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    You need the bands for pullups; the one with a door anchor cost me about $15. That's actually in the first workout. And if you already have weights, you don't need to get more. The ones you have should work fine.

    This was made for atheletes but I can assure you that I'm still nowhere near that category! I still use the couch arm for pushups often and I rarely leave the floor during Plyometrics. I also pause a lot (which is why I give myself more than an hour to finish, hehe). This one person on MFP started P90X at almost 300 pounds and he says he was really out of shape ... These days he's trying to do pushups and pullups with a weighted vest and is about to finish his second round.

    I remember taking fit test ... I failed miserably! Just try to not to compare yourself to the people in the video. Even atheletes can find them impossible to keep up with at first. And you do get better in time if you keep showing up to every workout.

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    Oh okay, I guess I got worried because they made it sound like if you're not an athlete or even close to it then you shouldn't do it. It says if you can't do all of the fit test you shouldn't do it so I was like ohh great I just spent all this money for nothing. So if I get just 1 resistence band with a door thing I should be okay? Because I already have 1 I just have to find where I put the door anchor... but I know on the p90x thing it shows like 4-5 different bands & I only have 1....

    I'm excited to start back on this diet & doing that on monday, i wasn't sure if I should start back on the soy/whey a week before doing p90x or just start em both at the same time. I dont want to gain, but I know they say sometimes starting workouts like that makes you gain at first.. so we'll see

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    Meh, I couldn't even do the 30-Day-Shred when I started, lol. Yoga and stretching was all I did beforehand. And the qualifiers are there to be sure you have the discipline to work out every day for 90 days and have experience with meal planning. They also claim to have you ripped so if you don't meet their criteria, you shouldn't expect to be ripped in 90 days, hehe.

    Do you have your 1800 planned out? I promise you wont be sorry if you eat them all. Just ignore the scale and take photos and measurements.

    Muscle burns fat and for every pound of muscle you activate, your body burns an extra 50 calories of fat per day. You're not building muscle ... you already have some that are dormant. Strength training activates them which makes them toned and store water (hence the possible weight gain). But those muscles are also burning extra fat too which makes you smaller regardless of what the scale says. So if you do weigh yourself, keep all of that in mind; they are good changes.

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    I havent planned the 1800 calories out yet, it's gonna be tough knowing that I had a hard time with 1200 but I'm sure with all this working out i'll feel more hungry. Plus I stopped taking those diet pills from the weight loss doctor, it just cost too much & I want to pay off some debt first. I think from stopping the pills is why I strayed so much from the diet though, it was tough coming off em. So now any weight loss will be from this diet & p90x only.

    I was trying to figure out if I'm suposed to repeat phase I a few times before moving on to phase II, just sounds like phase II & III are more for after you've lost the weight you wanted to? Unless I'm understanding it wrong.

    I also have no idea how to figure out my body fat % but I was using a few websites to figure it out. It seemed that a couple of the sites had major differences like 10 points diff, but then I found 2 sites that gave me the same body fat % and same BMI so I'm going with that one lol

    I'm about to do the fit test soon

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    oh yeah... i can't decide between the lean & classic.... said lean is for women who like more cardio... n then he said he suggest the first 90 days of lean, then do 90 days of classic, then if ur really extreme do 90 days of doubles

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerzeebabie04 View Post
    oh yeah... i can't decide between the lean & classic.... said lean is for women who like more cardio... n then he said he suggest the first 90 days of lean, then do 90 days of classic, then if ur really extreme do 90 days of doubles
    I started off with Lean, then tried Classic. Lean burns less calories. And Plyo X burns more calories than Cardio X. So you can always have a trial week of both.

    You can extend the Phase 1 meal plan considering you have quite a bit of weight to drop. You might even try cycling it because it's not good to be on a high protein diet for longer than 16 weeks. Basically, spend 3 days at 30/50/20, then 1 day at 40/40/20 so your body doesn't become carb sensetive.

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    Oh, if you want to repeat it, you might just want to do the complete rotation instead of doing Phase 1 over and over again. It's really the meals that they're talking about when it comes to "shredding fat". The workouts only change for Monday and Wednesday between the first 2 phases. Then on the third phase it takes the workouts from phase 1 and alternates it with the workouts in phase 2.

    Doubles and Classic is the same for phase 1. Doubles just adds extra cardio in Phase 2 and 3 but I keep debating on whether or not to drop the extra cardio, hehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghanie View Post
    ... You might even try cycling it because it's not good to be on a high protein diet for longer than 16 weeks. Basically, spend 3 days at 30/50/20, then 1 day at 40/40/20 so your body doesn't become carb sensetive.
    By the way, I just started cycling carbs and today is my first day back on 40/40/20 ... added a half muffin with tofutti to my breakfast shake and yum! I also plan to have oatmeal with some protein powder for my morning snack.

    To make it easy, I'm cycling to 40/40/20 on Mondays and Fridays since I have extra cardio on those days anyway and therefore could use the extra carbs.

    I woke up extra early to start my workout because I have a memorial day bbq at noon so I forgot to weigh in ... but I was 142.1 as of yestarday morning, hehe.

    So ... 12 pounds in 10 weeks!

    Darn, I have recovery week coming up again after this week. Just when I started to enjoy the new workouts! ... they really come by fast!

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    wow you're doing great. I'm not really sure how many calories I'm suposed to be eatting, I did the level I,II, III test in the p90x book. According to that I should be eatting about 3000 calories a day, which I don't think I'll ever be able to do & still lose weight. When I enter my weight n all that into MFP it says 1200 calories, so I think I'm going to do that & then just put in how many calories I burn with exercise & see how much more calories it gives me.

    I still dont have a heart rate monitor so I have no idea how many calories I burned today. It was the first day of P90X, I did the chest & back & the ab ripper. I definitely suck at pushups & I was doing the pullups using the band. I didn't really feel tooo much in my arms, probably because I can't do the pushups very well, not sure why I didn't feel the pullups, maybe I need a different level band. I was able to do most of the ab work, not 25 like they can do but I did at least 15-20 of most of the exercises. I don't feel much in my abs right now either, maybe when I wake up? I'm going to walmart after work in the morning to get some heavier weights & to buy some pull resistance bands. I think I'm still going to go to the gym & do some arm work some days & other days maybe do some cardio. I don't want to exercise too much, but I feel that while I'm still attempting to be able to do the workouts in p90x, I should still get in a good workout that I can actually feel too. (probably wont stay as long at the gym as I normally would)

    Also I really don't know how to eat all these calories, I'm having trouble staying within the 50/30/20. I think because soy milk still has carbs in it, I'm getting more carbs then I'd like & having a hard time finding foods with more protein in it. I guess I'll have to start eatting egg whites or tuna for snacks? How is the egg or rice protein powder.. do they have carbs in them?

    I've been making my shakes with soy milk, whey powder, fruit, and I have some high fiber cereal I put about 1/4 cup in. It's really good with the cereal I didn't think I'd like it that way but it's sooo good.

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    When you do your calculation, use your goal weight, not your current weight. At least that's what Sandy keeps saying. If you're setting your net at 1200, then set your workouts to 600 calories until you HRM comes in the mail. How much did you eat today?

    For Ab Ripper X, I pause to get in all 25 reps and I do feel it! I also do pushups on the arm couch so I could do a lot of reps until my arms were burning. If you can easily do 20 reps for the pullups, then you need heavier bands; otherwise you need to do more reps, hehe.

    You can use extra whey protein if it tastes ok; soy is the only protein you need to limit to around 30g. Egg and rice powder has 4 carbs per 24g of protein and the best lean protein you'll find are chicken, shrimp, tuna, and egg beaters or egg whites.

    Yeah, the cereal tastes great in those shakes, hehe. The big sources for lean protein are chicken breast or tenderoins, shrimp, tuna, egg beaters, and egg whites. I used to have chicken wraps twice a day but now I have chicken with green beans for one snack and cottage cheese with egg protein for the other snack.

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