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    Zeos, I think I know what you mean. For some people masterbation is an activity of choice but then for others of us, it just serves to provide an immediate release. Its more like smelling the banquet than eating it. I'm frankly tired of it, had years of it then got just enough really good sex to get very hungry again and got shut off.

    Thank you for pointing out that women aren't the only ones with trouble with the on and off stuff. We all have a one gender experience to draw on, it's good to remember that it's more a human problem than a female or male one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild
    Personally I'm getting really frustrated with the double standard.
    I don't think one gender really makes the other feel defective more than the other. Whoever is frustrated will have a hard time convincing the other that they're normal - since they're not the way they want them to be.

    In terms of other aspects of equality - if a man approaches his woman for sex, he gets a tap on the shoulder or something, he just sucks it up, grumbles, and goes and watches some sport or something. If a man dares turn down his woman, then what is he saying is wrong with her? Isn't it an insult? How dare he treat me like this, makes me feel so cheap blah blah. You can't say that women take getting turned down even a quarter as well as men have to. The double standard that I see is that men are just not capable of not 'being in the mood' (as far as women know).

    To be honest, unsexual women are frigid, and in my opinion unsexual males are also frigid. Before there has been too much emotional investment I would really recommend breaking up a relationship in which both parties are not sexually satisfied, be it the male or female being 'defective'.

    Zeos, I had a relatively non-responsive relationship for quite a while, and porn and masturbation had to become ingrained in my lifestyle, since my sexual outlet (her) was pretty much shut down. In terms of my sexual health, that probably hasn't been very good for me, teaching me to separate my sexuality from actual life, and into this artificial world of watching relatively disgusting things in a dark room on your own - a choice I would not make but was perhaps partially made for me. (though that relationship is over and I think I've managed to find myself a highly-sexed ' buddy', maybe that will fix me some)

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    Good perspective Anony, thank you. Perhaps you are right, we women can dish it out but don't know how to take it? We can each only speak from our own experience and perspective. For me to shut down and not want sex, it takes a lot of being put down, ignored, neglected, and treated like part of the furniture. Once a woman has shut down I think bringing it back up takes feeling emotionally safe in the relationship again and that can be hard to re-establish. There is a lot of emotional pain that goes into shutting down.

    I know there are women who just aren't into sex, for whatever reasons. I don't understand that, have no frame of reference to do so. I did hear a report recently that the portion of the brain devoted to sexual response is much larger in males than in females, while in females the communication network is much more developed. I'm no brain specialist but I'd bet as they learn more it turns out that it isn't that women are any less sexual than men but that the process is different. Just as they've learned that memory is stored throughout the body and that the body reacts before the brain gets the signal, they'll find that male and female brains handle sexual signals and responses differently.

    Perhaps some of the trouble women have with sexual turn downs is that we are conditioned to an attitude that at some level we are our bodies. We have been bombarded all our lives with messages that we have to look right, walk right, dress right, be sweet, to be really acceptable. Even if we try to disregard it, it's there at some level. That's one aspect, another is that when you guy types are young you are on it all the time. Didn't it appreciate it nearly enough in youth. A man who could get it up and going 4 or 5 times in a row on his own and a few more with a little ecouragement wasn't difficult to find at one stage of life. Gets us spoiled. Had a conversation with some gfs years ago about what a shock it was when at some point in our teens or early 20s when we realized that males did not have constant erections. Up to that point, if we'd been with a naked guy, he was hard. Honestly some men treat women as if their main value is in sex, getting conditioned that way and then getting turned down is tough - it hits hard because it says you have no value in that relationship.
    Looks like we people can really misunderstand and mess each other up. You men on here have given me a lot to consider and I'll bet that's true for a lot of the women. It isn't often easy to get a really honest conversation about some of this with someone you are connected to. There is too much at stake and it's harder for both sides to keep their perspective.

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    yeah, talking about this stuff with your partner can be tough, especially since there is a lot of feelings, emotions, ego, etc, tied to sex. It's so complicated!!! I've heard of sex therapy. Has anyone tried it?

    Getting turned down sucks no matter who you are. If it doesn't happen all that often and the reasons are legitimate, then nobody feels hurt. But when it is frequent it sort of kills your desire. I think you're right that this is a human problem, and not just male or female. Guys have feelings too , and its not just about our ego. I frequently feel undesirable and wonder if maybe there is something wrong with me.

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