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    Default Boyfriend is a Passive Aggressive Sex Addict who Prefers Masturbation to Sex with Me

    At this time I am making arrangements to move out. I can't take anymore. We have been together off and on for 21 years (consistently for almost 7 years). Almost a year ago he confessed to me (after going to great lengths to get the truth myself, knowing there was something going on) that he paid $300 to have sex with a 17 year old, we are both 40. Before this I confronted him numerous times about watching and masturbating to porn and that I had a real issue with it. He was looking at underage girls. After installing "accountability" software on MY computer it stopped. But not really. He just found other venues to view it. January he got a PS3. I saw he was viewing it on there, only thing that happened was he learned to erase the history. I saw bank records recently that he pays $40.00 a month for a porn site and find dried cum on our hand towels constantly. I have confronted him but he denies it! Lies to my face!

    The two biggest things that bother me the most is that we hardly ever have sex (although I am always ready to go) and that he masturbates in bed next me when he thinks I am sleeping (or doesn't care). This he denies as well, like I am crazy or something. Then gets mad at me when I get up and go sleep on the couch. When we do have sex there is no kissing, no foreplay, no intimacy whatsoever. He also prefers to initiate sex after I have been sleeping and gets off only when I act like I am still asleep! Years ago I used to initiate sex but I was turned down every time, that hurt immensely so I stopped. Now I realize it's because I do not turn him on (just to clarify, I am 5'4", 110 pounds and look 10 years younger than I am) it's because HE only turns HIMSELF on. Before we have sex he goes to the bathroom and gets himself hard then comes back and wants to jam it in before he loses his erection. So sex has become very unsatisfying for me and makes me resent him. I also catch him touching himself throughout the day, he doesn't even seem to know he does it! Sometimes he will catch himself and in mid reach retract. I notice all this, not sure why he thinks I'm a complete idiot. I have already set the boundary of no porn while we are together and he has crossed that, I have asked for more consistent, intimate sex and have not got it. I have asked him to get himself for his addictions and behaviors and he has not. So, I can not control him, his addictions or behaviors but I can control my happiness and life and taking it back into my own hands. I am moving out, I have not mentioned it to him yet, I fear he will try to say he will change, he will get help and then won't. If, after I leave, he gets help, then good, he needs it, whether we get back together if this happens is hard to say. I feel for every woman out there who is in my shoes. I don't blame him for his addictions, habits (I know they stem from his controlling, alcoholic mother while growing up) but I do hold him responsible for not getting help with them when there is help out there. I do blame him for thinking our relationship is not worth the hard work (and possible humiliation). I have researched this to death since finding out and spent a great deal of time figuring out what I can do to make this better with no reciprocation from him. I AM DONE.

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    There has been a great deal of conversation about this kind of behavior here. I've been in the middle of much of it since I was deeply in love with a man who went down this path. Fear of intimacy, a need to control and an addiction to self pleasuring do not make a good partner. Of course the term "self pleasure" is something of a misnomer since they don't really seem to get pleasure out of it so much as release.

    The paying a teen ager that he is old enough to have fathered is worrisome on several levels. Have you been tested for disease?

    It sounds like his behavior has become something of an obsession for you? Its best that you are walking away. Understand that you will need time to heal. If you check out "Your Brain on Porn" you will see that it is a serious addiction with some pretty intense withdrawal symptoms. What you need to look at is why you put up with this for so long and apparently left before and came back for more?

    You can't "fix" him, that is up to him, but you can heal yourself. Be loving and good to yourself. Expand your horizons, learn something about tantric practices and other very connected sexual activity.
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    This has been discussed many times on the site.
    Porn has an insidious impact on the brain. It makes it impossible to deal with real people sexually.
    His 17 year old would have provided novelty which temporarily overcome the effects- but even this would have been a one off.
    It would take him at least 6 months of cold turkey to overcomes the full negative impact of excessive porn use.

    Ultimately your problem with him will be down to his intimacy issues and it is hard to see a fix that kind of problem because the roots of it go back to childhood.
    IMHO You are better off starting again.
    If you want to give the relationship another try then the "Your Brain on Porn" WC suggests is a good starting point along with its sister site "reuniting"
    Get him to read the effects- If he can appreciate the negative impact it is having on him he will be half way there.

    Good luck

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    Default Confronted Boyfriend, Denied Everything

    After sleeping on the couch for a week he finally decided to ask why (although I know he knew why). I told him and he denied it, as usual. We've had this discussion before, last time when he denied it I said to him "So you're saying I am crazy, I am seeing, hearing and feeling things?" His response? "No, I'm not saying that." What??? So which is it? Either I am crazy and he's not jerking off in bed next to me or he is. So again, he is claiming I am crazy. I AM NOT CRAZY. I saw his bank statement as well and there is three $39.95 charges for talkteks.com, when I do a search for it it is most certainly a porn site. I asked him two weeks ago when the last time he watched porn was, he told me not since the last time I asked him not to. I asked this again last night, he said to me I am not going to say I haven't looked at porn. I said "And you pay for it." He says "Absolutely not!". More lies! He's like the boy who cried wolf, why should I believe anything he says?

    I worked until 7:45 one night a few weeks ago, he got home 5 minutes before me. I asked why he didn't answer my text I sent at 7:30, he said because he had just left Walmart and would see me at home anyway. The receipt said he checked out from Walmart at 6:09. It takes 10 minutes to get home from there. When confronted with this he said "And yes, I was home by 6:30!". Ummm, I told him I got home at 7:45, he had nothing to say to that. I've found numbers on his phone that come up as escort services when I do a google search (this is how he hooked up with the 17 yo). He denies that's what the numbers are.

    Throughout the whole confrontation he tried turning everything around on me, that I have been treating him like a jerk for the past month. Yes, for a reason! Yet, he's so passive aggressive he just pretended that everything was fine and never asked what was wrong. He claimed that he does so much for me, so many favors, I asked like what, he said picking up the kids, doing stuff for the kids. They are HIS kids too!!! Why is that a favor for me? Especially when they are young adults, 20 and 21! He asked me when it is that he is jerking off (besides at night in bed), when does he have time? Please. He's reaching because he knows I can't prove this inquiry. I mention the hand towels, he denies it.

    He claims he has no problem, that this is all me and if I move out it's all because of fabricated, imagined reasons. HELP! I am NOT crazy. Does this sound like other men? Do they deny everything 100%? I am trying to tell myself I know what I know, I know how I feel and that's all that matters. It just hurts so much more to be told all my fears, concerns, issues I've struggled with for the past year are unwarranted! Any suggestions?

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    Let's go back to 21 years together .... Kids 17 yeras old, together there abouts.

    Let's forget porn for the time being, him ignoring your text messages knowing that he's been home , let's also forget you ask for sex but he goes for na...

    Let's go back to when you were 17, 20 or how old you were together, when your children were 4 and 6 and 14 and 16, ..

    You at 40ish want lust.....so does he...

    Ask yourself what happened in that regard from the teenage years, 20's to 40's....

    If he has felt he wanted more? sexually, intimacy, adventure was that there?

    Sex is sex

    I am not putting anyone down I am asking a question, was your sex life throughout those 20 years always exciting, date nights, laughter or did your relationship turn to friends, boring and friends....

    Where he turned to looking and you hate it.

    Only you can tell us the next part of this story to help you answer this.

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    You've got a lot of drama going on it sounds like. CW asks some good questions, I would add to them. You are in a long term committed relationship. you have grown children together but apparently have separated on other occasions. Could you share some of that history? It might bring some perspective to all this.
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    If your children are old enough to leave home you have more options. Like leaving home yourself.
    He is hitting a kind of midlife crisis- he has slipped into porn - and this would have been a distraction at first. But it has slowly dragged him in. Then to Escorts.
    If he is in denial there is not much you can do- he has to acknowledge that there is a problem for him to do anything about it.
    Maybe you could have an extended stay with friends or relatives?
    Living in that environment cant be good for you.

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    There's nothing worse than the feelings of "I'm going crazy?" when a partner won't just be honest with you. I feel for you in this. It brings me to think, why is it that a man who is single, masturbates constantly and hires young women for sex is labeled a TOTAL creeper............ yet when a married man does it, he's not labeled a creeper, but a man who must have some other underlying issues? I don't get it.

    Your husband cheated on you. He had an affair. In addition to that, he paid for it. With that money, he could've planned a VERY nice night out with his wife. He made a choice. Another issue, he is not considering your needs. He makes no effort to satisfy you sexually. The fact that you even still want that level of intimacy with him says wonderful things about you. The fact that he is unwilling to make any effort in it, says alot of not so wonderful things about him. Again, he makes a conscious choice. Masturbation is fun.....people enjoy it...no biggie.... but you live in a home with a man and two young adults and your husband is ejaculating on hand towels and leaving them all crusted up for you to find? He's no fool, he's got at least 25 years experience with cum, he knows it dries up like concrete. He just doesn't care. He's only thinking of himself, what he wants, when he wants it and once again, is giving little to no thought of how it will make you feel. Once again, he is making a conscious choice to SHOW you that he doesn't care. But.........he's comfortable and doesn't want to be uprooted. So he lies.

    Your situation must be incredibly frustrating. I have to wonder, for how many years have you been hanging on to a relationship with a man who gives such little thought to you or how you feel? Have you forgotten what it's like to be truly loved and desired by a man?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    You've got a lot of drama going on it sounds like. CW asks some good questions, I would add to them. You are in a long term committed relationship. you have grown children together but apparently have separated on other occasions. Could you share some of that history? It might bring some perspective to all this.
    Oh boy, well I will have to summarize 20 years. First off we met in high school but didn't date until after graduation. Not sure if I can call it dating though. He couldn't commit even back then but I was 19 and naive. He would call when it was convenient for him, see me when he wanted and then it seemed like all we did was have sex. I started seeing an older man I worked with when I realized I had a big relationship hole to fill that he was not fulfilling for me.

    The beginning of this new relationship I found out I was pregnant with my current boyfriends child. My mother would not let me live at home, single and with child. She married me off to the older man (she arranged the whole wedding), I stopped answering his calls and never told him the child was his. I did tell my then husband that the baby wasn't his, he didn't care. I knew "D" (I will call the current boyfriend this from now on) wouldn't commit and wouldn't want to raise a child. My husband was an alcoholic and abused drugs, the marriage started falling apart 6 months in, I happened to see "D" while I was still married. We began to have an affair, we had sex, I got pregnant again. I felt horrible about it, decided to stop seeing "D" and do the right thing by my marriage. I had our daughter but when she was 2 months old the marriage ended for good. I moved back home with both children. We started seeing each other again but it was the same story, he wanted nothing to do the children, only wanted to see me when he wanted to and I knew I wanted more.

    I let it end again, met another man I was with for eight years and had my youngest son with. When that relationship ended "D" and I hooked up again. Same story, I needed help with three young children but he wanted to come over after they were in bed, we never did anything other than have sex. I ended it again, just stopped answering his calls. Always when our "flings" ended I was the one who did it with no explanation really. So I always thought it was me, never that he had some underlying issue that kept him from having a real relationship. We then resumed the relationship 7 years ago, thinking we were more mature, the kids were older and that this would work. We had the 2 older kids DNA tested for his benefit I guess, I knew they were his. He seemed thrilled (except for blaming me that we were never together before, that I never told him). I knew he was always a bit anti-social, I think he had only been in a car together a half dozen times the first year. I went to his house, he never came to mine. I figured it an idiosynchrity I could put up with. We had so much in common and loved hanging out together, the sex was good too. Then the following year we had sex maybe 5 times the whole entire year. I started thinking it was me. I tortured myself. I brought it up, he claimed he wanted to see how the relationship would go without the sex. I know now that was . We then had more sex but it seemed different, I felt he was doing it more because I asked, not that he wanted to.

    Our daughter by that time started having major behavioral issues, I never received child support from any of the men and worked hard to raise all three by myself. I wanted/needed help so I stuck it out. I found his huge porn collection two months before I moved in with him (our son and daughter had moved out on their own by this time and my youngest was living with his father). He got rid of it all before I moved in. Couldn't get rid of the addiction apparently though. It's hard to believe I was so naive, that I couldn't see all of this sooner. Once I started digging and doing research it all fell into place. I confronted him, he knew there was a huge chance I would leave him (should have left him) and sort of agreed that maybe he was a sex addict. Said he did Rehab when he was younger so he knew the steps and could beat this on his own. After all we'd been through I decided to give him the benefit of the doubt. I wanted him to get professional help but he refused.

    I still found him looking at porn on my computer, installed the spy software, told him about it and it seemed better. But it wasn't and here we are today. Our daughter had a baby in February, her behavior issues never improved and is in now in jail. We get the baby once a week and on every weekend. He resents this as well and I can tell he feels like HE is being punished somehow. This is another thing causing major problems with us. I was also diagnosed with Lupus five years ago and stress is a major flare inducer for me. He knows this but is too selfish apparently to try to limit it for me. Selfish, selfish, selfish. I do so much for everybody without asking anything in return. He tried saying during our confrontation that he does A LOT for me, favors, I asked like what? His answer? All the stuff he does for our kids. WHAT? Why is that a favor for ME? Why do I bear all the responsibility for them? I think he would prefer to sit in the house, play his stupid video game, watch porn, whack off, hook up with underage hookers and not have any one ask anything of him. I still can't believe it took me so long to see his true nature. It's such a shame, I love him so much and care about him but I can't fix him. Since the confrontation and me telling him I was moving out he has choose to pretend like the conversation never happened. Do I just move out or do I bring this up yet again???? Oh the stress!

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    Beautiful Disaster was right in that he acting like a single creeper even though he is in a relationship.
    If you move out will you just give him another try in six months time.
    All I can suggest is when you make your decision- stick to it- don't weaken and take him back- what you have got now is what he has always given you.
    People with intimacy issues will feed off novelty like a vampire. After a while away from you he will again see you as novel and fresh- he will renew interest and chase you again- but you know what will happen next - it wont last and you will be under intense emotional pressure again.
    Do not expose your grandchild to the same dysfunctional future.

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