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    What does my having red hair have to do with anything? Plus, if you know how to use the internet you would know how to look things up like what catholocism is and why priests are celibate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PixieDuzt View Post
    I was raised catholic so making fun of jesus is one of my favorite pastimes.
    great response. i think catholicism is one of more confused ideaologies. no wonder you feel that way.

    housewife - God doesn't turn off our humanity just because he calls us to something. he calls us to love one another - but he doesn't "disable" our natural tendency to hate our enemies.

    same with sex, or any other desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whilhelm View Post
    great response. i think catholicism is one of more confused ideaologies. no wonder you feel that way.

    housewife - God doesn't turn off our humanity just because he calls us to something. he calls us to love one another - but he doesn't "disable" our natural tendency to hate our enemies.

    same with sex, or any other desire.
    Then ...God calls the wrong people.?
    Doesn't God know better whom to call?
    and if they devote their lives to God, without being distracted by taking care of their spouse.. then molesting young boys is not distracting them at all?

    the more I get involved in this the more confusion I come up with.

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    he doesn't call the wrong people. might be wrong by our standards, but we can't see the other side of the tapestry.

    some feel called but maybe aren't. others become priests for reasons other than a calling.

    i don't think you can put a nice, neat package around pedophelia & understand why anyone would molest a boy.

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    QUESTION: Do you get together and exchange gifts on December 25TH
    Do you spend money and time decorating your house/tree?
    Did you say the Lords prayer at school?
    Do you sing the national Anthem?
    Do you give or get or participate in Easter Dinner?
    Have you ever said or heard a loved one saying, "Thank God? or
    Oh my god........"?
    Do you say things like Holy Sh**, Holy Cra**.......
    Did you ever give or accept a gift at Christmas time?
    Did you ever go to a funeral where the priest/pastor talked about your loved one going to heaven or being at peace with God?

    Do you ever notice that when you type Jesus. Christmas, that your spell check wants to change it to a capital.

    if you answered yes to any of these questions then you have been brought up with religion...

    Do you have people around you that pray for the troops in Iraq or otherwise. Do you watch the news? Did you ever stay at a hotel where there was a bible in the night table?

    Just trying to give you perspective.....If you will take it. It is up to you. We all have free will....................

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    I am not so sure about religion, and there is slight prof of evolution and evidence of dinosours etc which contradicts religion, but I'm no scientist. But please consider the fact that God was supposed to have given us free will. Doesn't that mean we can do what we wish with our lives?

    All I know is the idea of religion is totally confusing to me. And I think a phd in biology would be more appropriate in this topic than engeneering. If you dissagree with someone, leave the topic alone if you're not going to help them. You will not achieve anything if you flame or insult people because they don't agree with your religion. Don't get angry or upset because you think they insult God. God's word isn't fact, it is opinion. As far as I know, there isn't any evidence that he exists, and I've heard terrible rumours about his 'word' or rules.

    In future, try and ignore posts that offend you, and only post if they are helpful to the sender. I've seen people posting who seem really hurt, and comments about religion are most likely not what they want to hear. Respect others, and others will respect you

    And Isult, your post was great dissapointing that it wasn't understood the way it should've been.

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    "And because gay men have anal sex, if a husband and a wife do that they are copying homosexual people.
    so gay people copy normal people not the other way around, except for that anal sex, normal people copy an abnormal act of gay men"

    I apologise, but that is highly offensive. You can't call straight people normal, that implies there is something wrong with homosexuals. There is no such thing as 'normal'.

    Calling a straight person normal is homophobic remark. I am straight myself, but I don't see gay people of any lower status as I. I am disgusted that you could call anal sex abnormal, I am not interested in this act, but how can it be abnormal if so many people do it? Is it wrong for a man to enjoy this 'act'?
    We have one life, we shoulf enjoy it, as life is a remarkable thing. Are you enjoying having started this 'debate'? What was the reason for creating this topic?
    This forum is not about the relevance between religion and sex, it is about sharing what we know or have learnt ABOUT SEX and helping each other with this and their problems. Understand that alot of places in the world are becoming less religious, so there aren't going to be as many people who'd agree with 'God's Rules' as there used to.

    Don't use childish remarks like that priest thing, that is a very nasty thing to say, especially to those who are religious. This makes you a hypocrit, and I thought you were supposed to treat others as you'd wish to be treated? Are you not angering God by getting angry with what he's created? I thought he was supposed to have created us with his love, and loved us all for who we were.

    Please ignore the fact that others do things you think God may not like, I thought free will was given to us because God allowed us the freedom to do whatever we want, mainly because Adam & Eve wanted to be intelligent like God (I don't remember that story well).

    There is nothing wrong with gay people. There is nothing wrong with anal sex. There is nothing wrong with disagreeing with a religious view, it is an opinion, and we all have that right.

    You have the right to believe whatever you want, but respect the fact that not everyone will think you're right. I accept your belief, and I wont start saying you're wrong, but I'm not going to call you right.

    Sex is not about what's right and wrong. It's the bond between two people, usually emotional if the two really love each other. Isn't that what sex is supposed to be about? Trusting the person you love? Sharing your body? Why should God interfeer with your feelings or what you want?

    (I know people are different and this isn't the same with everyone, it's more of an example)


    I'm sorry, I started rambling... happens alot when I'm tired

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post

    I am disgusted that you could call anal sex abnormal,

    I explained why is it is an abnormal act.


    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post

    Don't use childish remarks like that priest thing, that is a very nasty thing to say, especially to those who are religious.

    there could be really some religious priests but child molesters are not .


    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post
    This makes you a hypocrit, and I thought you were supposed to treat others as you'd wish to be treated?

    no, if I do something wrong and disgusting, open your fire on me. I am not hypocrite, I am so honest, and the truth hurts sometimes.


    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post
    I thought free will was given to us because God allowed us the freedom to do whatever we want, mainly because


    we are free to do whatever we want as long as we are not angering God by committing sins,
    I could say I have free will , so I want to rob a bank??

    if we all act on this then the whole world will be a mess and out of control, we have red lines the we shouldn't exceed it, and other than that line practice your free will all you want

    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post
    There is nothing wrong with gay people. There is nothing wrong with anal sex.

    why?
    because we have free will?

    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post
    You have the right to believe whatever you want, but respect the fact that not everyone will think you're right. I accept your belief, and I wont start saying you're wrong, but I'm not going to call you right.


    that is OK
    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post

    Sex is not about what's right and wrong. It's the bond between two people, usually emotional if the two really love each other. Isn't that what sex is supposed to be about?

    any two people?
    that is the line I was talking about.
    Not any 2 people
    Only man and a woman.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post
    Why should God interfeer with your feelings or what you want?


    because he created us and he is the one who set the rules God doesn't interfere with your feelings if you are doing the right things

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelicBunny View Post
    . God's word isn't fact, it is opinion. As far as I know, there isn't any evidence that he exists,
    Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Actually I have nothing to tell you
    I am speechless.

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    Oh my God!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Actually I have nothing to tell you
    I am speechless

    Why? because it is true? I have never found any solid proof myself. I personally believe that religion was created because people were too afraid to believe that life was a complete coincidence - it is a miracle. As well as death, I think people were afraid that when you die, that's it.

    Just becasue it is what YOU believe, doesn't make it true, whether or not it may be, like I said, I'm not saying you're right or wrong, nor am I saying I'm right or wrong. We have different opinions.

    I have had lots of friends who gave up a religion because of the evidence against it. I don't think you understood my post, either. One thing misunderstood, was that I meant the LOVE between two people, does it matter the gender? People don't usually choose to be gay (although bisexuality seems to be fashionable at my old school now... according to my sister) And STD's were not formed BECAUSE of anal sex, I think it was gay people that found out about it... I can't remember but I remember some women in sex ed that told us about it, along with a video. I know, however, that it's not because of anal sex. I think there was research on this.

    Please don't be shocked at people who are believing in more modern or scientific beliefs, I may not be right, you may think I'm an ignorant child, but I know one thing. Don't believe your religion is perfectly true for EVERYONG. It is your OWN opinion, and the religious view you have on this site will not matter unless people are religious and/or ask about it. I am not asking you to give it up, more understand and try to respect others beliefs. I appreciate and admire the fact you feel so strongly about it, and that's good, just don't assume it's the same for everyone.

    They will most likely just flame you. I know, this is an inapropriate thing for them to do, but some people are like that. I think the best thing you can do is avoid preaching and think about what can actually be done, rather than if God is angered. To me, God and his rules don't make sense... but you did say he wasn't perfect I think... can't remember

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