Thread: Oral sex question

Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH

There was someone? PF maybe? Can't recall but definately a post that said that prior to marriage, Virgins are tested for STI/STD?
CW

In the US there are only 2 states and Washington DC (they think they are their own state) that require blood tests before marriage and even these are trying to do away with the practice. Of the three, one tests for rubella only (Montana). The other (Mississippi) tests for syphilis due to the (insert sarcasm) rampant syphilis epidemic in the 1930s & 40s(/sarcasm off) but the results were that less than one percent of the people being tested were found to have syphilis even into the sexually liberated 1970s. The testing was expensive and basically innefective. Some states tried to make HIV testing mandatory but the laws supporting that lasted all of not very long. However, many states made it mandatory to make sure prospective newlyweds be informed of HIV and how it is transmitted and such. I think the confusion stems from the in the beginning testing. The mandatory syphilis testing was a flop, not feesable, expensive and innefective not to mention an infringement on right to privacy. Heck, they cant even pass laws through that require medical care givers be tested for HIV.
How would one know for fact if another person is a virgin or not... really no absolute way to know. I do know that there are a couple of countries that do tests they consider to be absolute and its required of all females to be tested to see if in fact they are virgins when they marry. Weird concept for me but different cultures and all that...

Originally Posted by LadyLane

Why is that not fair? I know someone who was a virgin when she met her husband but had contracted HPV from someone she was dating, but never had sex with. She to this day has no idea how it happened. So she could have given it to her husband without knowing, since she was a virgin.
HPV is transmitted through contact (skin to skin/hand to hand) not blood and body fluids like HIV or syphilis. Not to say you cant get it that way because, well, to fluid bond there has to be some kind of skin to skin contact. Scabies is also considered an STI and you dont have to go anywhere near genitals to transmit it or get it.
Let's say - I'm going to use women as an example - a woman is a virgin, and by that virtue she has decided there is no need to go to the gynecologist for a checkup. Maybe she is a little niave, doesn't know PAP smears are important, she's afraid it will hurt, what have you.
But she's dated some guys and somehow has gotten an asymptomatic STD. Now she's going to get married, has been saving herself for her husband, and they go blissfully along and enjoy each other sexually and she gets pregnant and goes to the gynecologist, who runs a simple blood test and tells her that she's positive for an STD. Now her husband has it as well, and the baby is at risk.
I'm not sure how or why the practice came into being, but it isn't a terrible thing.
The how and why I touched on in my response to CW but I agree, it's not a terrible thing. Actually, as a precaution to neonates, many OB/GYN make it a practice to test for gonorrhea, chlamydia, hep B, strep B, herpes and other various tests during the first prenatal visit. Newborns get drops in their eyes to prevent blindness caused by gohorrhea as an added precaution. Many hospitals test amniotic fluid for strep b during labor as well.
Also, where I was married they tested for the rH factor - two people being married carrying that are rH positive have a hard time having a healthy baby. Two rH negative people as well as rH positive and neg won't have problems. It's just to inform you of a risk.
Again, no longer a requirement and another basic test an OB/GYN does during first trimester screening. I had the whole gambit of tests with all three of my babies three different doctors in two different states. We also do the same types of screenings in our office for the newly expecting. I cant say for sure but it seems to be pretty standard for many OB/GYN to run these tests.

Bottom line though... Two "clean" virgins the chances of STI/STD transmission are none. One of the other of them have to already have it to pass it on. Same with those who arent virgins. Somebody has to have something somewhere for someone else to get it. The risks of these two particular "Clean" virgins having any complications especially from oral sex are slim to none.