Would men be better lovers if pegged once? - Page 3

**rcoreyus** · 07-30-2008, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvHim

First off.... a man and a womans anatomy is different....men don't have orgasms from having plastic dilldos shoved up in there rectum....?

They do. Simulating the prostate will make most men orgasm. The confusion that this makes them gay is one of the reasons homosexual rape is so degrading for men. The victim will often orgasm - and think that somehow means they wanted it. (Some women orgasm when raped - and have the same sort of psychological issues).

ILuvHim · 07-30-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Discostu55

Dude, im totally down for pegging, i'm all for it. And i think it would make men better lovers, they would understand and interpert emotions of a girl better.

LOL.....men dont have the same hormones as women...they will never understand....and nor should they.....pegging a man will not make him a better lover....its about being a giving and caring lover....not whether if he gets it up his butt he will understand....please

ILuvHim · 07-30-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH

See, i am open minded. I wouldn't do it, simple. But that doesn't mean i don't see what others see, feel, it's their decision they are grown up people...

You are entitled not to agree for sure, so as you are debating in sorts: -

In the debating arena we go....

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How do you know? I think people will beg to differ with you hear in their replies, those whom are "in the know"...

Vibrators are "not natural" either and they weren't made for Lesbians.

Are you suggesting the only form of sex you will ever, ever have, has to be purely with hands, feet, fingers, the wang? Nothing else ever?

So are you saying that there should be no Lesbians either? They can not have same sex?

What would you like them to do, remain a Virgin for the rest of their life, have no love or company because you say they can't have same sex?

That's where open mindedness needs to come into the play.

People are people, just because you don't believe in pegging, or would ever do it, that's your choice like i said.

You don't have to agree, nor like it, nor ever do it.

CW

i see you don't get it...thats ok.....i never said anything about lesbians...last time i checked they dont have penis's and they need a strap on to make a woman feel good...from deep penetration.....and far as anatomy of a man.....i could easily ask my BF to come here and asnwer question about male anatomy, since he is a physician.....men don't have orgasms from having dildo rammed up their butts....sorry....but that does not constitute prostate massage.....a woman can easily use her finger and do the same thing for her man and make him feel great.....But when your talking about pegging where your bending over your man and making him feel like a woman..well this is different....he is not going to have an orgasm from this......please ask some gay men about this....preferrable bottoms not tops......botttoms are the ones that receive.....and they will tell you that they are the female of the relationship and that they are not having orgasms from this...

**Fallen1** · 07-30-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ILuvHim

LOL.....men dont have the same hormones as women...they will never understand....and nor should they.....pegging a man will not make him a better lover....its about being a giving and caring lover....not whether if he gets it up his butt he will understand....please

I think the idea behind this thread was if a man were to experience anal (which is called pegging) would he not be more in tune with how it might feel and be more "sympathetic" and understanding with his girlfriend or wife if he wanted to perform anal sex on her - which goes along with your point being a giving and caring lover.

ILuvHim · 07-30-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by rcoreyus

They do. Simulating the prostate will make most men orgasm. The confusion that this makes them gay is one of the reasons homosexual rape is so degrading for men. The victim will often orgasm - and think that somehow means they wanted it. (Some women orgasm when raped - and have the same sort of psychological issues).

please give references from women that have been raped that have had orgasms....

stimulating the prostate yes and stroking him at the same time yes.....using a dildo and ramming him from behind....aahh no....

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Originally Posted by Fallen1

I think the idea behind this thread was if a man were to experience anal (which is called pegging) would he not be more in tune with how it might feel and be more "sympathetic" and understanding with his girlfriend or wife if he wanted to perform anal sex on her - which goes along with your point being a giving and caring lover.

so a man that wants to be pegged, is trying to learn from a woman's perspective what it is like to have anal sex???? highly unlikely.....men that want to be pegged are either gay, bisexual, or have some other type of issue.....but we as women should not be getting off on degrading our men.....or trying to show them what its like to be a woman........i would never want to be a man.....there lives are much more physically demanding then ours and honestly i am not for taking out the trash, fixing cars, climbing roofs, shoveling the snow, and going and seeing what is making those noises in the middle of the night when i hear them......Sorry ladies....men aren't women....if i wanted my man to be a woman i would have been a lesbian.....not some guys that wants to get in touch with his feminine side....

**Fallen1** · 07-30-2008, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ILuvHim

so a man that wants to be pegged, is trying to learn from a woman's perspective what it is like to have anal sex???? highly unlikely.....men that want to be pegged are either gay, bisexual, or have some other type of issue.....but we as women should not be getting off on degrading our men.....or trying to show them what its like to be a woman........i would never want to be a man.....there lives are much more physically demanding then ours and honestly i am not for taking out the trash, fixing cars, climbing roofs, shoveling the snow, and going and seeing what is making those noises in the middle of the night when i hear them......Sorry ladies....men aren't women....if i wanted my man to be a woman i would have been a lesbian.....not some guys that wants to get in touch with his feminine side....

Your still missing the point of THIS thread. That's not what this thread is about. The original poster asked if a man were to be pegged once (for the experience) would it make him more understanding towards his partner.

In my opinion a man receiving anal sex is no different that a woman that receives.

You made a comment in one of your first posts on this thread about it being not natural/not what was intended, we have vagina's men have penises etc. Well if you really want to use the argument of not being natural because we each have our own parts made for a certain task then oral sex is not natural, and a man having anal sex with a woman is also not natural as the penis was made for the vagina.

**rcoreyus** · 07-30-2008, 12:56 PM

Not exactly a primary source but wikipedia:

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Rape of females by males

This is the most common type of rape. From a 2000 research from the Home Office, in England and Wales around 1 in 20 women (4.9%) admitted to have been raped sometime in her life from the age of 16.^[1] A woman's physiological responses to sexual contact are involuntary and in no way imply consent. A woman can become aroused, lubricate, and even orgasm against her will during a rape. ^[2] Furthermore, even if orgasm during rape is intensely physically pleasurable for the victim, it can lead to great stress afterwards if the victim comes to associate physical pleasure with the trauma of rape.^{[citation needed]} Feminists generally prefer to describe male rape of females in terms of power rather than sexuality, much like male-male rape is dissociated from homosexuality (a stronger person asserting their power over a weaker person).^{[citation needed]}

states that somen acn orgasm against their will during rape. (the article references a aritcle from Journal of Clinical Forensic Medicine - but it is not available free). This is WAY outside my field so I have not idea of how valid these references are.

I think for men the main stimulation from a dildo is the prostate. I don't know if most men would need additional stimulation.

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Originally Posted by ILuvHim

please give references from women that have been raped that have had orgasms....

stimulating the prostate yes and stroking him at the same time yes.....using a dildo and ramming him from behind....aahh no....

**Davey** · 07-30-2008, 01:44 PM

I'm a super curious young man lol I started showing interest in this so of course the "am I gay" question arose. But it's just not the same thing, not even close. In my open curios nature I even tried watching some gay porn, but it peaked no interest in me, and in fact was a HUGE turn off, and more funny than anything.

Its easy to see where both views come from, especially since i have no idea what goes through other mens minds. I could be one of the few heteros who like it for all I know. But there's definitly not an automatic connection between pegging and homosexuality

I haven't got into the act of pegging myself but enjoys deeply when my lover puts a few fingers inside of me and simulates thrusting me. We talk about it frequently but have no experience with toys and what not, any input would be nice. I don't think it's just one aspect of it I crave but all of them, depending on the mood I'm in, be it loving and emotional or more dominating and what not. But overall I think the submissive part is what interests me most, be it a rough or gentle engagement, I like for her to be in control.

**CHANDLERS WISH** · 07-30-2008, 05:18 PM

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I LuvHim
i see you don't get it...thats ok.....i never said anything about lesbians...last time i checked they dont have penis's and they need a strap on to make a woman feel good...from deep penetration.....
What don't i get?

Last time you checked, to you ask whether they use a "strap on" to enter the other woman through anal? I bet a lot do.. They don't use it purely for deep penetration in the Virgina.. So I asked you, do you disagree with this as well?

and far as anatomy of a man.....i could easily ask my BF to come here and answer question about male anatomy, since he is a physician.....

Yes but a Physician's point of view is based on facts, much like how he describes "choking you", not on "personal experience as he has never, done this form of act and practical always WINS over theory.

men don't have orgasms from having dildo rammed up their butts....sorry....but that does not constitute prostate massage.....a woman can easily use her finger and do the same thing for her man and make him feel great.....

Sorry, but already the "practical" people that have tried this have stated you are wrong.. They do, what you are referring to is that they can experience it with fingers, sure not disputing that, but any connection at all of a woman placing anything in her mans "butt" surely is the same thing in your conclusion, wrong, they are gay if they want that... You can't say that they can use their finger but nothing fatter than that when it's doing the same thing and is the same thing, an object going into a males rectum.

But when your talking about pegging where your bending over your man and making him feel like a woman..well this is different....

No it's not. It's that your "minds eye" sees a man bent over with an object going into his butt... Perception.

he is not going to have an orgasm from this......please ask some gay men about this....preferable bottoms not tops......bottoms are the ones that receive.....and they will tell you that they are the female of the relationship and that they are not having orgasms from this...

I have Gay friends, what you are saying is the same for Lesbians, some are more "butch" wear trousers, aren't femine hense maybe why they feel the desire to be with a woman, as much as a Gay person may feel feminine and want to be controlled by a more domineering male, and are the feminine person in that relationship.

But, they, do, have, orgasms from it. I asked two last night seeing as you asked that we do enquire.

Personally? If a man wanted to try that with me, off course he has a penis, so he doesn't need a strap on and i was in a long term relationship, i would give it a go to experiement and see how i feel... I 1/2 tried it when i was young and i remember that once i relaxed it actually had a not bad feel, just couldn't handle the pain so stopped.

Life is about trying new things, bit like "choking".

It's all about CHOICE... yeah, yeah, i keep saying it but it's a fact... Their choice to do, yours to not.

And, as Fallen1 said,

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Fallen1
Your still missing the Point. The original poster asked if a man were to be pegged once (for the experience) would it make him more understanding towards his partner.

tmmanus · 07-30-2008, 05:19 PM

ILUVHIM, you make a lot of assertions and assumption that aren’t universally true. As a man who enjoys pegging and whose wife enjoys pegging, I can tell you I’m not gay or want to be gay or think about being gay. I’m also not submissive, in fact my wife and I have played around with some light BDSM and she and I prefer me in the dominant role. Also, when we do pegging I don’t dress like a women, I don’t suck the dildo, my wife doesn’t call me , etc. I know some people may like that stuff and that’s fine for them. But not everyone. Lots of guys who enjoy pegging will agree with this. There is no degradation or intent to degrade involved.

It’s a fact that stimulating the prostate with toys, including strapon-on dildo’s, can cause men to have orgasms, sometimes great orgasms. Lots of guys will attest to this. Not every man, just as some women don’t have g-spot orgasms.

Frankly, along with the great prostate stimulation, I enjoy sharing the experience with my wife, I like “giving” my body to her and allowing her to be the aggressor for a change, as with most men, I’m usually the aggressor in bed, and it is nice to relax and let someone do something to you once in a while- depends on my mood. And yes, I also take out the trash and work around the house and watch sports and all the other manly stuff. I think a man who can’t feel manly without being aggressive has more problem issues than a man who gets pegged.

What my wife likes, as I’ve seen it expressed elsewhere, being in control of my pleasure and making me very excited, she also finds my body attractive (thank god) and enjoys looking at me in a different way that she finds sexy.

Fallen 1 has exactly grasped my point in this post – I found that that being pegging made me a better lover. For example, I’d tried anal sex before with my wife, but after being pegged I was much better at it because I REALLY understood the need to go slow, allow for adjustment, and use lots of lube – and to ask for feedback and look for clues about what she enjoyed and how she felt. So besides having a lot of fun, I think it made me a better, more responsive lover. My position is that men in general might learn something from being penetrated that might make them better lovers. Maybe not every man. And the point is not to allow men to “learn” what anal or vaginal sex is precisely like – it’s to learn how it feels to allow someone to penetrate your body and what it feels like to give a degree of control of your body to someone else in a relationship – many couples talk about an increased feeling of intimacy that can result, that was certainly the case for my wife and I.

The bottom line, if you’re not into it, don’t do it. But if you’re interested, don’t avoid it you’re afraid it’s gay or unmanly. What is “manly” is up to each person or couple, and gay is what two men do with each other – no other way to define it.

07-30-2008, 05:19 PM	#30
tmmanus Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 9	The point of the post and pegging issues ILUVHIM, you make a lot of assertions and assumption that aren’t universally true. As a man who enjoys pegging and whose wife enjoys pegging, I can tell you I’m not gay or want to be gay or think about being gay. I’m also not submissive, in fact my wife and I have played around with some light BDSM and she and I prefer me in the dominant role. Also, when we do pegging I don’t dress like a women, I don’t suck the dildo, my wife doesn’t call me , etc. I know some people may like that stuff and that’s fine for them. But not everyone. Lots of guys who enjoy pegging will agree with this. There is no degradation or intent to degrade involved. It’s a fact that stimulating the prostate with toys, including strapon-on dildo’s, can cause men to have orgasms, sometimes great orgasms. Lots of guys will attest to this. Not every man, just as some women don’t have g-spot orgasms. Frankly, along with the great prostate stimulation, I enjoy sharing the experience with my wife, I like “giving” my body to her and allowing her to be the aggressor for a change, as with most men, I’m usually the aggressor in bed, and it is nice to relax and let someone do something to you once in a while- depends on my mood. And yes, I also take out the trash and work around the house and watch sports and all the other manly stuff. I think a man who can’t feel manly without being aggressive has more problem issues than a man who gets pegged. What my wife likes, as I’ve seen it expressed elsewhere, being in control of my pleasure and making me very excited, she also finds my body attractive (thank god) and enjoys looking at me in a different way that she finds sexy. Fallen 1 has exactly grasped my point in this post – I found that that being pegging made me a better lover. For example, I’d tried anal sex before with my wife, but after being pegged I was much better at it because I REALLY understood the need to go slow, allow for adjustment, and use lots of lube – and to ask for feedback and look for clues about what she enjoyed and how she felt. So besides having a lot of fun, I think it made me a better, more responsive lover. My position is that men in general might learn something from being penetrated that might make them better lovers. Maybe not every man. And the point is not to allow men to “learn” what anal or vaginal sex is precisely like – it’s to learn how it feels to allow someone to penetrate your body and what it feels like to give a degree of control of your body to someone else in a relationship – many couples talk about an increased feeling of intimacy that can result, that was certainly the case for my wife and I. The bottom line, if you’re not into it, don’t do it. But if you’re interested, don’t avoid it you’re afraid it’s gay or unmanly. What is “manly” is up to each person or couple, and gay is what two men do with each other – no other way to define it.

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07-30-2008, 01:44 PM	#28
Davey VIP Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 49	I'm a super curious young man lol I started showing interest in this so of course the "am I gay" question arose. But it's just not the same thing, not even close. In my open curios nature I even tried watching some gay porn, but it peaked no interest in me, and in fact was a HUGE turn off, and more funny than anything. Its easy to see where both views come from, especially since i have no idea what goes through other mens minds. I could be one of the few heteros who like it for all I know. But there's definitly not an automatic connection between pegging and homosexuality I haven't got into the act of pegging myself but enjoys deeply when my lover puts a few fingers inside of me and simulates thrusting me. We talk about it frequently but have no experience with toys and what not, any input would be nice. I don't think it's just one aspect of it I crave but all of them, depending on the mood I'm in, be it loving and emotional or more dominating and what not. But overall I think the submissive part is what interests me most, be it a rough or gentle engagement, I like for her to be in control.