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    Unhappy When to call it quits? (long post)

    Hey everybody, I'm a new poster here at WH. I've read around on the site anonymously before but decided to finally join as I'm really needing some of the great advice I see you all give each other.

    I'm a 24 year old female with a 26 year old boyfriend. We actually played video games together online and became friends that way, then eventually, feelings developed. I am from Chicago and he is from Florida. We visited back and forth over a year's time and then I decided to move to be with him regularly. We've been together over a year and a half and have been living together for 9 months now. Our relationship, in general, is amazing. We get along great. We're perfect for each other as we enjoy almost all the same things and have fun no matter what were doing. We rarely ever disagree about anything and never, ever fight. I'm the first girl he's been able to commit to for longer than a month or two and after a string of long term relationships on my end, I totally feel like he's "the one". We want all the same things out of life! Buuut right now our sex life basically just feels like a rollercoaster ride.

    First of all, I have a high sex drive. Ideally I would like sex around 3 times a day, everyday. When we initially shared our sexual desires, it was pretty clear that he was really into sex too. Although he had never really had stable sexual partners, with not being able to commit to any girl longer than a few months, he really enjoyed sex, and masturbation. We actually talked at length about the masturbation and I found out he was really into porn as well. As I later found out, maybe a bit excessively (he had a few GBs of porn on his computer and was downloading a lot of it regularly!). While we were dating and couldn't have sex due to the distance, he would masturbate about 4 times per day on average. I had no problem with this because I thought that would mean we'd be having tons of sex when we finally lived together. When I first moved in, we did have tons of sex. Upwards of 5-6 times per day, 7 days a week. It was fantastic! Then I settled in and got a job and he went back to working more hours. Then over the holidays I worked more hours and he got a 2nd job. Slowly over 9 months it went from 5-6 times a day, to maybe 3-4 times a day, to twice a day.. Now 9 months later we're having sex, once a day.. if that. We may actually only have sex 5 times a week now unless I really go out of my way to initiate. When we worked full time and had other stuff to deal with, I understood that we were tired, cranky, busy, stressed, etc... But now I'm very part time and he's working 20-25 hours a week. With hardly anything else going on. And we've talked about this a handful of times. I've asked what his ideal sex life would be like and he says 2 times per day, maybe 3, which is exactly what I want. BUT, he says that, then we may go all day without sex.

    Also when I first lived with him and we were having a lot of sex, he wasn't really masturbating anymore, as he didn't need to. But on occasion that I'd go to sleep early, sometimes I'd wake up and catch him looking at porn and masturbating to it. Now, I really understand that men like to look at porn, that's whatever. And I've watched porn with him, I'm completely open to that. We've watched it together, masturbated together, watched it during sex.. I don't have a problem with that. BUT I did tell him that I was bothered by the fact that he felt the need to masturbate when I was perfectly happy to have sex with him at any point, regardless if I was sleeping. So, he stopped masturbating to the porn. He'd still look at it occasionally but he saved the orgasm for when we were together. That was around the beginning of living together. Now, about 2 weeks ago, I found out he's been looking at porn and masturbating again. I know he looks at it every time I'm at work, how often he actually gets off to it, I have no clue. And hey, if he gets horny while I'm away for 8 hours working and he gets off, I'm okay with that. But when he's only getting horny like once a day now and he's masturbating without me, I feel like I'm getting screwed! He'll masturbate then not have any sexual urges after that. I'm perfectly fine with his masturbating as long as its not getting in the way of OUR sex life.

    This whole thing REALLY upsets me, to the point where I will cry myself to sleep and/or not be able to sleep at night. I know that sounds excessive and part of it is my self-esteem being crushed. I am insecure and I can admit that. I NEED to feel like my partner finds me sexually attractive or it really hurts my self-esteem. And not only that but sex for me is a way to feel close to him. It's about love and acceptance between us. It also makes me feel validated. When he chooses not to have sex with me, I just feel like I'm not doing my job as a good girlfriend or that he's bored of me or he doesn't find me attractive anymore.

    I really don't believe he's cheating. He never has cheated before and he doesn't really have the time to cheat. He'll attribute the lack of sex to stress or not feeling well or just being tired.. which, hey, it happens sometimes. But overall, I feel like our sex life is going to dwindle down to nothing eventually. And we've talked about it! About my needs and his needs and what we can do to change things. And things always end up the same way. I know men (and women) who enjoy sex on a daily basis and I just wonder why I can't have that. I've asked him if he's bored and he says no. I'm not a prude at all, I never tell him no about things he wants to try. I'm always up for initiating and trying new things too. I haven't gained weight or anything either. We've actually been working out together and I'm getting in better shape if anything. Outside sex, our relationship remains strong and we're happy. I just cannot think of a reason that 2 healthy young adults can't maintain sex once a day. And especially when he used to masturbate so frequently. And I've told him that if he's just not into me anymore, then we shouldn't stay together.

    I'm just at my wits end! Where do I go from here?
    (so sorry about the loooong post, this has just been an issue for months now and required backstory)

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    It's simple. When things become unbalanced in a relationship or there are compatibility issues, and talking/compromise doesn't work, it's time to move on. Easier said than done, I know. You will always try to come up with reasons why you "need" to stay, try to justify and defend his actions in your mind, remind yourself of all the good things about him thinking that will override the bad, cling onto the hope that it will get better. But bottom line, it's hurting you, he's not willing to work on it, and you will not be happy if you stay. Take care of yourself, you deserve to be happy and be with someone you are compatible with in every way.
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    You cannot have mis-trust in a relationship, or lies.

    People change when we get accustomed to each other, three times a day becomes once and then less frequent, everything takes work to remain the same so both parties are happy not one, both....

    Talking should resolve it, but that hasn't worked as a consistency.

    I could suggest setting your clock a little earlier each day and initate morning sex ...(7 times a week) but then you would have to be spontanious on the other occasions so it isn't mundane.....but wouldn't that then satisfy you, as you would maybe get it 10 times a week?

    He had a habit, probably a long one, for a long time, and as you allow that habit into your bedroom together, it's still there in his brainwave, it still exists and therefore, when you are not there, he still goes back to the old pattern...

    You can't forget a bad habit, when it's still in progress......

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    The time to call it quits is the time when a problem which keeps you from sleeping for a long time comes up, you discuss it, he either ignores it or gives you empty promises, the problem remains and slowly spreads into your relationship, your self-esteem and your every-day life.

    It's one thing to cut down masturbation for sex and another to cut down on sex and increase masturbation without admitting it's a problem. It's his old habit, he's had it all his life and only decreased it because you moved in. Now he feels more "at home" again so he can return to it.

    He should stop masturbating daily, it's bad for your sex life. If he can't accept this for his own sake then, yes, it's time to move on. A mature man knows this and quits this by himself when it becomes an issue. You shouldn't even have to tell him so, he should know. He's either immature or doesn't care about your pleasure. Either way, he doesn't sound like "the one" to me.

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    The vast majority of couples slow down sexually after the newness wears off. This doesn't have to happen bit It think it does more often than not. You have several things to consider, him getting off to porn instead of sharing the experience with you is one, you using sex as a crutch for your insecurity is another. People have sex for many reasons, some do it simply because they are bored or out of habit, that's OK but if it masks a problem that needs to be addressed, it's not the best thing.

    We need balance in our lives. I love dark chocolate and joke that I live on it but I know that would be a disaster. Exercise is important for a healthy body and mind but over exercising can damage your health. Sex is a wonderful part of a relationship and should be enhance the connection and level of intimacy but if it becomes a rote or a demand rather than a sharing, it can become a negative to one of the partners.

    How about looking into other ways of enhancing intimacy? Check your area for any tantra groups offering things like a heart puja or check out cuddle parties (make sure they are run by someone certified). These may help you expand the way that you can feel connected and secure. The porn bit is really up to him. I'm increasingly disliking the stuff not only because of the addiction factor but it creates VERY unrealistic expectations for female response and how men and women should interact.
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    pandabear, has he ever had any performance issues during sex?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jns View Post
    pandabear, has he ever had any performance issues during sex?
    Well apparently before we dated, he had some issues with a couple of his ex-gfs where he couldn't cum from penetration. It was something that really freaked him out. Fortunately, we never had that problem. The first time we had sex, he was able to cum and hasn't had a problem with that as long as we've been together.

    Other than that, he really stresses out about sex sometimes. If we're having sex and he's tired or preoccupied, he may have a difficult time staying hard. At first it would really bother me, as I took it personally. But we talked through it and I learned that it wasn't anything to do with me. Now if I notice he's having a problem, we stop, I ask him about it and we can usually refocus him and move on without a problem.

    Honestly, the sex has gotten increasingly better as we've gotten to know each other's bodies better and explored further. He has the sex anxiety very rarely now and we're both more comfortable than ever. I know that in his head, he worries a lot about his performance. He worries about if I'm going to orgasm from sex and usually focuses on my orgasms before his own. I think his worrying sometimes gets in the way of just going with the flow and causes problems that wouldn't normally be there.

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    With all those insecurities, masturbating probably feels safer for him than sex with anyone, unfortunately including you in that group. Unfortunately he cannot just let go and have sex with abandon.

    Is intercourse the best way for you to enjoy sex? Do you enjoy him giving you oral or him masturbating you? Maybe adding additional elements in the sex will give you what you need while taking the performance requirements away for him and instead redirecting them.
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    I think that the thing that is diminishing his interest in you is the Coolidge effect- google it.
    It is what stops mammals mating continuously with each other.
    After an orgasm with you he will loose interest in you for days-from a sexual perspective.
    Try an experiment - ask him to not orgasm with you for a week but to keep having sex with you. It sounds strange I know but google Karezza as well.

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