it is un-fair that she is not "willing" to change her attitude for you.

    And you feel it's a burden on you to get her off, she should be willing and doing, and making you feel all man....

    I didn't read, suffer, accept it , or end it, I read... You are trying to change this woman to suit you, to be what you have had before, what you loved, in a sexual partner and she doesn't want to.

    So, you either have to go with the love, and take it as it is, ( not suffer), because you love her, therefore, you have to realise that that is her being, she doesn't want to change her ways of thoughts, so therefore, that's the way it is, and alternatively, if its the sex life you crave in the fashion of which you were accustomed to and therefore want and she is not willing to explore, change, then you have a decision to make, love or sex?

    Or, therefore find someone that you have an excellent sexual chemistry and relationship with that you also fall in love with.

    Thereby, a true connection in all aspects.

    What is more important to you therefore?

    Loving this woman and never wanting to let her go, or having the type of sex you desire?

    You can't change someone nor should you ask them to change for you. I appreciate that there should be compromise and she is not compromising in that department but you can't change her. She has made the decision that she wants to be the way she is, sexually, there is nothing you can do.

    It doesn't mean she was abused. And, throwing that at her would be a mistake, you didn't say you would, I am not saying that you did, I am saying it's not necessarily the reason. She may just feel it's tarty to let go. Not all women have no inhibitions with their man and sometimes they learn later in life that actually it's good to be sexually free.

    It's the make up of the person.

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