Thread: why am I being attacked on this site for mixing religion with sex

Originally Posted by housewife

"once again, that is a Crystal clear fact for someone who knows the holly book, it is not opinion.

I suggest you look up the words 'fact' and 'opinion' in the dictionary and take heed of their definitions. Here, I have done it for you:

"Fact:
?noun

1.	something that actually exists; reality; truth: Your fears have no basis in fact.

2.	something known to exist or to have happened: Space travel is now a fact.

3.	a truth known by actual experience or observation; something known to be true: Scientists gather facts about plant growth.

4.	something said to be true or supposed to have happened: The facts given by the witness are highly questionable.

5.	Law. Often, facts. an actual or alleged event or circumstance, as distinguished from its legal effect or consequence.

Opinion:
?noun

1.	a belief or judgement that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty.

2.	a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.

3.	the formal expression of a professional judgement: to ask for a second medical opinion.

4.	Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case.

5.	a judgement or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion.

6.	a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him."

Your belief that something is true is not the same as acknowledging something that is universally proven to be true. A fact can be substantiated by tangible evidence and while you may decide that you need such no substantiations to deem your religious beliefs fact, who are you to assume that nobody else will? By your own admission, you preach your religious beliefs to the women on this forum as 'Crystal clear fact' and what's more, expect them to treat your views as such. This is a major fallacy unless you can back up your your assertions to those women.

Once again, I will stress that you have every right to hold your personal views as you see fit, but you have no right to impose them upon others.

what was that? the bigger butt thing? haven't I made that clear, it is the "hole", after a while the muscles will loosen up and the person will have less control over stopping the poop from leaking out.

Not just that, but we'll start there, shall we? Your statement is incorrect: Anal sex (if performed correctly) will not cause one's muscles to loosen to the extent that anal leakage will occur. As PixieDuzt correctly stated in that thread, "Your anus is a more sophisticated piece of equipment than you think. There are two separate sphincters in the anal canal, the internal and external. The external is the one that becomes slightly stretched during anal play and is the one you can consciously control. The internal sphincter is farther in your colon and controls your bowel movements unconsciously. You are not going to lose control of your internal AND external sphincters and (soil) yourself constantly if you engage in anal sex...You have to hurt yourself HORRIBLY during an anal sex encounter to have leakage."

I was referring to both the inaccurate information you propagated as medical fact (such as the one above) and the more religion-orientated comments you made in which you stated that a woman would burn in 'hellfire' for indulging in anal sex. Again, it is your religious opinion and one that was not sought. The lady in question was not asking if it was 'right or wrong', she was asking for factual information regarding the potential physical effect on her anus. Until you can prove to her or anyone else on this forum that this -sourced singeing will occur, your comment is useless and out-of-place at best and offensive at worst.

Ok, that offended me even more than any other statement , I am scientist, I have a PhD degree in Engineering and I will start working as an Assistant professor this fall, so I strongly belong the scientist group as well as the religious people groups.

I never implied that you don't belong in a scientific discussion, merely that certain religious beliefs of yours do not, due to the fact that they seem to exist at such odds with medical evidence. Furthermore, I fail to see how a PhD in Engineering renders you a qualified authority in matters of sexual health. Please understand that my intention is not to offend you and I would never dream of questioning your grasp in matters of engineering. I am, however questioning your grasp of biology in areas relating to the human reproductive and excretory systems, as they seem distinctly lacking. This brings me nicely to:

Please do, that is why I posted this thread , to make things clear to others, and in the end you are free to take my advice or not.

In addition to the erroneous statement you made in regards to anal sex and subsequent leakage (which I have addressed above) you have also incorrectly told a young woman that she lost her virginity to a finger and went on to state (equally incorrectly) that anything that breaks the hymen is the thing to which a woman loses her virginity. By your absurd logic, I would have lost my virginity to ballet and some of my friends to horse-riding.

You also (again incorrectly) stated that the definition of a virgin is a woman who has an intact hymen. This is the correct definition of a virgin. Pay particular attention to number 1:

"Virgin:
noun

1.	a person who has never had sexual intercourse.

2.	an unmarried girl or woman.

3.	Ecclesiastical. an unmarried, religious woman, esp. a saint.

4.	the Virgin, Mary, the mother of Christ.

5.	Informal. any person who is uninitiated, uninformed, or the like: He's still a virgin as far as hard work is concerned.

6.	a female animal that has never copulated.

7.	an unfertilized insect.

8.	(initial capital letter) Astronomy, Astrology. the constellation or sign of Virgo."

You also stated that Anal sex would: "turn your husband away from the normal sex (vaginal) I read that also in a research that men who experienced anal sex they will continue to prefer it over the vaginal sex (for sure)."

Please provide sources of such 'research' as I have never encountered that particular theory, even though your 'for sure' suffix indicates that you do not regard it as theory, but again as fact. To that end, I must stress that no men, in my personal experience have favoured anal sex particularly over vaginal sex.

Ok, we all give our opinions based on our own thinking, my opinion is mostly based on religion, but sadly other opinions that I read here and there are completely false ,immature, misleading, but I don't see anyone said any word about them. why?

Although nobody particularly enjoys being preached to in a religious sense, I don't think that's really why your posts were so badly-received. I believe it has more to do with the grossly inaccurate statements you made that I have listed above. As for other people who might have proffered heavily-biased or misleading advice, I couldn't tell you why nobody has said a word about their posts: I have only just joined this forum and have not yet encountered them myself, but I assure you that I would be as quick to call them on theirs as I have yours.

I find it amazing that you feel the need to press your religious beliefs on other people. In many religions judgment is left up to god. Humans are not fit to judge and shouldn't do so.

You can practice your beliefs for yourself and in your family that is fine. But it is not ok to push your beliefs on others. They need to find their own way in the world. Even if you think they are sinners (which is fine to think) doesn't mean you should condemn them verbally, or in any public forum. It is not your job to cast judgement. Leave that up to "God." The most beautiful thing about humans is the ability to reason and make decisions on their own. The freedom to find their own course in life. So let them do that and find factual medical information or information from people with real life experience in the issues they know about.

Condemning people will always make you the bad guy.

I'm curious what religion you are??? I'm not here to put you down Housewife, I myself am a very religious person, I've just never heard of a belief before where anal sex between husband and wife and sex during your period are considered a sin. Why is sex during your period a sin-if I read you correctly.???

You are certainly entitled to your own religous views, beliefs and opinions. But you have to accept the fact that not everyone shares your beliefs. So, when someone asks a question about a medical concern that they have, they want actual medical advice or advice from someone who has experience with what they asked about, not your views on religion and the consequences in your religion for the situation or problem.

Originally Posted by sumpter

Catfight!!

Mad girls arguing about anal sex!! Yes!!!

I'm getting a beer - you guys keep arguing.

Hey, would you all mind rubbing this baby oil on you while you fight...

oh, and please take your shirts off.



-just some guy.

You really find debates about anal leakage hot? Heh, good for you, I suppose.

In that case, I'm sure if you 'google it', you'll find yourself some er, nice images to satisfy your particular fetish and occupy your time. That way we can remain on topic, without obnoxious, irrelevant interruptions, mkay?

[quote=Boleyn;12688]You are certainly entitled to your own religous views, beliefs and opinions. But you have to accept the fact that not everyone shares your beliefs. So, when someone asks a question about a medical concern that they have, they want actual medical advice or advice from someone who has experience with what they asked about, not your views on religion and the consequences in your religion for the situation or problem. quote]
Ok, I tried to explain why I did this, but let me explain it more
You believe in the same God I believe in. I even believe in Jesus, and I respect him not less than Mohammad.

The rules that Jesus was given from God 2007 years ago are the same rules that were given to Mohammad 1428 yeas ago.
Meaning that God doesn't tell certain people at a certain time to do things then he bans them from doing them later on

When questioning about medical advice the best answer you can get is from God. He created us, so knows better that any doctor
That is why I was trying to tell you there are no contradictions between religion and medical sciences.
When God told us not have anal sex that is because he knows it is harmful. In addition to that, it is an act of homosexuality even it happens between a husband and a wife.

And when he told us not have intercourse during our monthly period, for the same reason, it is harmful for both women and men
Remember that I don’t have my own believes or my own religion. We all have the same list of {do and don’t}
Back to the “hellfire” point that provoked many readers, God made it clear in his books, if you do this you are going to heaven, if you do that you are going to hellfire.

Well I hope that cleared thing up