Ha... definately would have run from the "bragger". I can relate to that completely.

Have you then stopped to consider that the guy from "Cananda" sub-consciously you miss, therefore, any other guy just can't cut it? So when you are in a relationship with a different guy you just don't feel it totally, (sexually) as you kind of dang miss this little Country Man of yours?

Perhaps that's the secret sweet....

CW

yeah i have considered that... i think about him whenever i am with anyone else... he is always in the back of my head... sweetest man i have ever known. whenever someone else makes me feel like i think of how he never has.

but it is so hard living away from each other constantly. I have never been in the same city with him for longer than 2 weeks uninterrupted. I've known him for 5 years. I'm crazy about him i guess. but cant be alone... can't move to the boonies

maybe that is the root of the problem... it's hard though cause my job has taught me a life of luxury... and he is a country boy. I have learned in the past that when men feel like they don't deserve you or that you could do better they end up screwing things up with their insecurity. I feel like we are both waiting until we can have our love just right. He working hard as am I thinking of how we can find time for each other.


oh man... i hope one of us strikes oil and we can run away to tahiti.... lol


You might have busted me CW

Clara,

There are too many issues going on that are causing you to stay away from sex. The more i read the more i get into your head.

Most women if not all dont know why they do the things they do.

Myself personally i have dedicated my life to understanding women, social dynamics and the art of courtship.

The age old question of What women want is the wrong question the question men have to ask is What do women respond to.

Warning: I may get a little abstract and speak in metaphors because it will offer you a chance to come to your own conclusions with me just giving broad sense of reality. If this makes no sense then it will later.

Your problems are much more universal then you think. Like CW said your beauty is a double edge sword as you can already contest to through life experiences. However, know that there is always a knight to a control any sword.


So your typically attracted to men in power... Which is understandable because women of beauty typically feel like a little girl deep down inside and want a sense of security that a man in power can give you.

I bet that you put on this very strong facade when someone hurts you but deep down it really bothers you and you will think about it on the entire car ride home.

Correct me if I'm wrong but what you feel inside is a feeling of loneliness. That your on a journey with no map and no sense of direction, and you just want someone to come along and take your hand and lead you to where you've been heading your entire life.

Since thousands of years men have always been survival creates and women have always been replication creatures.

A man kills the Buck and feeds the family and female gives birth and takes care of the family. Men can't give birth and a female typically does not have the body chemistry to hunt a wild animal.

Even though society has grown and evolved you've been programmed through millions of years of evolution to seek a man that will take care of you.

All females want survival characteristics in men and men want replication value in women IE. Beauty. Thats why women are so Caty toward other beautiful women... They are your competition.

But have you dated Portuguese. You have to many problems. haha j/k.

Tell me about it. The more beautiful the female typically the more she rely's on her beauty to get through life. It's not her fault its just her reality. Men give her whatever she wants because they want to be with her. It takes a real strong lady to know she is beautiful and not rely on it.

Its just as rear as finding a man that is confident, intellectual, funny and charming while simultaneously keeping you on your edge through the entire courtship.

This is exactly what i mean... You made my point for me.

There are too many things to talk about. It takes days for me to convince and solve the problems my female friends in my life have. So im sure that your once you solve one issue another UNEXPECTED issue will arise.

Back to the sex issue. Sheep don't reveal their fears. Chop water carry wood. merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream.

It's your job to find the middle grounds.

Good luck

Hope this helps

Live laugh and love

No you weren't wrong. Men who typically broadcast there success are very shallow. Wont treat you the way you want.

They will just see you as an addition to show of to there family. Refer to what i said about women and there beauty.

This is horrible thinking. Do yourself a favor and do a search on goggle for Limiting belief or limiting mindset.

Hope this helps

Live laugh and love

Never heard of the ready battery but I'm assuming from your comparison that they last very long. Am i wrong.

I believe your missing a crucial part in your theory.

Typically the partner that is less fortunate is the female. Most if not all successful females would want a man that is equal or superior to her in success. If not she will eventually lead the relationship to a break up.

As far as the the relationships with the same amount success. They are not at the level they want to be at. Typically both are willing to compromise the relationship in an effort to advance in there career's.

Just my thought.

Live laugh and love

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Originally Posted by CHANDLERS WISH Even half the successfully married Actors male and female have partners that aren't on their level financially but they seem to last like an every ready battery, where as the two beautiful creates with same success struggle, crash and burn eventually. CW

Never heard of the ready battery but I'm assuming from your comparison that they last very long. Am i wrong.

Assumption correct. (ever ready battery)... never heard of a un-ready battery or a ready battery, (couldn't help myself)...

I believe your missing a crucial part in your theory.

Typically the partner that is less fortunate is the female. Most if not all successful females would want a man that is equal or superior to her in success. If not she will eventually lead the relationship to a break up.

Not at all... Reece Witherspoon was more famous than her husband, he couldn't handle it. They were both "beautiful people" the attraction for both was looks, both were "cute" .. and that lead to a breakup.

Oprah Winfrey has been with Stedman for 20 years, he is just a person, yet whilst there is trouble now, they have been together for 20 years.

The point I was making, was if an Actor gets together with another Actor and they are both "beautiful people", chances are it doesn't last long. It will be interesting with Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie, other than the fact that apart from being sensual and sexual, which (she is losing it there), she knows that the kids holds the key for him and so she continues in this direction...

However, if an Actor has enough of trying (look at Jennifer Aston) they then end up looking for the non-Actor, non-Model because what they are desperately seeking is love and they feel it is more attainable in a "normal" person than someone of their own like/league...

This threader's one time memory, one time love, the man she dreams about constantly is a "Farm Boy" a normal rouge who she has stated, is also intelligent but her career does not allow them to be together for instance, which is sad. Not to 'sabotage the thread'.LLL


As far as the the relationships with the same amount of success. They are not at the level they want to be at. Typically both are willing to compromise the relationship in an effort to advance in there career's.

Pretty much covered that above... I think you are referring to those whom get together, in order to "further" their careers mutually. That's a false relationship one built on media only, half the time they are gay anyway, or in it for the short term through selfishness and obsession of getting their name out there further.

Then there's the "couch"... which i never ventured...That has to make a woman feel like a .......... but a necessity (not sure about in today's world) however, it has been suggested that it still exists, in order to further one's career in Acting.

I know at least 3 Celebrities in South Australia that through Alcohol have admitted what they had to do to be a TV presenter for instance. One, actually had a mental breakdown...

Beautiful women are treated as meat... When all they want to be treated as is themselves....


Just my thought.

Live laugh and love

Just on that note:- Pertaining to successful females. Define success. It's is not always about money rather Power.

I have been a "successful business woman" all my life, from 24 upwards climbing ladders. If you want to call "success" running businesses, or management.

Point being not once did i ever want someone more powerful, or equally as powerful as myself.

Men are intimidated by beautiful powerful women, or just powerful women... Successful men, in general terms brag about their power/money... They use a woman like changing their cars over, when it's only a year old... And, women feel like sex objects and hand bags.

What was and still is priority on my list is "intelligence"... Not equal or superior to my success.

Grounded, passionate about life, and know where they are going.

With all millionairres, i can count how many women they have "actually had"... and so glad I didn't go down that path back then, i would possibly have felt used, abused.. It's hard.

Much prefer the knowledge that the relationships (most) that I had were great, fun, intelectual, sometimes a tad spiritual but grounded.

CW

Let me first just say that I do really look forward to reading the new posts on this thread. I get home and check it hoping someone has dropped another piece of precious advice or insight. I thank you all, yet again, for participating.

I believe my feelings on the situation are a lot more grounded and understood now after all of this discussion. It is a lot of reading but very helpful. A lot of knowledge an experience from all types of life has been brought in and referenced here. Great.

By the way CW please feel free to refer to me as Clara in the future.

I was grabbing a lemonade today with the "successful" man I have been seeing most recently. "the manager", and he point blank asked me whether I prefer dating rich guys or poor guys. I found it a difficult question to answer. However, my reply was something along the lines of:

" I prefer to date successful guys because they have their life in control usually and can appreciate the same fine wines and foods and culture that I have grown to know and love through my traveling and experiences with modeling. They know how to enjoy life and the worries of money are never a problem for them.... they are more free to do as they wish."

However!

"I also prefer to date poor men because I feel able to associate with them better, I feel like we would have the same appreciation for little things in life that successful guys are prone to overlook. They tend to be more grounded with how hard life can be for some people. Also they are detached from the luxury living scene of paying 200 dollars for a t-shirt and able to scoff at how much money some people are willing to waste on just about everything. I feel like it is easier to find a soul in a man who has had to struggle a bit in life, or at least the ability to savour life's little blessings"


But poor men can also fu*k things up with me, and have in the past. I dated a tattoo artist once that was so talented and an amazing artist but hardly able to pay the bills in his low rent apartment. I really cared for him and never let him buy me much.. or if he asked where we wanted to eat I would pick somewhere kinda inexpensive because I knew what his budget was...not much. I even ended up paying his cellphone bill one month because he couldn't and had his phone shut off.
I didn't care. I really liked him; it didn't matter to me and I had plenty of money to take care of myself or both of us if need be.

But guess what? He ed up and cheated on me. Why? Well he was a scumbag tattoo artist to begin with and I think morality isn't the highest amongst his friends who are in and out of jail.... gangsters etc. But MOSTLY I think it was because I was more successful than him, probably smarter, five inches taller, and gorgeous so he felt like he didn't deserve me or something. I think I made him feel like less of a man, and insecure. Too bad. He really hurt me. It's ok though I suppose, because I really don't know why I was dating him in the first place. Maybe I enjoyed the rush of dating such a bad boy.
He calls me at least three times a month every year since to beg for me back and say what a up he was now that he is finally more successful with his work and making good money and has his head clear.


Classic case of a poor guy f*cking up something that is too good for him. I will be reluctant to ever date one again because of it. I would rather date someone that is in control of their business and their life an a little ahead of the game from now on. I don't need any more men who feel insecure around me when all I am trying to do is make them happy (and myself also as a result).


More later have to get ready for a concert tonight!!

oxoxo