Here Whilhelm: I will debate everything you say......I can tell you without any reservation that my husband would never seek Porn.....I am his Porn and unless you have truly been with a woman who is what I am as a woman, you have no idea in the world what you are talking about......Originally Posted by whilhelm
Maybe this is where one of the problems with understanding exists. It's hard to understand how you differentiate between fantasy and reality where porn is concerned. Although it is just a film or a picture it is in all reality a real person/people doing real things, just like the films or pictures you keep of your family/friends. Aren't they real? Is the pictures or films you may have just a fantasy?
I think I made sense of what point I was trying to make.
OK. easy now. no need to get personal. i know exactly what i'm talking about, you simply disagree.
i don't know your husband so i'll take your word for it. and keep in mind i have never said that all men look at porn so i don't think i've lumped your husband into any category.
i have found that most guys who use porn will use it regardless of what their wives do or don't do. i have also found that when women try to compete, they fail because they are trying to hit a moving target. that's why porn stars, themselves, consume porn. they have immediate access to all types of fantasy situations with all types of women - but they still, reportedly, use porn.
when fantasy becomes reality, we create another fantasy. porn feeds an insatiable desire.
I think in many cases the man doesn't want his wife to act like the women in the porn - anymore than he wants to be a navy seal (excepting of course those who are) - it is just a fantasy. He is making no comparison at all between the movie and his wife.
In the same way a woman might be attracted to the fantasy of a cowboy - but doesn't really want her husband to be out working for days at a time at a low paying dangerous job.
well... could be. i understand that.
i think many men who go after kinky porn would love to experience what they watch in real life. they don't want their wives to work for porn companies, no - but they would love their wives to let them do what porn stars let male porn actors do.
This seems to be the key. I make no claims for other men. For me, movies (of any sort) are fantasies. The people are actors doing, or pretending to do things, but it isn't real.
I found vampire played by Anne Parillaud in "Innocent Blood" very appealing. That doesn't mean that I am attracted to the actress - just to the role she was playing.
Maybe I am unusual. I remember the hero's funeral for John Wayne - as if he had actually done all those things he pretended to do in the movies.
One might claim that the actors in porn films are really having sex - but Steven Segal really knows martial arts - doesn't mean that he is really a heroic Green Beret (or whatever he is playing the current film). If I actually need protection from the bad guys, I want a real soldier, not an actor. If I want to sleep with someone, I want a real person, not an actor.
If the Anna Parillaud of 1992 tried to seduce me, she would fail, I'm not interested in her - just in her fantasy character.
Maybe this is where one of the problems with understanding exists. It's hard to understand how you differentiate between fantasy and reality where porn is concerned. Although it is just a film or a picture it is in all reality a real person/people doing real things, just like the films or pictures you keep of your family/friends. Aren't they real? Is the pictures or films you may have just a fantasy?
I think I made sense of what point I was trying to make.
You made sense.Maybe this is where one of the problems with understanding exists. It's hard to understand how you differentiate between fantasy and reality where porn is concerned. Although it is just a film or a picture it is in all reality a real person/people doing real things, just like the films or pictures you keep of your family/friends. Aren't they real? Is the pictures or films you may have just a fantasy?
I think I made sense of what point I was trying to make.But here may lie a problem. Take Porn out for a minute and let's say for us Women, we look at Brad Pitt and lust after him, fantasise for a minute, what a "hot" body, etc etc.
Be it Porn Stars or Brad Pitt, they are ACTORS, and as such have had to LEARN about their roles. Now the best ACTOR Porn Star, had to start from scratch and learn. But they are, actors. Not real, ficticious, but where Brad Pitt walks away and starts learning another role, they just simply learn another position and crave to get better and better at it so they can be the STAR, so they walk though live forever the PORN Star or want to be. How sad really......
So the woman, that you men are watching are "make believe" yep. Because where they were at the beginning isn't where there are now, they more than likely had emotions and feelings where now it's all about sex and thank god your wife isn't like that, because she'd be telling you to get your own dinner, she's busy rehersing on her own, so get your own... as well.
A fantasy that you WOULD NOT want your wife to be, but here's the other thing correct me if i'm wrong......
You watch it, (an addiction) for most, and you here on many occasions as men have admitted it and said you had to stop. But you watch it, and see things that you haven't tried, much like reading threads here but the difference is, you can't go home and "try it" sometimes because it's too out there and she would wonder where you got that idea from maybe. So it fests on you, and you watch more and get busted, or addicted, or look at that wife as if she's not all that.
Guess therefore, we as women can say:- Welcome to this Forum learn what you will, and take us after...You don't need Porn, we can be your fantacy....
You have got to be kidding.......I am not wearing the clothes of a Porn Queen but as hot as one....The sexual actions.....Why in the name of God do you think I am able to take a man of my husband's age and make him youth.......I have had doctor's talk to me of what I have done and you tell me men do not like this...Maybe you do not like this but I can assure you, men do....The hotter the better...
Corey, thanks for this perspective -- that is so interesting! I never would have thought about it like that.
I am not sure of which porn film you are talking about but I am in the process of reading Insatiable by Gael Greene and in it she talks about her affair with Jamie Gilles and his actions in Porn films..This was already 30 years ago as he is a big star.....They all had sex...In addition I know that Jenna Jameson has written how she does not have sex prior to filining so that she is hot for the films...
I know for a fact of a couple that were filming a Porn Film who were dating each other..This was a porn film..For a week they did not have sex so that they could really get it on before the filming crew. Steven Segal is old stuff and who would want him to start. Sexual intercourse happens in Porn films but I will admit that in some films that are not porn they do not have sex....
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