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    Hello,

    I don't post much, but do read a lot of post. This site has be very helpful for me and my relationship.

    I could have sex everyday and my wife knows that, we have come along way in a year but I'm still frustrated. She says she is trying and I do believe that, but she uses excuses that make no logic what so ever. We still do the same thing because she says she is uncomfortable and she will not try new things because of that. She tries to have sex at least once a week, but because of scheduling and other things, it is usually twice a month. And the only way she will have sex is by the look on my face. And I do that look on purpose...If I don't, she will not even ask for it. I don't think I have a high sex drive, I think that I love to be with her....I love her body, I love her skin, I love being with her and After we are together, I'm at peace with the world. I tell her that it is more about sex, and I do believe that, because a lot of times I just want to touch, kiss, and be close, but she will say, all you want is sex. YES, I have told her that and YES I have explained to her what I'm doing, but she doesn't understand.

    Now, enough about me and my box.

    Question 1: If it is know that contact with your partner helps with stress and releases endorphins, then why is there always a problem with one partner using that as an excuse? I work a very stressful job and so does she, but if we have a chance to de-stress together, doesn't that make sense for other couples too? I have always thought of that as a poor excuse.

    Question 2: I would do anything for her and that's what I seem to do..but she wouldn't do anything for me...I'm talking our whole world, just not in bed. I'm always given in but always answering to her...can u do it for me things. How long do you think, someone should give in as long as there is no abuse. If I'm given in and not receiving, her needs are being met and mine are not....And I know the answers some women are going to give me, but I'm looking for the ones who understand what I'm saying. I think, my situations has been a lot like women, in this situations, because of the level. But again, that is my opinion. If I upset you....Sorry. And yes, I do the laundry, wash dishes, pay bills and send her love notes.

    That is why I love this site: I can type my feelings and release. And no I don't cry...And for the guys that think I'm a whimp ... Over 40 and still can left over 350 lbs. and slam dunk a ball, sorry ladies, just had to say that.

    Again, Thanks for the site, love it and thanks for reading.
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    Hey Greydog, haven't seen you around for awhile. This is a toughie and you are right both genders deal with this. I'd love about 10x's more sex than I get. Sigh. And I give all I can, massages, bj's, baking, positive attitude, oh well going there, goes nowhere...

    A few questions;
    When you do have sex, does she orgasm?
    How long have you been together?
    Was she more responsive in the past?
    Any idea what her parents attitude toward sex was/is?

    I believe that when two people love each other (not just as friends) sexual desire is a natural and normal part of that and when you have committed to someone you should be atuned to each other so that you fullfill your desires and needs together. As you really come to trust and deepen your connection then you are able to open up and share things that you couldn't with a stranger. This is a large part of why people come together and stay together. It sounds like this is what you want.

    Unfortunately we get bombarded with a lot of total nonsense in the media and by the people around us (like our parents growing up), that sets up some really stupid expectations and assumptions. Some of these have been around for generations and some are newer than we think. Just look at how material there is out there in movies, ads, books and conversation - that tells us that men are sexually driven and have "only one thing" on their minds. Or that women are flakey airheads who use sex to lure a man in and then to control him. It's all mostly BS. There are some people who've bought into it and make it their reality, I've seen others try to force a partner into as well by the intrepretations they put on everything, that's part of what I'm dealing with and it sounds like you may be dealing with it too.

    Your wife may have been conditioned from childhood to think this way. I have some Gfs who were and now that we are all hitting our 50s, there's one freind who actually said, "I'm so glad I'm 50, I never have to have sex again"???? I just looked at her baffled. Who knows where that came from. It's her programming - fortunately she's not married.

    Can you get in to see a counselor? Even if she won't go? A good one will ask what you want to achieve and help you develop the tools to get there. You may be doing all that you can think of but it's not connecting with her. You have to do something different. This isn't about what you think she should want, it's about what She needs and somehow she's not getting. What really makes a love connection for one person just may not do it for another. You have to discover what will help her feel loved and cared about. Ideally she should go into couseling too. It doesn't necessarily have to take a long time, most of us, if we understand that changes have to be made and are actively working on that, will have Ah ha, moments. Something is said or happens that "clicks" and we finally get it. A good counselor can help create that and can help you both learn to communicate better. If it turns out that the two of your just won't ever be on the same page with this, they can help you determine what you are going to do then.
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    I like you, you're honest. I like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by greydog72
    If it is know that contact with your partner helps with stress and releases endorphins, then why is there always a problem with one partner using that as an excuse? I work a very stressful job and so does she, but if we have a chance to de-stress together, doesn't that make sense for other couples too? I have always thought of that as a poor excuse.
    I read over this about ten times and still cant work it out You use it as an excuse? She does? You dont agree with other people using it as an excuse? Or just simply, you think that more couples should be intimate if it reduces stress levels?

    Either way - yes, couples should be more intimate with each other, but it shouldnt be based on scientific facts, it should be natural... im sure thats not what you meant...but thats how i read it.

    Quote Originally Posted by greydog72
    How long do you think, someone should give in as long as there is no abuse. If I'm given in and not receiving, her needs are being met and mine are not....
    The thing is... you've always given in... as kind as that is, its now expected. I believe that youre intelligent and i assume that you have tried to ask her to do things for you occassionally - what was her reaction?

    In summary, you do everything for her and you feel that youre not appreciated? It is always interesting to me when the 'typical' sexes are reversed, not that im revelling in your situation. I also dont get the feeling that you are looking for answers - more of a vent?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greydog72 View Post

    Question 1: If it is know that contact with your partner helps with stress and releases endorphins, then why is there always a problem with one partner using that as an excuse? I work a very stressful job and so does she, but if we have a chance to de-stress together, doesn't that make sense for other couples too? I have always thought of that as a poor excuse.
    My thoughts are....when one enjoys doing something, they will tend to do it as often as they can. So it would reason that she obviously doesn't enjoy sex as much as you. There are a variety of reasons...

    -natural (meaning hormonally induced)low sex drive
    -preconceived notions....maybe she was taught her whole life sex is dirty and wrong and bad
    -it doesn't feel good. whether hammering our penises into a woman's feels good for us, I can see how some women wouldn't necessarily like it.
    -she is anorgasmic. when i have sex, i want to get off. what's the point, short of pleasuring your partner, otherwise?
    -she's taking care of it herself

    Those are about the most common things I can think of. Have a talk with her, ask her what it is.

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    Question 2: I would do anything for her and that's what I seem to do..but she wouldn't do anything for me...I'm talking our whole world, just not in bed. I'm always given in but always answering to her...can u do it for me things. How long do you think, someone should give in as long as there is no abuse. If I'm given in and not receiving, her needs are being met and mine are not....And I know the answers some women are going to give me, but I'm looking for the ones who understand what I'm saying. I think, my situations has been a lot like women, in this situations, because of the level. But again, that is my opinion. If I upset you....Sorry. And yes, I do the laundry, wash dishes, pay bills and send her love notes.
    I think this has more to do with her personality. Has your relationship taken a turn for the worse? When one partner loses interest or hope, they can become very cold and selfish. If your needs aren't being met, again, you are going to have to sort out her reasons for her behavior. If she's willing to work on it, you are in luck. If not, there are other women who would salivate at a man who wants to please them in bed and then do their laundry afterwards.

    Best of luck to both of you.
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    unfortunately many women are brought up to think of sex as dirty and it is very difficult to get past 20+ years of upbringing.
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    Thanks for the response, there all great. Nice shock.

    First, I know I'm venting....sometimes you just have too.

    Second, I know we have emotional issues, but I think we are at different levels of our relationship. We have been married for almost 20 yrs. and after we make love or if I look frustrated, she says thinks like, "at least it's better and more then you use to get". In the past, we where having kids, I never pushed it as much because she used it for an excuse and she has even admitted to that. I have finally, for about the last 1 1/2 yrs., got my bed back. But know she will sleep with one of our kids and say she fell asleep. I don't push that because she makes a big issue. Just trying to pick my battles, if you know what I mean...And yes, I think it is an issue.

    As far as counseling, believe me I've tried. In fact, even tho I'm not a counselor, What I do is similar. I have to do tons of research on disorders of all kinds and when I suggest it, she will say things like, "do I look like one of your patients". I guess that's why I love this site. It helps.
    She does have some issues from past: not rapped, but touched by friends dads and a old bf that just saying his name will make her twitch. But she will not talk to me about it. I have tried. It's like she enjoys feeling bad about it...like she wants to feel that way and the only thing that is trying to change that is me.

    I personally, don't understand why people us stress for lack of intimacy. If I'm stressed, cuddling, kissing, and even making love would be a good way to end a bad day. Even if my Johnson was to tired to work...her touching and kissing me would be wonderful and falling asleep in each others arms would reduce stress. That's why I don't understand, why people use it for an excuse...hope that is more clear.

    We are doing better, but I feel like she is comfortable with the growth we have achieved. I tell myself almost everyday that there is more I can learn, from others and myself. That my growth will not stop until the day after I die...and then, it's a new beginning...(but a different subject and post). I don't think it's a scientific chemical or research problem.

    As far as conditioning, we have all been condition from birth. If you knew anything about my background and history, I should have died in the city streets with some old gang bangers...people are surprised to hear about my background. I have people of the same heritage that say, you don't act like the rest of them... And believe me, I love my heritage and who I've become....again, job. I look past, and believe me, I have to, see more then the surface. I've been doing it for over 16 yrs. and love my job, because it has helped me grow too.

    We as humans have a gift. We can change. We can move. We can decide. We not only are motivated by instinct but by emotion. If you put your hand on a fire you move it..instinct. But if a loved one beats you to a pulp, we stay...emotion (Sorry, that may not be a good example)

    I love my wife...I have never cheated and never will. I believe she has never cheated either, but sometimes I wish she would so I can move on...sad, I know. And I will always love her...she has given me something more value then my life...the life of our kids. I believe that we have soul mates, but I also think they are made. We become soul mates by give and take. Do I believe she is the only women for me...I think it's up to her. Do I believe I'm the only man for her...I am trying to make it so.

    Again, thanks for the venting blog. It helps...try it.
    God Bless..

    PS. welcome all response still...thanks
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    Sounds like she does have some issue and this is of long standing. I'd venture a guess she doesn't like and never has liked sex.

    You know the old saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results? Try something different? Are you in or near a good sized city? If so there should be an organization of Tantrists, contact them and see what they have to offer? That tradition of sex therapy goes way back. If you can't find any PM me with your general location and I'll see if I can some some in your area through the grape vine. A different perspective never hurts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    Sounds like she does have some issue and this is of long standing. I'd venture a guess she doesn't like and never has liked sex.

    You know the old saying that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results? Try something different? Are you in or near a good sized city? If so there should be an organization of Tantrists, contact them and see what they have to offer? That tradition of sex therapy goes way back. If you can't find any PM me with your general location and I'll see if I can some some in your area through the grape vine. A different perspective never hurts.
    Thank you, I'm trying different things...Have even ordered a toy for us to try. She didn't get mad, but she wasn't want to try it. I can't even get her to try a different lubricant.

    Love that insanity saying....

    The biggest hurdle we will ever have to jump, is ourselves.

    You know those times where you just want to rip of your lovers clothes and ravish them....well, I can't have them.

    Call me hard headed....I'm still trying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greydog72 View Post
    Thank you, I'm trying different things...Have even ordered a toy for us to try.
    Not sure that's the best way to approach this. The issue seems to be more mental than physical.

    In this scenario, I think you may be opening up a can of worms that you'll regret.
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    GreyDog, you sound like a really good guy! I hope things get better for you two. I have the same problem(giving but not recieving)... it's rought. It's good to hear that you love your wife so much. It sounds like you have been strong, and I truely hope that things will work out one way or another for you... you deserve to be happy!
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