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    something doesn't seem right. She says she's in alot of pain but yet everything was fine when you guys spent a few months apart. Sounds like to me, she's making up excuses to get out of having sex. Not sure why tho. If you guys had such a great sex life and you are doing well, why would she want to not have sex now. Maybe she wants another break? Did you actually bring up the idea of having and open relationship? how did she react? that would be a perfect way to see if she would be willing to do things with others. would answer alot for you.

    I'm sorry hun that all this is happening. You seem like a nice guy. I hope she's not just making up excuses
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    I didn't start thinking she was making up excuses until I read the part about her stopping even hand jobs because her arms hurt. Dare to be blunt, but that just seems kind of silly to me. Yeah, it can get a little tiring, but I've never heard of someone stopping that altogether just from a little arm ache.

    I'm being a little overly critical, which I apologize for... but something's missing. It's not adding up to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    Women are usually just as logical but follow a different path to get there.
    LOL - just like salesmen are all honest, they just follow a different approach to get you to think what they want you to.

    It's mostly not a man or woman issue, its a personality issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    LOL, men always think they are being logical.
    Refusing your partner sex without a valid reason is not what I would call logical.

    I'd call that selfish.

    Sure you could speculate that he's infecting her with some type of bacteria, but bacterial STD's and conditions usually have visual side effects.

    You could speculate a lot of things...however, the fact that after he was gone a while, and she came back and all of the sudden the symptoms and the "hurt" are gone would lead a logical person to believe that the woman is full of it.

    Logical is tossing out all the B.S....and examining the situation without emotion involved.

    Logic would tell one, that this woman is refusing sex for a reason other than what she's mentioned.

    I'd say that's a pretty bad way to solve the problem and pretty illogical.
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    {I'm having a problem getting this to post, keep getting a message about too many images- there aren't any I can see, so I've broken it up because paragraph breaks seem to be considered images}

    You obviously love her or you would have given up and moved on.
    You may not like this part but if you want to really look at possible solutions, then keep your defenses down, stay open and consider.

    You note that the two of you get along fine during the day (with a few disagreements) that you used to have sex frequently, daily and that as she had increasing problems she continued to pleasure you in other ways but she had now stated that she won't. You stated that you have given her, "as much foreplay as she needs", even to the point where you are in physical pain. You also note you're in good shape and good looking.

    What I'm hearing here is all about you. That may not be the case - all we know here is what you write and as humans do in interacting, we put that together with our own experience and make assumptions as to what is going on. That and asking questions is all we can do.

    How often have you acted entirely for her? Without any anticipation of filling any need of your own other than a desire to pleasure her? She's doing that for you and has been over and over for a long time. YOU may feel like you are being patient, that you have been "fine" with Her pleasuring You in other ways. She may not feel that way at all and may be feeling very unheard.
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    Now the men on here may not "get' this but I'll bet a lot of the women will say, "Bingo". We women, if we are sexual and sensual and love and care for a man, enjoy pleasuring him. But and it's a big but, what we get out of a bj or hj, personally isn't much. We are up close, we can feel your skin, are immersed in your scent, loaded with your pheromones, can hear your breathing change and the sounds of your arousal, we can feel the changes in your penis as you get closer to cumming. All that can be very arousing. But it is a gift, our pleasure in this is largely that of giving.
    What do we get? "Thanks, that was amazing". That's ok.
    Occasionally.
    But over and over...
    Well, yippee yahoohy.
    We are happy to have pleasured you, what kind of reciprocation is there? In MOST cases None. Zip. Nada. At anytime. I've talked with a lot of women, this is more common than you may think. That isn't to say none do, but it's often the case. How long do you think that can go on until it becomes a chore? Quite a few have shut down at least for some period of time. And many get so frustrated at not having their needs met that they actually prefer getting a man off without intercourse because they can stay less connected and feel less disappointed. It can get to be kind of like the checklist; laundry, work, pick up kids, start dinner, jerk off man, wash dishes.

    You say the two of you can go out for a nice dinner, have a good time and when you get to the bedroom it ends. Women don't have switches, arousal isn't a checklist; dinner, kiss here, touch there, she dissolves in wild desire. Men often tend to treat it that way.

    When it comes to communicating about sexual matters, especially when a woman is not having her needs met, men can get very prickly and defensive. You guys tend to be better than most women at saying do this, that way, faster, harder, here, there. But when it comes to hearing that what you are doing, isn't doing it; that what you think she needs isn't what she wants, the walls go up, the defenses come out and women tend to back off not wanting to offend the precious male ego. The result isn't happy for anyone.

    We've said it here many times before; start giving her lots of affection and care without any sexual expectations. Kisses and hugs, carresses, a massage, foot rubs - no expectations. It will take time for her to feel/hear that you are caring without demands. And she may start to open back up. I've read various therapists that say men need sex to feel love and women need to feel loved to feel sexual. I don't know that I agree entirely but it's close enough to true to keep in mind.

    What she is probably dealing with a response loop. Most likely she had some sort of irritation or infection that caused pain and dryness, continuing to have sex with this created an expectation of pain with intercourse. Then repeatedly pleasuring you without getting any for herself caused her to start to disassociate from her sexual responses. One thing led to another and each fed the other. Now she's shut down emotionally and sexually. Your frustration is understandable but the drive to "fix" her has very likely contributed to the problem. She needs to resolve any possible physical factors and really should find some other method of conception control. Then you are going to have to find ways she can feel (not what would do it for you but what will work for her) that your desire for her flows from love and connection and not just your hormones. This can be repaired. It will take time. You may want to give this to her to read. See what she thinks after she's had some time to consider it. Don't be surprised if there are some tears. Having our pain put into words can evoke some intense responses. Knowing that you are open and trying to understand in new ways may be a big help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    It can get to be kind of like the checklist; laundry, work, pick up kids, start dinner, jerk off man, wash dishes.[/FONT][/COLOR]
    Oooooh that made me laugh! I love it

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThereYouAre View Post
    LOL - just like salesmen are all honest, they just follow a different approach to get you to think what they want you to.
    Oh yes, this what I find in so much of the much talked about PUA, Mystery and such. I've done sales training till it's coming out my ears; Tom Hopkins boot camp, Zig, Spin Selling, T. Harv, Q-cards, oh my, I don't even remember all of them. It's mostly about creating a sense of need and getting them to think it was their idea. I read stuff or talk with someone and want to exclaim, "Oh yes, Spin Selling, chapter 2". Or, "you must have read, Getting to Yes". LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    It can get to be kind of like the checklist; laundry, work, pick up kids, start dinner, jerk off man, wash dishes.
    A man's laundry list can get just as tedious:

    Get up early, work 10 hour day, eat a lousy dinner (that you may have to make yourself), listen to unappreciative wife, get denied sex, work more, go to bed.

    Like I said...more of a personality issue than it is a gender issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThereYouAre View Post
    A man's laundry list can get just as tedious:

    Get up early, work 10 hour day, eat a lousy dinner (that you may have to make yourself), listen to unappreciative wife, get denied sex, work more, go to bed.

    Like I said...more of a personality issue than it is a gender issue.
    True. Very true.
    But I do think it likely in this case, she's gotten into a negative reinforcement that probably started with some type of infection and real pain and discomfort. Regardless of what the physical situation is now, she will need to be certain that is resolved and then it will take what is essentially retraining her responses and expectations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThereYouAre View Post
    A man's laundry list can get just as tedious:

    Get up early, work 10 hour day, eat a lousy dinner (that you may have to make yourself), listen to unappreciative wife, get denied sex, work more, go to bed.

    Like I said...more of a personality issue than it is a gender issue.
    man OTYA, you sound like a bitter man thats been burned one to many times sometimes.



    Anywho back to the subject. I can honestly related to your women in a sense. It may not hurt to have sex but I've been dealing with this female issue thing for 6 months now which puts my mood at 0. I dont want to be touched, sometimes kissed or even hugged. My man is very loving and understanding which makes things better for me when I snap and say to give me some space for a while (meaning minutes or hrs not days). Still, even tho I get no pleasure what so ever out of BJ's or HJ's (mainly cause I'm not in the mood), I sitll do them for him. I do them to keep him happy. i still take showers with him because he likes me washing his body. I do that stuff because I love him and I do want him to be happy. And I do it all knowing I'm not going to get any physical thrill, just the happiness of knowing I made him happy.

    thats whole my jaw hurts, my arm hurts . Whatever!! I just cant buy it.
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