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    Amaranthine, you are entitled to have your own opinions towards the book because everyone sees the book differently.

    This was Meyers first book.. She wrote it from a dream she had. I'm sure the first book of ANY writer isn't going to be the greatest, but to be honest, i loved Twilight. It was different. Something that i've never read before.

    Bella didn't go into Forks assuming she would be hit on by every guy, having them think she was beautiful [mostly because she was a girl who didn't grow up in that town and been watched go through here "awkward years"], no. She didn't expect that she would get friends who were "popular" when in actuality, they weren't really "popular". She didn't expect to fall in love with a vampire.

    Yeah, vampires don't sparkle and vampires don't try to blend in with humans but in Stephenies book, they did. They were different vampires, they fed on animals, not humans. They were outside the norm of the other vampires. They don't look to be in their 20s, they are all between 17 and 20 when they "became".

    I'm not going to sit here and defend S.M and Twilight because like i said, you are entitled to your opinion about Twilight, everyone is. I liked it, i know that much. I liked all the books. I couldn't tell you exactly what it was that attached me to the books, maybe it was the teen romance because i am a hopeless romantic, i don't know. I enjoyed it. I enjoy books that aren't like the rest, that are unique in their own way and that's what S.M created, or at least i thought so.
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    I had heard Meyer wrote it about a dream, which could explain the lack of good patch-ups in the plot, etc. since I assume she didn't want to stray from her dream too much. The result just left more to be desired in my opinion.

    I also grant that writing a book is not easy, however, for a woman who says she graduated with a degree in English, I expect more. More character development, more plot development, better sentence structure, etc. I would understand if she was just an average Jane writing her fanfic about a dream, but she's not. She's supposed to be a woman with a BA in English writing a fanfic about a dream. Perhaps I expect too much from those of us who graduate college.

    Bella went in like any other pessimistic new girl would, thinking she'd have trouble getting friends, etc. But she didn't. Everyone opened and was nice to her, and she just turned her nose up to them as if she already new they weren't popular. The way she acts is not typical, and had it occurred in real life, never would have happened that way. I've moved several times, during junior high and high school. I know what it's like to be the new girl and have to meet new people. It is nothing like what Meyer portrays in Bella. Not even a little. If you're the new girl, and people show interest in you, you're golden. But Bella just pushes them off, and they want to be with her anyway.
    Real high school kids would've been like, "okay, fff this chick", and left her.
    The level of unrealistic interaction makes it difficult for me to see how the book is popular.

    I understand that the "vampires" in Meyer's book are "different", but that's what makes them a new creation of hers, and NOT vampires. You can only stray so far from a given outline before what you create is something completely different and not just a variation anymore. Vampires are an element of horror, not an everyday ingredient.
    If this is what she was trying to execute, she did so poorly, and I would suggest to her that she should go back, research vampires for a change, and rewrite the book. It just feels way too half-assed to me. No author should settle for that.
    What I mean by them "looking in their twenties" is that even a 17 year old can say he's 20 and get away with it. He might look a tad young, and people might be surprised, but it's doable. The simple fact that some of them were teenagers when they were turned is not a good reason to explain why they go to school. "They look like teens" is not a good enough reason to say they do high school over and over again. Those of us who graduated can probably all vouch for the fact that we couldn't be PAID to do high school more than once, let alone do it to "fit in".

    You think it attracted you because you like romances?
    This is interesting to me... because I didn't find Twilight romantic at all. I didn't see any chemistry between Bella and Edward. I saw no reason for them to be together. I didn't think there was any hint of romance or love in the story... it just felt awkward to me, forced.
    What did you find romantic about it?

    I certainly won't try to address Twilight's "uniqueness", as I'm sure it's clear at this point that I consider it about as unique as a teenage-written fanfic... which doesn't say much.
    But what did you find unique about it?

    The idea behind Twilight isn't all that awful, but it was executed horribly, in my opinion. I feel it could've been written better, the holes could've been filled better, the characters could've been developed more, the plot could've been deeper and not just strewn about like confetti screaming "look at me!"
    Honestly, had this been written by Ann Rice, Stephen King, , anyone BUT Meyer I feel they could have done a better execution of this idea. That's just me.
    What do you think?
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    I thought the movie was very accurate and close to the book - boring and tasteless.
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    I liked the movie but I did not think it was an adequate representation of the book..I didn't feel like they developed the relationship between Edward and Bella very well. I mean look at the Lord of the Rings movies..those are based off long books and the movies are almost as good..I just think they could have done a much better job..
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    Well sounds like I stuck my foot in my mouth with that comment. Lord of the Rings-bad example-dually noted.

    I feel the opposite about their relationship in the movie-It felt like they were just stuck together in the movie-he saves her they talk like 3 or 4 times and then they are suddenly together. I guess I just interpreted the book differently. I enjoyed it-it was an easy read and entertaining romance.
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    The good thing about books is that your mind can wonder and fill in missing pieces as you wish them to be filled. The way you just described the romance in the movie is exactly how I would describe it in the book, so I consider the movie an accurate portrayal.
    Interpreting a book is different, though. It's been debated by literary experts whether or not Bella's character is purposefully left blank and devoid of actual traits (a "shell" character) to make it easier for readers to put themselves in for her instead, or if Meyer is really that clueless about character development.
    You might have just read the book and tried to imagine the romance in your head, and it ended up being nothing like it when the movie came out. Happens all the time.

    If you went back and read it again, without imagining the romance in your head, you might see what I mean...
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    I do see your point. You only read the first book? There are 4 books in this series. I have to say I don't see why you think Edward is controlling??

    Also any thoughts on Jacobs character? The werewolves, which she ends up calling shape shifters?

    How many weeks was this a best seller?
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    Ooooo I'm so addicted to the Twilight Saga!!!!!!!!! and I got my Mum into it too lol
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    In my opinion the book was better than the movie and in hardly anyway were they similar. Yeah, the same concept and such, a few things here and there but it wasn't the true story, i dunno.

    Maybe it was because i was a little girl obsessed with finding love and/or a boyfriend and in place, the book became my love. I read the books before everything got "OMG TWILIGHT OMG!!" ya know? I can't read the same story by a different author ever single time i pick up a book. It was different. I dunno how to explain to you HOW it was different because it just was to me.. It wasn't something that i just read the other day, ya know? I go from book to book with a quickness, mostly teen stuff because I'm still in that stage, but whatever, ya know? We all have our own preferences.

    Have you read her other book The Host? It's a "Sci-Fi" for people who aren't interested in Sci-Fi.

    Other not so vampire "vampire" books that i enjoyed were the A House of Night Novel: Marked series by P.C Cast + Kristin Cast and the Blue Bloods series by De La Cruz.

    To Fitness: I understood your point of the whole Lord of the Rings comment. It doesn't matter if LOTR was an incredible book and movie [not so much in my eyes, never got into it =/] and it wasn't a good comparison [lol] they actually made it as the book, ya know? And everyone loved it.

    I dunnnnnnooo. I just know i loved the books, the movie was enough for me to like and that is that, ya know?
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    Debating is healthy and welcomed on this site.

    Forcing an opinion onto others, of a set belief and stating that a person is "wrong" is against the rules of this site.

    Keep the debating in understanding that each person has their "own" Opinion.

    On a personal Note, everything in life is a learning curb for us as individuals, I doubt anyone's first book is "perfect".. I sell Real Estate, excellent marketer and sales person, suck at spelling and grammer.. I am not perfect.

    Kind of clever in my opinion, made people's minds expand, to a place they had not ventured or thought of before.

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    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!
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