Ah, a woman who, it would appear, gets it.
Chandlers Wish, I assume that, from your 'biggest mistakes' list, you have a lot of experience with men.
Am I right?
You know the old saying of "assuming" and what it can do
I'm a wise soul and a woman who knows what she wants, hense what she looks for.. I also absorb over the years information and store it, from what i feel is pertinent to me ie) Body Language, and, i have been separated for 10 months, dated 6 or 7 and not one, was capable of at least half, of that list... Interesting... Yet one was capable of all. Now that he went through the art of seduction, physcological, feelings and knowledge of a woman, he is doing the "dance" i think, of the fishing line trick, again interesting.
The way I see it, the 'dating process' is a 'civilized' way of undertaking the 'mating process'. But to be successful with the dating process, doesn't the mating process still have to play out naturally underneath it?
Otherwise, a woman's going to drop a man, and move on to the next one who gets it. Yes, no?
Seduction through the "dating process', is certainly with the "mating process" in mind. Seduction is not all about touching, it is words of power that reel her in.. I think the fish have a lot to say here
So, yes when using that terminology.
But he also has to get all the key incredients of the dating process correct. If he focuses on the mating process, or be it that that is all he has on his mind, then it will be evident and clear and she will move on anyway.
Of course, there are exceptions as I seemed to have observed in my own experience and by noticing and talking to other people's experience.
Doesn't a woman want a man who understands how she 'operates' sexually and also a man who has the potential for being a long-term partner?
In an ideal world that is all she seeks, but not just how she operates, but how she can connect totally with no inhibitions whilst she gives and takes within her sexuality, with the understanding of trust, and long term partnership.
Don't we have two primary drives: mating and survival?
If we go back to the animal thing, whilst there appears to be no foreplay
, once mated, they do then stay with that partner and in the wild, they do bear litter and work towards the survival of that family.
With humans, we date, then mate, then fall deep and the survival is of the maintaining and nurturing, and keeping that "mate", so survival on it's strongest point is to ensure the partner stays as the love endured is deep. That would constitute a fear that would make a woman act on survival.
So in youth, it seems like women go for guys who 'get' her sexuality. Their priority is mating. You know, the bad boys who seem to know exactly how to get women hot and excited?
I am still in youth, if you call over 40 young but it is..... But if i go back to the beginning, pure lust, we want to love, but the initial reaction is lust and desire, we do not see the negatives until after we have dated, then mated, if we are lucky there weren't any and we continue to marriage and life long parternship. If we were blind, then we see as time goes on.
Even today, in dating and mating, regardless of age, we know we should look for the 'nice guys', but we still want a bit of "bad" there and 100% knowledge of sexuality.
But then as they age and start looking for security -- for long-term survival -- they tend to settle, if they can't find a guy who possess both qualities, for a guy who does not understand her sexuality, but is a nice, reliable partner for the long-term?
I am secure. I do not look for security, nor a man to put the garbage out, but of course, i look for a long term partner. No, i disagree if i can not find a guy who possesses passion at this stage of my life, then i won't be settling for security, i will continue seeking to find, hopefully i have.
Together we can create security, but without passion, we will live a boring existance.
I think, your thoughts remain with an older generation before us and how they looked, today we are free spirited and know what we want and also, capable of financial security and can stand on our own two feet emotionally whilst we seek and find.
With the bad boys, they understand the mating process -- though perhaps unconsciously. But the nice partner -- or "nice guy", is a good prospect for a woman to put through HER dating process to ensure her survival.
And I know women have equal financial opportunities today and don't need men for survival in that sense, but perhaps, think of it as 'moral support' or companionship instead. A sort of 'social survival'.
In general terms, yes a woman will look for companship and social survival, but to date, all i see from that is suffering very quickly as they become aware of pain and hurt in such a short time of that relationship as generally the person they choice is emotionally not available, not sexually able to satisfy her needs or non understanding of a woman's needs, and is basically non compatible as she chose to seek a partner through lonliness.
I as i said, for one will not and have not gone down that path, it is a waste of precious time that i could be spending "dating" to find
, i am very capable of fullfilling my own sexual desires in the meantime.
Whereas, the rare guy who understands the natural working of both, mating and surviving, overlaps the dating and the mating process at the same time.
Are you with me here? You know that song by the band Heart,
All I Want to Do is Make Love to You? The singer seems to spell this out loud and clear.
Think you had me at hello... Only joking, it's early in the morning here but i am understanding your thoughts... As in my earliest reply, the woman who understands that she wants a guy who understands the dating and mating process will see that overlap if she sees mating she will hear " all i want to do is to make love to you", which usually actually is all i want to do is.... you because i don't comprehend love, let alone spending quality time pleasuring you, this is for me,me,me...
So I am pretty clear on the 'mating process' here.
No need to be ................well.......... my point was, "what are the key triggers that they desire with men, in dating, that can make them consider mating..... As mating comes after dating, unless the woman of course is not seeking that.
That said, you mentioned all the mistakes guys make, which all seemed to be 'attitudinal errors'.
My question is: assuming a guy has the attitude in place (the opposite of the mistakes you mentioned), what kind of touchstones are crossed between eye contact and sex with such a man?
So much happens in between these two points, correct? Can -- or would you break it down from an experience with a guy who you just couldn't help but sleep with?
Assuming again his intentions are honorable, that being he has dated you, and has found you to be both internally and externally attractive and now wants to win you... There would be more than what i posted as reversals, to win that but he would be right up there as more than a possibility and i would be going home in lust with wanting and desiring, but a small chase is worth the catch, as i think also like a man, play the game a little if you want it to be both sexually and long term.
Doesn't mean i wouldn't want to sleep with him instantly if he was able to push every button correctly, there would be an instant chemistry of both sexual and of the minds.
I found find such a perspective fascinating.
Interesting. Never considered that. But certainly, there still is some kind of dance or 'qualifying' or 'testing' mates involved with animals.
What do you think?
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