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    Quote Originally Posted by oxy-moron View Post
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    The extra jobs around the house thing doesnt stack up with me- I had been doing a lot of stuff around the house since we started out. Many many years of housework and still got the ice maiden.
    Instead of doing more jobs try more safe physical contact- stokes -massages - casual cuddles. Make sure they dont lead to sex or look like they are leading to sex.
    When she vamps up- Make the sex less goal oriented.
    Make it slow and with lots of physical contact. See how you feel about her after that. All of this will be manipulating yours and her mammalian circuitry.
    You will become more amorous towards her and she will change her behaviour to you.
    If you are doing it right the communication levels will be boosted naturally because you will be more interested in each other. You will start making better eye contact with her. I know you would think this would not work- but it does. But it does take time.

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    I can now vouch for Oxy's ideas. I have gone for a more "direct" route of talking to her more, stopping and just listening to her more, more eye contact, daring to do more massages (which as yet havent been shrugged off) and in fact end up with quite passionate embraces. We feel closer than ever and gone from sex once or twice every 6-8 weeks to whenever possible (6 times in 1 week at 1 point) and have even gone back to a situation we had when we 1st met, ie she arouses me even though she is on her period, even though we cant have full sex and last night she gave me a fantastic BJ - out of this world!!
    So, be tactile, listen to her more, eye contact and bingo, back to a great relationship!!

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    Best advice I can give you - print out and read How to Please a Woman by Pam Babbitt. Stop hounding her for sex, start putting your heart into the love part and the "making love" will come back. My wife wanted a divorce a month ago and now we are getting along better, but still she thinks I'm after sex when in fact I'm after a great love making session. Help more around the house, make the bed, help her out. It helps her have time to herself and helps relax her. Don't even mention anything about sex at all. Let her know sex isn't what you want, you want your wife back. When you go to bed, don't mention sex at all, women hate being hounded about it and resent you for keeping it up. Kiss her goodnight and go to sleep. Before long, she will see that you are helping her out and not begging her for sex. THAT my friend will open her eyes. Keep up all the things you do for her and don't mention sex at all. Before long she will come to you for it. Tell her you don't want to unless she really wants you and stick to that. Kiss her like she wants to be kissed and hold her like she wants to be held without any expectations. It might take some effort to work on all of this, but it will all be worth it. Do something that she will appreciate, watch the kids while she goes to get her hair and nails done. Send her to a spa with a gift card, anything to let her know you care about her comfort and appreciate all she does for the family. I'd bet things turn around in a hurry. Most importantly, READ THAT BOOK!!! It's only 51 pages and I read it in 2 nights. I continue to read it.
    My wife and I got down to sex 1-2 times a year. 10 days or a month is nothing, just let her dictate when and how. Let her know you genuinely care by doing something that she normally hates to do and always does because no one else will. I'll do dishes, vacuum, clean the toilets and go grocery shopping, no problem. Because I know it means a lot to her and it puts her at ease and women at ease are happy. And Happy = Horny!!! Us guys just haven't figured this out yet. Make her happy and she will make you happy. Just don't mention it again and help her to be happy. In the end... you will only make yourself happy. Just don't do it to make her horny, it will backfire on you. Do it to make her genuinely happy and see how she responds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkT View Post
    Best advice I can give you - print out and read How to Please a Woman by Pam Babbitt. Stop hounding her for sex, start putting your heart into the love part and the "making love" will come back. My wife wanted a divorce a month ago and now we are getting along better, but still she thinks I'm after sex when in fact I'm after a great love making session. Help more around the house, make the bed, help her out. It helps her have time to herself and helps relax her. Don't even mention anything about sex at all. Let her know sex isn't what you want, you want your wife back. When you go to bed, don't mention sex at all, women hate being hounded about it and resent you for keeping it up. Kiss her goodnight and go to sleep. Before long, she will see that you are helping her out and not begging her for sex. THAT my friend will open her eyes. Keep up all the things you do for her and don't mention sex at all. Before long she will come to you for it. Tell her you don't want to unless she really wants you and stick to that. Kiss her like she wants to be kissed and hold her like she wants to be held without any expectations. It might take some effort to work on all of this, but it will all be worth it. Do something that she will appreciate, watch the kids while she goes to get her hair and nails done. Send her to a spa with a gift card, anything to let her know you care about her comfort and appreciate all she does for the family. I'd bet things turn around in a hurry. Most importantly, READ THAT BOOK!!! It's only 51 pages and I read it in 2 nights. I continue to read it.
    My wife and I got down to sex 1-2 times a year. 10 days or a month is nothing, just let her dictate when and how. Let her know you genuinely care by doing something that she normally hates to do and always does because no one else will. I'll do dishes, vacuum, clean the toilets and go grocery shopping, no problem. Because I know it means a lot to her and it puts her at ease and women at ease are happy. And Happy = Horny!!! Us guys just haven't figured this out yet. Make her happy and she will make you happy. Just don't mention it again and help her to be happy. In the end... you will only make yourself happy. Just don't do it to make her horny, it will backfire on you. Do it to make her genuinely happy and see how she responds.
    This doesn't always work, I've been there for YEARS and it didn't work, she just took being treated like a queen as her due. This mas work if you have been neglecting your lady, so it's worth a try. I must say it's very subservient behavior, I don't know a lot of men or women who would do this long term. Cancelling helped us to set some fair and reasonable expectations on both sides, it's a team effort. If she's not happy and you wont change, or if you're not happy and she wont change, then pull the big yellow handles and eject now. Next time you might find a better match. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    This doesn't always work, I've been there for YEARS and it didn't work, she just took being treated like a queen as her due. This mas work if you have been neglecting your lady, so it's worth a try. I must say it's very subservient behavior, I don't know a lot of men or women who would do this long term. Cancelling helped us to set some fair and reasonable expectations on both sides, it's a team effort. If she's not happy and you wont change, or if you're not happy and she wont change, then pull the big yellow handles and eject now. Next time you might find a better match. Good luck.
    Yeah I totally agree with your comment and I hope he is successful.

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    I feel what will we do must fit and be happy for the result can be a maximum.

    I very sorry any 2 replay....
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    Quote Originally Posted by croalstad View Post
    I can't help but respond to the two questions #1 Do you love me and #2 are you in love with me, aren't they the same except when you are not getting sex? I live with a man who wants sex all the time and I could care less, I know how hard this can be on a relationship. I wish I could give you a straight answer because I would like to know what happened to me. I never hated sex I just grew out of it as I grew older and now i wanted a deeper love and not so physical.
    Crossroad Croalstad, that's what I see.

    If you question do you love me? And you couple that with he wants sex all the time and you don't it's because sex is sex, intimacy, giving, hugging, kissing, I love you words spoken for no reason what so ever , and leaving your parts alone equal love and in that you WANT sex...But just sex? You are a body are you not? Why even if you were previously very sexual, sensual want that? To feel like that?

    Here you not wanting it? You are not wrong, he is..... for how he expects cave man tantics.

    What you want is real, it's love not being a cave woman you'd gladly be a cave woman a tart in the bedroom a lady outside if you knew that it was you he wanted not just a body.

    Sad, see it all the time and been there fortunatey I have what I just described now....only occassionaly he allows his smaller head to dictake his want and not mine but meow he has to make up for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    This doesn't always work, I've been there for YEARS and it didn't work, she just took being treated like a queen as her due. This mas work if you have been neglecting your lady, so it's worth a try. I must say it's very subservient behavior, I don't know a lot of men or women who would do this long term. Cancelling helped us to set some fair and reasonable expectations on both sides, it's a team effort. If she's not happy and you wont change, or if you're not happy and she wont change, then pull the big yellow handles and eject now. Next time you might find a better match. Good luck.
    Of course there is no, one thing fits all relationships, solution but I would point out that your word choice reflects your attitude and in this case that is very likely a part of the problem. If you are thinking or feeling, " treated like a queen ",very subservient behavior", that will be reflected in how you interact with her no matter how much you feel that you are hiding it.

    You are right though that if some one is not happy, it isn't always just the dynamics of the relationship, there may be other things coming into play. However, we have had several men here who have turned things around, like Tod, by following essentially what Oxy has suggested. There is always, his side, her side and what is really going on, its never just "you". You can't make someone else change, but you can change how you interact, respond and treat them and yourself, and that will change the dynamics of the relationship, sometimes enough to shift it in a positive direction.
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    How about asking one of her friends, that you are comfortable talking with and trust, to talk to her about it? Maybe her friend could give her some ideas, maybe bring up some points to her that if said by you she wouldn't give a thought about it. Maybe she needs to be reminded of some things and needs some encouragement, maybe it will get her thinking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lots1056 View Post
    How about asking one of her friends, that you are comfortable talking with and trust, to talk to her about it? Maybe her friend could give her some ideas, maybe bring up some points to her that if said by you she wouldn't give a thought about it. Maybe she needs to be reminded of some things and needs some encouragement, maybe it will get her thinking!
    I'm not so sure my visit to the doghouse would be worth it.

    Going to one of your wife's friends and asking them to be mediator in your sex life would more than likely really tick my wife off.

    It's one thing for my wife to know she has no sex drive, a totally different level if one of her friends knows and she wasn't the one who did the telling.

    Nice idea in theory,
    There will always be boundries, but making love is so different, than having sex, let's face it. CW

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    Of course there is no, one thing fits all relationships, solution but I would point out that your word choice reflects your attitude and in this case that is very likely a part of the problem. If you are thinking or feeling, " treated like a queen ",very subservient behavior", that will be reflected in how you interact with her no matter how much you feel that you are hiding it.
    There is certainly some residual anger still there, but it was probably just poor word choices. It is true that my wife became complacent and took our relationship for granted. We have since turned it around nicely with the help of months of counseling as discussed earlier in this thread. My point is that it is a joint effort and it mustn't be one person's role to placate the other. Marriage is a meeting of equals and it does take work, I see many relationships where one or both will talk to the other in ways that they would never talk to a stranger. One must examine ones behavior and try to correct faults, but equally it is very rare that it's all one party's fault, both must work to have a happy, healthy relationship. This was not working in mine as my wife was perfectly happy, I still treated her as I had while we were going out, and I grew increasingly unhappy with the lack of sex/affection, hence the counseling. I probably left it too long, as men do, until I was very angry and it was either leave or get into therapy. Thankfully it has worked and we are very happy.

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