Forum:

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast
Results 11 to 20 of 26

Thread: Fairy Tale Redoux

  1. #11
    Banned from WH Array
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    1,279

    Default

    Become a member to remove this ad.
    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    Iffy.
    Ariel gives up her voice (the ability to express oneself and ones needs) in order to get legs to attract a man she has never met and only seen once. He is attracted to what? Her complete inabiltity to function in society? Silence? Looks? It certainly isn't her intelligence or wit (she has no voice and is unknown to him, trying to fit into an alien world). In the original story she ceases to exist becoming sea foam. Disney takes her from her family and loved ones to live separated from her true self.

    Princess Jasmine has some spunk and in later stories is apparently a black belt but it gives an impression of cultural freedom that absolutely does/did not exist in the world she comes from.

    Pocahontas's story isn't quite what might be thought. Did you know that colonial America had so many people "going native" that entire villages emptied? They passed laws with a penalty of death for joining tribes in some areas. Pocahontas had sad end disconnected from her people and trying to live in an alien culture.

    The Story of Belle, teaches what? That abusive, self focused men can be transformed into loving princes? If a woman is good enough - ah yeah, right.
    Well, if you're so inclined to see the glass as half empty, I guess there really isn't anyone who could say anything that could help.

    These females also possess admirable traits and in the movies are potrayed in a positive light. Whether or not the viewer wishes to take note of that is up to them.

  2. #12
    Veteran Member (800+ posts & member 1 year+) Array Isabellacat's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    SF Bay Area
    Posts
    1,377

    Default

    In Sleeping Beauty I would make Prince Philip be the one who's sleeping in the scary castle and have Princess Aurora be the one who wakes him up. I mean guys sleep more anyways and plus it would be a cooler story.

  3. #13
    WH Head Moderator Array WildChild's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western USA
    Posts
    14,515
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    I start this thread to have some fun coming up with new twists on the stories. I'm sorry I allowed it to get so far way from that.

    Most of these stories are about women who sacrifice themselves or are caught up in other people machinations and their only way out seems to be to be rescued and then to marry the rescuer whom they don't even know. I don't see much of a positive message in that. For someone derisive of the fantasy wedding as a goal in life and of some women's excessive concern with looks and such, I'm surprised to find support for something I see as feeding that type of thinking. But we all have different perspectives.
    I used to discuss with my kids what the charactures could have done differently to alter their situation for themselves.



    Quote Originally Posted by WildChild View Post
    Many fairy tales were originally teaching stories that were twisted to teach other ideas later on. I thought it might be fun to recreate some popular fairy tales into something more empowering. What would you do to give them a better message? Why is there always a wicked older woman instead of a helpful one? Why does the girl always have to be rescued? Why can't she save herself? Maybe we could do this like some other story threads where everyone adds their bit?
    We can only learn to love by loving. - Iris Mudoch, British writer

  4. #14
    WH Head Moderator Array WildChild's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western USA
    Posts
    14,515
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Isabellacat View Post
    In Sleeping Beauty I would make Prince Philip be the one who's sleeping in the scary castle and have Princess Aurora be the one who wakes him up. I mean guys sleep more anyways and plus it would be a cooler story.

    LOL, I agree. How could she prick her finger on a spindle anyway? My spindle doesn't have anything you could get pricked by. Oh I know who or what does... Never mind, not going there.
    We can only learn to love by loving. - Iris Mudoch, British writer

  5. #15
    Veteran Member (800+ posts & member 1 year+) Array Isabellacat's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2009
    Location
    SF Bay Area
    Posts
    1,377

    Default

    OMG I trip off that too.... True how could she hurt herself with the spindle?? I never liked that part when I was little.

  6. #16
    Administrator Array Little's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2007
    Location
    support[at]womens-health[dot]com
    Posts
    3,212

    Default

    On a positive note, has anybody looked into the Princess and the Frog? I know it's not out yet, but I was looking at a storybook/stickerbook for it at work today.
    It's about a girl whose family is black in 1920's New Orleans. I don't know in what way she is a "princess," but apparently her family has worked very hard to make a restaurant successful. She apparently turns into a frog when she kisses a frog prince, rather than being rewarded for randomly falling in love with a frog
    Looks promising!
    made one wish for a permanent kiss that would echo through these bones like arsenic

    Women are female (adj,) but not females (n.) We aren't dogs.


    Register|Contact Admin|Email Admin

  7. #17
    WH Head Moderator Array WildChild's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western USA
    Posts
    14,515
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    LOL, its a twist at least. I like Shrek because Fiona gets to be completely herself and he gets to be completely himself, they don't worry about what others think and find what works best for them. His rescuing her works because it forces them each to really "see" the other.

    But back to Sleeping Beauty. She gets drugged into sleeping for 100 yrs and then marries the first man who makes the effort to get to her. What can we do with her and the Priince? (NOT what Ann Rule did) If she's drugged she really can't get herself out of it... Maybe her parents need to be more proactive instead of throwing out all the spindles and destroying the weaving industry. Is this a diamond for a hymen story? Or is it really more directed toward men-if you fight through the obsticles you win the girl? Maybe Beauty needs to get out on her own, get some education and start a business?
    We can only learn to love by loving. - Iris Mudoch, British writer

  8. #18
    March 2008 "Poster of the Month" Array
    Join Date
    Sep 2007
    Posts
    2,804

    Default

    Don't get me started on Twilight either.

  9. #19
    WH Head Moderator Array WildChild's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Western USA
    Posts
    14,515
    Blog Entries
    6

    Default

    Never seen or read it. Maybe I should ask for a review? Or would I be happier just skipping it?
    We can only learn to love by loving. - Iris Mudoch, British writer

  10. #20
    TEAM ADMIN Array CHANDLERS WISH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    19,963
    Blog Entries
    13

    Default

    Dear me,

    Well all I can add is I want to be eaten by a Wolf, lol so which story was that from?

    hehe.

    CW
    Do we not realise that in order to find a soul
    It doesn't happen over night
    if truth were to be told.

    Like everything in life that's hard to achieve
    you must believe!

Page 2 of 3 FirstFirst 123 LastLast

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

Beauty & Style | Fitness & Nutrition | Family & Relationships | Sex & Sexual Health | Physical & Mental Health | Girl Talk | Forum Home
Home | Health Library | Contact | Terms Of Service
© Womens-Health.com 2011+