Low Sitting Urethra/Painful Intercourse?

**erinnnnx13** · 05-29-2011 09:16 PM

I've been experiencing pain during intercourse for years, ever since I first tried. I've also had very frequent UTIs. The pain I feel happens when the penis enters and is pulled out, which is of course the motions of sex. I feel it in my urethra and it is the same pain I experience while I have a UTI. A couple of months ago my old gynecologist recommended me to the Women's Therapy Center which helps women deal with Vaginismus - a disorder where women experience pain during intercourse due to a number of reasons. My old gynecologists and my doctors at WTC never gave me a solution to fix the pain in my urethra, they just told me it was "all in my head." Needless to say I wasted $2,000 and 3 months of my time at this place that didn't fix my problem at all. Recently I went to a new gynecologist who said that my urethra is closer to my vaginal opening than most women. Normally there is a fatty layer of tissue "cushioning" the urethra so that it is not irritated during intercourse. My layer of tissue is either very thin or non-existant. This, in turn, causes the penis to rub up against my urethral opening causing the pain. I've been prescribed Lidocaine Hydrochloride Jelly to numb the area during intercourse. I was wondering if any other women have experienced this and what you did to ease the pain or get rid of it completely. Was there surgery involved? I'm nervous that the jelly won't help at all and I'll have to do something more drastic to help with the pain.

**jns** · 05-29-2011 10:08 PM

What you are talking about is the urethral sponge. If you wiki [urethral sponge] you will get a description. I could see if the sponge is thin or is all on the side toward the clitoris due to the urethra being closer to the vagina, you could have complications with sex. If your SO doesn't go all the way in do you still have the pain? Do different positions help, say ones from the back side? Can you get relief by being on top? Would a female condom work as it should keep the urethral flesh more in one place and not being pulled? Does extra lubrication help?

**oxy-moron** · 05-30-2011 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by jns

What you are talking about is the urethral sponge. If you wiki [urethral sponge] you will get a description. I could see if the sponge is thin or is all on the side toward the clitoris due to the urethra being closer to the vagina, you could have complications with sex. If your SO doesn't go all the way in do you still have the pain? Do different positions help, say ones from the back side? Can you get relief by being on top? Would a female condom work as it should keep the urethral flesh more in one place and not being pulled? Does extra lubrication help?

Positions could help like JNS says.
Google Earth clinic Apple cider Vinegar. ( naturally brewed) You have this every day with water to stop the bladder infections. Possibly you have some residual inflammation from previous infections which would make things worse.
Try taking a few l-arginine tablets a few hours before sex - this will help whatever spounge you have to inflate.(Search L-arginine and follow instructions on dosage on the bottle)
Make sure you are taking daily fish oil-or flax oil and some evening primrose Oil as dietary supplements.
Get your man to lightly rub the ridge along the urethra very lightly along with your clit to get the whole area swollen before sex starts.

**WildChild** · 05-30-2011 09:40 AM

Strengthening the pubococcygeus and abdominal muscles may help. Kegel exercises will strengthen the muscles that hold the bladder, uterus and rectum in place. To start you can locate these muscles by stopping the flow of urine. But don't do this frequently as it can back up the urine and promote a bladder infection. Just do it to locate the muscles.

You can start with unassisted kegels, just squeeze those muscles, hold and release. Do this at least 100 times a day. After a month or so you should start exercising using a resistance device. I've researched this and believe that the Kegelmaster is the most effective. (In fact I've been so impressed with it that I became a dealer). It allows you gradually increase the level of resistance to effectively strengthen the muscles. It is a medically licensed product for treating female urinary incontinence but as is the case with all exercise, the benefits cover many areas and many women in studies had greatly reduced UTIs and since these are the same muscles whose contractions herald orgasm, one of the "side effects" is to increase your sexual responsiveness.

This is something that won't hurt you and just may make a big difference.

**erinnnnx13** · 05-30-2011 01:24 PM

Originally Posted by jns

What you are talking about is the urethral sponge. If you wiki [urethral sponge] you will get a description. I could see if the sponge is thin or is all on the side toward the clitoris due to the urethra being closer to the vagina, you could have complications with sex. If your SO doesn't go all the way in do you still have the pain? Do different positions help, say ones from the back side? Can you get relief by being on top? Would a female condom work as it should keep the urethral flesh more in one place and not being pulled? Does extra lubrication help?

The pain starts as soon as my boyfriend pushes in and reaches my urethra. We've tried many different positions but I still have the pain no matter what and being on top makes no difference. There have been only a couple of times where we could have sex without it hurting at all or with minimal pain. These are very rare and I don't know what causes it. We don't do anything different, it's just a lucky day I guess. I haven't tried the female condom yet but we do use a lot of lubrication...so much that it's literally dripping out of me. Nothing seems to help with the pain but I have yet to try the Lidocaine.

**erinnnnx13** · 05-30-2011 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by oxy-moron

Positions could help like JNS says.
Google Earth clinic Apple cider Vinegar. ( naturally brewed) You have this every day with water to stop the bladder infections. Possibly you have some residual inflammation from previous infections which would make things worse.
Try taking a few l-arginine tablets a few hours before sex - this will help whatever spounge you have to inflate.(Search L-arginine and follow instructions on dosage on the bottle)
Make sure you are taking daily fish oil-or flax oil and some evening primrose Oil as dietary supplements.
Get your man to lightly rub the ridge along the urethra very lightly along with your clit to get the whole area swollen before sex starts.

Thanks for the advice! I'll have to try this. I'm sure I still have some inflammation because I get the UTI's so frequently.

**erinnnnx13** · 05-30-2011 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by WildChild

Strengthening the pubococcygeus and abdominal muscles may help. Kegel exercises will strengthen the muscles that hold the bladder, uterus and rectum in place. To start you can locate these muscles by stopping the flow of urine. But don't do this frequently as it can back up the urine and promote a bladder infection. Just do it to locate the muscles.

You can start with unassisted kegels, just squeeze those muscles, hold and release. Do this at least 100 times a day. After a month or so you should start exercising using a resistance device. I've researched this and believe that the Kegelmaster is the most effective. (In fact I've been so impressed with it that I became a dealer). It allows you gradually increase the level of resistance to effectively strengthen the muscles. It is a medically licensed product for treating female urinary incontinence but as is the case with all exercise, the benefits cover many areas and many women in studies had greatly reduced UTIs and since these are the same muscles whose contractions herald orgasm, one of the "side effects" is to increase your sexual responsiveness.

This is something that won't hurt you and just may make a big difference.

Will the exercises make my urethra sit higher or something? If it's a thin layer of tissue making my urethra kind of like curve downward I don't get how these exercises will bring it higher so that it doesn't rub up against the penis during intercourse.

**WildChild** · 05-30-2011 01:38 PM

Having strong ab and pc muscles may help get everything more in place. I don't know your particular situation, but having good strong muscles certainly won't hurt anything and just may help, if not that situation, your general health.
Are you at all overweight?
Excess body fat can push things out of place too.

If it won't hurt and might help, why not?

**erinnnnx13** · 06-01-2011 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by WildChild

Having strong ab and pc muscles may help get everything more in place. I don't know your particular situation, but having good strong muscles certainly won't hurt anything and just may help, if not that situation, your general health.
Are you at all overweight?
Excess body fat can push things out of place too.

If it won't hurt and might help, why not?

Ok thanks! I'll start doing them asap!

I'd still like to know if anyone else has experienced a low sitting urethra and what they did to ease the pain during intercourse.

**rahshills** · 08-09-2011 12:37 AM

I have the same problem. I am actually going to the doctor tomorrow to see what is up, not quite sure if the low sitting urethra is the issue for me or not.